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Fri 01/04/08


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 07:14 AM - Van's order by Email? (Bert Murillo)
     2. 07:16 AM - One antena two radios how (Bert Murillo)
     3. 07:24 AM - Re: Van's order by Email? (Tim Bryan)
     4. 07:24 AM - Re: Van's order by Email? (Dale Ensing)
     5. 07:39 AM - Re: Van's order by Email? (Ron Lee)
     6. 07:49 AM - Re: One antena two radios how (Jeff Dowling)
     7. 08:11 AM - Re: Van's order by Email? (wgill10@comcast.net)
     8. 08:57 AM - Re: One antena two radios how (RV6 Flyer)
     9. 09:14 AM - Re: One antena two radios how (RV6 Flyer)
    10. 09:16 AM - Re: One antena two radios how (Dale Walter)
    11. 10:47 AM - Re: One antena two radios how (Larry Pardue)
    12. 04:33 PM - Re: One antena two radios how (Tailgummer@aol.com)
    13. 05:34 PM - Re: One antena two radios how (Doug Gray)
    14. 06:00 PM - Re: One antena two radios how (Larry Pardue)
    15. 07:05 PM - Re: One antena two radios how (Carl Froehlich)
    16. 08:17 PM - Heat boxes for RV-4 (halbenjamin@optonline.net)
    17. 10:27 PM - Re: Van's order by Email? (mike humphrey)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:14:11 AM PST US
    From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
    Subject: Van's order by Email?
    Hello: Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but I cannot find how to get the page where one can order any item, from Van's thru the Internet. Does Van's has this or not? Thanks for the info.. Bert Rv6a do not archive


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    Time: 07:16:40 AM PST US
    From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
    Subject: One antena two radios how
    Hi: I posted a message asking what is the best to have two radios, one antena.. I got one reply, with good info. I would like to hear some other comments. Any one out there has two radios, and one antena, what is the best way to do this. If so, Pros and cons... thanks bertrv6a do not archive


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    Time: 07:24:36 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Van's order by Email?
    Bert, Try this: http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/webstore.cgi Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bert Murillo > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:10 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Van's order by Email? > > > Hello: > > Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but I cannot find how to > get the page where one can order any item, from Van's thru the > Internet. > > Does Van's has this or not? > > Thanks for the info.. > > Bert Rv6a > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 07:24:36 AM PST US
    From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Van's order by Email?
    Bert, try this http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/webstore.cgi > Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but I cannot find how to > get the page where one can order any item, from Van's thru the > Internet. > > Does Van's has this or not? > > Thanks for the info.. > > Bert Rv6a > > do not archive


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    Time: 07:39:32 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: Van's order by Email?
    http://vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/webstore.cgi > > Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but I cannot find how to > get the page where one can order any item, from Van's thru the > Internet. > > Does Van's has this or not? > > Thanks for the info.. > > Bert Rv6a > > do not archive > > > > >


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    Time: 07:49:54 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: One antena two radios how
    There was an article on this in Kitplanes a few years ago where they made a push and twist setup to disable one radio at a time. I remember them saying you cant share an antenna. Shemp in dire need of a paint job On 1/4/08, Bert Murillo <bertrv6@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi: > > I posted a message asking what is the best to have two radios, one > antena.. > > I got one reply, with good info. I would like to hear some other > comments. Any one out there has two radios, and one antena, what is the > best way to do this. If so, > Pros and cons... > > thanks > > bertrv6a > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:11:24 AM PST US
    From: wgill10@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Van's order by Email?
    Bert, If you're in a hurry, order by phone and ask for 3-day ground shipping (or faster). They usually ship the same day and I often get the item delivered to the central US in just two days. Orders by internet are at least 1.5 weeks! Bill -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com> > > Hello: > > Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but I cannot find how to > get the page where one can order any item, from Van's thru the > Internet. > > Does Van's has this or not? > > Thanks for the info.. > > Bert Rv6a > > do not archive > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Bert,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>If you're in a hurry, order by phone and ask for 3-day ground shipping (or faster). They usually ship the same day and I often get the item delivered to the central US in just two days. Orders by internet are at least 1.5 weeks!&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Bill</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:57:36 AM PST US
    From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: One antena two radios how
    http://www.romeolima.com/RV8/IdeasProducts.htm#PRODUCT:%20%20King%20Antenna %20Adapter Not sure which one but something like: http://www.sinctech.com/catalog/family.aspx?id=104 Very few people go this route as it is not cost effective. A 2nd antenna i s less money. My suggestion would be to to your LOCAL avionics shop and HIRE them for hel p. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,073 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA _________________________________________________________________ Watch =93Cause Effect,=94 a show about real people making a real difference .


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    Time: 09:14:12 AM PST US
    From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: One antena two radios how
    http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/w1gan-duplexer.pdf The HAM 2 Meter band is FM just above the aviation AM band. Stuff that wor ks with their 2 meter band should work on our aviation frequencies. Be care ful as some ham equipment call diplexers a duplexer when splitting 2 M and 70 cm signals. Diplexers that are used with repeaters SHOULD work. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,073 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA _________________________________________________________________ Watch =93Cause Effect,=94 a show about real people making a real difference .


