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     1. 03:59 AM - Re: Black Magic flies (Dana Overall)
     2. 06:10 AM - Re: was IFR GPS requirements, now flt test paperwork (glen matejcek)
     3. 06:11 AM - Re: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements (glen matejcek)
     4. 06:18 AM - Garmin GPS III plus database (Tim Bryan)
     5. 06:36 AM - Re: IFR GPS requirements (Mike Robertson)
     6. 06:39 AM - Controlling defrost fans (Ralph E. Capen)
     7. 07:10 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Ron Lee)
     8. 07:15 AM - Re: IFR GPS requirements (Dan Brown)
     9. 07:17 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Dale Ensing)
    10. 07:20 AM - Re: Garmin GPS III plus database (Tim Bryan)
    11. 07:22 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Tim Bryan)
    12. 07:23 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Ted French)
    13. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements (Bret Smith)
    14. 08:36 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
    15. 08:53 AM - Re: Black Magic flies (McFarland, Randy)
    16. 09:26 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Knicholas2@aol.com)
    17. 10:33 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (John Jessen)
    18. 10:55 AM - Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives?  ()
    19. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives?  (Ron Lee)
    20. 12:21 PM - Painting Your RV? (Andy Gold)
    21. 01:57 PM - First flight (Wheeler North)
    22. 02:35 PM - fuel injection for your 912 or 914 (jason Parker)
    23. 03:20 PM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Carl Bell)
    24. 04:52 PM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Dale Ensing)
    25. 08:04 PM - New shipping instructions for nose gear mod (Bobby Hester)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Black Magic flies | 
      
      
      Thanks gang, yes it did take a little longer to finish than I expected at f
      irst but dang, I just couldn't keep those "life experiences" from getting i
      n the way of completion................you get the car, I get the truck....
      ...you get the furniture, I get my tools................you get the house, 
      I GET THE AIRPLANE!!!
      
      Anyway:-), it was worth waiting for this past weekend.  Since I posted the 
      link on Doug's site about the first flights, I'll not go into it on this si
      te, other than to say..........WOOOOO HOOOOO!!  
      
      Would it be bad if I said I watched an edited video of the entire weekend l
      ast night just before going to bed.........................................
      
      Mark, I may be down in Columbia next Friday, Sat., Sun, I'll let you know.
      
      Dana Overall 
      
      Richmond, KY i39
      
      RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" 
      Flying
      O 360 A1A, C/S C2YR-1BF/F7666A4
      
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      Subject: Re: RV-List: Black Magic flies
      
      
      In a message dated 01/16/2008 6:19:46 AM Central Standard Time, bo124rs@hot
      mail.com writes:
      Great weekend.
      >>>
      
      After all this time, I figgered it'd be a cold day in.........Kentucky (!) 
      when you got that thing in the air!  Way to freakin' GO!  Big time congrats
       to you, Kahuna and all else involved for launching another fine example of
       the breed into the atmosphere!!
      
      Best wishes, be careful, and enjoy Phase Won of your journey!
      
      >From The PossumWorks in TN
      Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo", Columbia, TN
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: was IFR GPS requirements, now flt test paperwork | 
      
      
      Rick-
      
      > If anyone is interested I can provide a copy of my two 
      >tests.
      
      I'd love to see that!  Plz send to my email below, or if need be I'll send
      my snail mail address.  Thanks!!!
      
      glen matejcek
      aerobubba@earthlink.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements | 
      
      
      Hi Bret-
      
      RE:  ... aircraft with "composite props" could not be 
      certified for IFR flights. 
      
      2 of the 3 prop driven airliners I've flown in the past had composite
      props.  I suspect someone has gotten something crossed up somewhere.
      
      glen matejcek
      aerobubba@earthlink.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Garmin GPS III plus database | 
      
      I have a friend who is here in Texas from Canada with his airplane.  His GPS
      III Plus appears to only have Canadian data.  Does anyone know how to switch
      this Gps over to US?  Is there a download somewhere that would help with
      this?  I can't find anything in the manual.
      
      Tim
      
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| Subject:  | IFR GPS requirements | 
      
      We have been flying with a Whirlwind 151.  We got ours very early on in the
       development.  We may have even been one of the first ten to get the 151 bl
      ades.  It has been extremely smooth, vibration wise, and works well.  
      
      Mike Robertson
      
      From: carlbell@gforcecable.comTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV-List
      : IFR GPS requirementsDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:07:32 -0500
      
      
      Mike,
      
      I=92m curious, what composite prop are you using.  I=92m looking for an alt
      ernative to a metal prop that may run smoother.  Thx CJ
      
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
      nics.com] On Behalf Of Mike RobertsonSent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:3
      1 PMTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV-List: IFR GPS requirements
      
      Bret, That is absolutely false.  I fly behind a composite prop myself and t
      he RV-9A that I fly is fully IFR ready. Mike RobertsonDas Fed 
      
      
      Subject: RE: RV-List: IFR GPS requirementsDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:21:08 -
      0500From: cjensen@dts9000.comTo: rv-list@matronics.com
      
      Well, someone read it so it must be true....or not.  How does stupid stuff 
      like that get started and how does it seem to take on a life of its own?  I
      t's a scary world we live in!
      
      
      Chuck Jensen 
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
      nics.com]On Behalf Of Bret Smith
      
      I know this is a little drift to the thread...but since Mike has entered th
      e fray I would like his input on another recent declaration.  A fellow pilo
      t just told me this past week that he had read in a popular aero-related ma
      gazine that aircraft with "composite props" could not be certified for IFR 
      flights.  He could not remember which magazine.  Can anyone confirm this?
      
      
      Bret SmithRV-9A "Finishing"Blue Ridge, GAwww.FlightInnovations.com  t=_bl
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| Subject:  | Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of the instrument
      panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the support bulkhead
      parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs that point aft
      that support the top of the instrument panel in three places.
      
      I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in a rheostat
      to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple on-off switch
      would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed?
      
      Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a regular basis
      
      Thanks,
      Ralph
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      A rheostat probably has the same numbers of wires but you can turn it.
      Hardly seems harder and it does offer flexibility.
      
      Ron Lee
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
      <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:35 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      >
      > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of 
      > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the 
      > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs 
      > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three 
      > places.
      >
      > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put 
      > in a rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple 
      > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a 
      > half-speed?
      >
      > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a 
      > regular basis
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Ralph
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IFR GPS requirements | 
      
      
      Quoting Bret Smith <smithhb@tds.net>:
      
      > read in a popular aero-related magazine that aircraft with  
      > "composite props" could not be certified for IFR flights.  He could  
      > not remember
      
      FWIW, I recently flew a Diamond DA-40 with an MT (composite) prop that  
      was IFR certified.
      
      -- 
      Dan Brown, KE6MKS, dan@familybrown.org
      "Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
      more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring."
        -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      Ralph, I have a pair of 4" fans mounted in the top skin forward of the 
      instrument panel to blow on W/S of my 6A slider. No need for speed control. 
      Maybe the larger fans turn lower RPM. They are similar to cooling fans in a 
      computer tower.
      BTW I use them in the summer to pull hot air from behind the panel and help 
      cool the avionics.
      Dale
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
      <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:35 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      >
      > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of 
      > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the 
      > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs 
      > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three 
      > places.
      >
      > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put 
      > in a rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple 
      > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a 
      > half-speed?
      >
      > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a 
      > regular basis
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Ralph
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Garmin GPS III plus database | 
      
      As luck would have it I found the answer within a few minutes after posting
      this.  I looked for over an hour before that.  It appears I need the
      MapSource software by garmin.  I only have MapSend software for the
      lowrance, so my friend will need to purchase the software.
      
      Thanks anyway, Sorry for the off topic post
      
      Tim
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:15 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Garmin GPS III plus database
      
      
      I have a friend who is here in Texas from Canada with his airplane.  His GPS
      III Plus appears to only have Canadian data.  Does anyone know how to switch
      this Gps over to US?  Is there a download somewhere that would help with
      this?  I can't find anything in the manual.
      
      Tim
      
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| Subject:  | Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      I doubt that anything more than an on off switch would be needed.  I
      installed a fan in mine but have not needed it.  Enough heat develops under
      the panel that just having the opening in there has been sufficient.  I park
      in a hangar however so if you need to seriously defrost, than a simple on/
      off switch would be all you would need.
      My opinion of course.
      Tim
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
      > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
      > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:36 AM
      > To: rv-list; Aeroelectric-list
      > Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      > 
      > 
      > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of
      > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the
      > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs
      > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three
      > places.
      > 
      > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put
      > in a rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple
      > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-
      > speed?
      > 
      > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a
      > regular basis
      > 
      > Thanks,
      > Ralph
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      I have the same fans, but I just let them run all the time. No switch...
      
      Do Not Archive
      
      Ted French C-FXCS 
      RV-10  Flying
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
      Sent: January 17, 2008 6:36 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      
      I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of the instrument
      panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the support bulkhead
      parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs that point aft
      that support the top of the instrument panel in three places.
      