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    Time: 09:16:35 AM PST US
    From: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
    Subject: One antena two radios how
    I agree with Gary. Plus: Using one antenna for 2 radios negates the full redundancy benefit. If antenna, switch or final lead fails, both radios are useless. Why pay for a 2nd radio and not get full redundancy??? Please answer this question. Dale _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: One antena two radios how http://www.romeolima.com/RV8/IdeasProducts.htm#PRODUCT:%20%20King%20Antenna% 20Adapter Not sure which one but something like: http://www.sinctech.com/catalog/family.aspx?id=104 Very few people go this route as it is not cost effective. A 2nd antenna is less money. My suggestion would be to to your LOCAL avionics shop and HIRE them for help. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,073 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA _____ Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more


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    Time: 10:47:30 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
    Subject: Re: One antena two radios how
    In amateur radio the term diplexer refers to a device that allows one antenna to be used on two different bands, not a very difficult task. For repeater use with one antenna and one band a duplexer is used. A duplexer is tuned to use only one transmit frequency and one receive frequency. It has to do that because it uses filters to eliminate almost all of the transmit frequency from the receiver and to eliminate almost all other frequencies from the transmitter. It is critically tuned for those two frequencies only and will not work on any other frequencies. Oh, and duplexers for VHF are huge, think around the size of a kitchen trash can, and they are also very heavy, typically using several large metal cylinders. Larry Pardue On Jan 4, 2008, at 10:07 AM, RV6 Flyer wrote: > http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/w1gan-duplexer.pdf > > The HAM 2 Meter band is FM just above the aviation AM band. Stuff > that works with their 2 meter band should work on our aviation > frequencies. Be careful as some ham equipment call diplexers a > duplexer when splitting 2 M and 70 cm signals. Diplexers that are > used with repeaters SHOULD work. > > Gary A. Sobek > "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, > 2,073 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA > > > Watch Cause Effect, a show about real people making a real > difference.


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    Time: 04:33:38 PM PST US
    From: Tailgummer@aol.com
    Subject: Re: One antena two radios how
    In a message dated 1/4/2008 9:00:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rv6_flyer@hotmail.com writes: http://www.romeolima.com/RV8/IdeasProducts.htm#PRODUCT:%20%20King%20Antenna% 20 Adapter Not sure which one but something like: http://www.sinctech.com/catalog/family.aspx?id=104 Very few people go this route as it is not cost effective. A 2nd antenna i s less money. My suggestion would be to to your LOCAL avionics shop and HIRE them for hel p. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,073 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA ____________________________________ Watch =9CCause Effect,=9D a show about real people making a real difference. _Learn more_ (mip://01da7708/hw) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) I use the Icom equivalent for my HANDHELD (3rd radio...back-up com). This required no special skills to install, and serves its purpose quite elegant ly. I found it VERY cost effective and serves me well. John D'Onofrio (_Tailgummer@aol.com_ (mailto:Tailgummer@aol.com) ) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489


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    Time: 05:34:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: One antena two radios how
    From: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
    Mark Sletton previously posted a link to a very good solution, here it is again. http://www.aerocraftparts.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=SA-010&Category=0e9a8a4d-66d7-4057-a46d-e9f3baaa4e5a BTW isn't adding a second antenna only slightly better (less risky to the radio) than wiring the two antenna feedlines together? Coupling from one antenna transmitting into the second is very likely to torch the receiver in the second. Doug Gray (another HAM...)


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    Time: 06:00:53 PM PST US
    From: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
    Subject: Re: One antena two radios how
    On Jan 4, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Doug Gray wrote: > > BTW isn't adding a second antenna only slightly better (less risky to > the radio) than wiring the two antenna feedlines together? Coupling > from one antenna transmitting into the second is very likely to torch > the receiver in the second. > The two antenna solution has been used very successfully for many decades. Good to get the best separation possible. Larry Pardue


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    Time: 07:05:16 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
    Subject: One antena two radios how
    Close antennas (within reason), one transmitting while the other is receiving, will degrade the receiving system while the other is transmitting, but there is not sufficient energy transfer to do damage. With sufficient spacing you can have the pilot talking on one radio while the copilot is talking to someone else on the second radio. Some audio panels on the market support this set up (Garmin GMA 340 for example). There is a Lancair at the airpark with both husband and wife retired airline pilots. They frequently operate this way to split up the communication load during IFR. This capability is not possible with the single antenna shared between two radios system. If you only plan on talking and receiving on one radio at a time, wide spacing is not a critical factor. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (375 hrs) RV-10 (wings) KV4U -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doug Gray Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: One antena two radios how Mark Sletton previously posted a link to a very good solution, here it is again. http://www.aerocraftparts.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=SA-010&Category=0e9a8a4d-66 d7-4057-a46d-e9f3baaa4e5a BTW isn't adding a second antenna only slightly better (less risky to the radio) than wiring the two antenna feedlines together? Coupling from one antenna transmitting into the second is very likely to torch the receiver in the second. Doug Gray (another HAM...)


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    Time: 08:17:31 PM PST US
    From: halbenjamin@optonline.net
    Subject: Heat boxes for RV-4
    Hello All, I'm looking for a heat box for an RV-4 with air mixing capability (cool air, heated, or mixed) that allows for dumping of unused heated air. Looking at the ads online, I see heat boxes that will dump unused hot air, and heat boxes that can mix warm with cool air, but I can't tell if any of these will do both. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks, Hal Benjamin - RV-4 Long Island, NY Finish kit & Spending money like a drunken sailor


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    Time: 10:27:17 PM PST US
    From: "mike humphrey" <mike109g6@insideconnect.net>
    Subject: Re: Van's order by Email?
    Bert, on the web store page there is a search box. Put Van's part # in, and it should come up as a single unit with price, and add to cart box, just like other items. I just ordered a new slider piece that way, so I know that it works. Mike H 9A/8A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:37 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's order by Email? > > http://vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/webstore.cgi > > >> >> Maybe I am not looking in the right place, but I cannot find how to >> get the page where one can order any item, from Van's thru the >> Internet. >> >> Does Van's has this or not? >> >> Thanks for the info.. >> >> Bert Rv6a >> >> do not archive >> >> >> >> > > >




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