      I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in a rheostat
      to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple on-off switch
      would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed?
      
      Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a regular basis
      
      Thanks,
      Ralph
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements | 
      
      Glen, apparently the reference is in  FAR part 23.867.  It says as follows:
      
      Federal Aviation Regulation
      
      Part 23 AIRWORTHINESS STANDARDS: NORMAL, UTILITY, ACROBATIC, AND COMMUTER
      CATEGORY AIRPLANES
      Subpart D--Design and Construction    
      Electrical Bonding and Lightning Protection
      
      Sec. 23.867
      
      [Electrical bonding and protection against lightning and static
      electricity.]
      
      (a) The airplane must be protected against catastrophic effects from
      lightning.
      (b) For metallic components, compliance with paragraph (a) of this section
      may be shown by--
      (1) Bonding the components properly to the airframe; or
      (2) Designing the components so that a strike will not endanger the
      airplane.
      (c) For non-metallic components, compliance with paragraph (a) of this
      section may be shown by--
      (1) Designing the components to minimize the effect of a strike; or
      (2) Incorporating acceptable means of diverting the resulting electrical
      current so as not to endanger the airplane.
      
      Far part 23.1 states the following:
      
             
      Federal Aviation Regulation
      
      Part 23 AIRWORTHINESS STANDARDS: NORMAL, UTILITY, ACROBATIC, AND COMMUTER
      CATEGORY AIRPLANES
             
      Subpart A--General             
      
      Sec. 23.1
      
      Applicability.
      
      [(a) This Part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type
      certificates, and changes to those certificates, for airplanes in the
      normal, utility, acrobatic and commuter categories.]
      (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change
      must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this Part.
      
      Soo...I would not think this applied to experimentals with the special
      airworthiness category.
      
      
      Bret Smith
      RV-9A N16BL
      Blue Ridge, Ga
      www.FlightInnovations.com
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of glen matejcek
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:09 AM
      Subject: RV-List: RE: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements
      
      
      Hi Bret-
      
      RE:  ... aircraft with "composite props" could not be certified for IFR
      flights.
      
      2 of the 3 prop driven airliners I've flown in the past had composite props.
      I suspect someone has gotten something crossed up somewhere.
      
      glen matejcek
      aerobubba@earthlink.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      RALPH, WE HAVE HAD FANS IN THE LAST 3 RV'S WITH JUST THE ON/OFF SWITCH. U  
      SURE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM.
      DOUG PRESTON
      N372RV
      
      
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| Subject:  | Black Magic flies | 
      
      Dana, been watching your posts for the 4 years, 4 months, and 14 days of
      my 7A process. Damn well worth every hour, wasn't it???  Enjoy your
      great little time machine. Hope to see/fly with you someday even tho
      your east coast and I'm west coast.  I like the black look! When funds
      are available mine will be almost all black as well.
      
      Fly safe and see you someday.
      
      Randy
      
      N821RL 7A 140hrs
      
      San Jose, Ca
      
      
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      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:56 AM
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Black Magic flies
      
      
      Thanks gang, yes it did take a little longer to finish than I expected
      at first but dang, I just couldn't keep those "life experiences" from
      getting in the way of completion................you get the car, I get
      the truck.......you get the furniture, I get my tools................you
      get the house, I GET THE AIRPLANE!!!
      
      Anyway:-), it was worth waiting for this past weekend.  Since I posted
      the link on Doug's site about the first flights, I'll not go into it on
      this site, other than to say..........WOOOOO HOOOOO!!  
      
      Would it be bad if I said I watched an edited video of the entire
      weekend last night just before going to
      bed.........................................
      
      Mark, I may be down in Columbia next Friday, Sat., Sun, I'll let you
      know.
      
      Dana Overall 
      Richmond, KY i39 
      RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Flying
      O 360 A1A, C/S C2YR-1BF/F7666A4 
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_010.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_065.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com 
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      From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Black Magic flies
      
      In a message dated 01/16/2008 6:19:46 AM Central Standard Time,
      bo124rs@hotmail.com writes:
      
      	Great weekend.
      
      >>> 
      
      
      After all this time, I figgered it'd be a cold day in.........Kentucky
      (!) when you got that thing in the air!  Way to freakin' GO!  Big time
      congrats to you, Kahuna and all else involved for launching another fine
      example of the breed into the atmosphere!!
      
      
      Best wishes, be careful, and enjoy Phase Won of your journey!
      
      
      >From The PossumWorks in TN
      
      Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo", Columbia, TN
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      I have several computer cooling fans in my RV9A on the wind screen.  I  only 
      have on/off,  they are very quiet and also serve as a window  defroster.  I 
      see no need for a rheostat.
      
      Kim Nicholas
      
      
      In a message dated 1/17/2008 6:40:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
      recapen@earthlink.net writes:
      
      I am  wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in 
      a  rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple  
      on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a  half-speed?
      
      
      **************Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape.     
      http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
      
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| Subject:  | Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      Wouldn't the variable speed or rheostat be a good source for noise problems
      in the old headset?  Best just use an on/off switch.  Those fans are so
      quiet, who cares if they run full tilt, but they should be able to be turned
      off in case amps need to be shed, small amount of amps, though.  
      
      John Jessen
      
      do not archive
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:24 AM
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      I have several computer cooling fans in my RV9A on the wind screen.  I only
      have on/off,  they are very quiet and also serve as a window defroster.  I
      see no need for a rheostat.
      
      Kim Nicholas
      
      In a message dated 1/17/2008 6:40:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
      recapen@earthlink.net writes:
      
      I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in
      a rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple
      on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed?
      
      
        _____  
      
      Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape
      <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>  in
      the new year. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives?  | 
      
      How about GM make "ON STAR" and airbags for planes? Ha-ha
         
        You could call and ask for cheapest av gas or good hotel on a cross country.
      Or give a heads up to the family of your ETA. No doubt in the next decade or two
      we'll have this for GA. However with gas costing what it does, I wounder if
      GA will exist.
      
             
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| Subject:  | Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives?  | 
      
      George, I also am not optimistic about GA.  The real indicator that GA
      is under pressure is that I am cutting my flying.  
      
      Just get a Spot and the problem is solved.
      
      Ron Lee
      
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| Subject:  | Painting Your RV? | 
      
      Painting Your RV?  
      Here are some new titles, (and a couple old ones) that will help you 
      design and do the job
      
      How To Paint Your Own Aircraft    by Ron Alexander
      
      An easy to follow book on aircraft painting techniques by Sport-air 
      Workshops and EAA. This book discusses materials, equipment, 
      preparation, spraying, detailing, and safety concerns. It is simple but 
      clearly written, and should be sufficient to prepare you for the task of 
      painting a new aircraft. For more information see: 
      www.actechbooks.com/paint_your_own_airplane.htm
      $19.95    book or e-Book      take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      Automotive Paint Handbook   by John Pfanstiehl
      
      Yes, I know - there is a car on the cover.  But it is still the absolute 
      best book we've found covering the high tech polyurethane and 2 part 
      epoxy paints and primers that are commonly used on aircraft such as 
      Imron, ChromaSystem, and VariPrime  The use of modern HVLP guns are 
      completely covered along with compressors, filters and health protection 
      devices...  It covers preparing your work, spraying, resolving problems, 
      making repairs, custom techniques, cleaning, paint inspection, etc.  For 
      more information see: www.actechbooks.com/automotive_paint_handbook.htm
      $18.95        take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      Aircraft Painting 101- DVD   by Sam James
      
      A Pixar production it is not.  But for 2 hours of excellent and detailed 
      information specifically on painting an RV (an RV-4) with Dupont 
      Veriprime and Chromabase systems this is it. Sam James takes you through 
      the complete process of working an RV fuel tank, wheel pant, and 
      detailed design on a horizontal stabilizer.
      $25.95     take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      How to Pinstripe
      
      All you need to know about mastering the form of pinstriping.  We have 
      all seen some amazing and unique paint schemes on RVs and other custom 
      aircraft.  If you too would consider such a challenge, here's how its 
      done.  For more information see: 
      www.actechbooks.com/how_to_pinstripe.htm
      $25.95     take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      How To Airbrush     by JoAnn Bortles
      
      All you need to know about mastering the techniques of airbrushing.  We 
      have all seen some amazing and unique paint schemes on RVs and other 
      custom aircraft.  If you too would consider such a challenge, here's how 
      its done.  Completely illustrated with step by step color photography 
      throughout.   For more information see: 
      www.actechbooks.com/airbrush_painting_techniques.htm
      $24.95      take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      Aircraft Noseart   by Jeffery Ethell
      
      Looking for some unique ideas with your newly discovered pinstriping and 
      airbrush skills?  From pin-ups, to shark mouths, to Popeye, this book is 
      full of high quality color photos to inspire any military orientated 
      custom paint scheme.  For more information see: 
      www.actechbooks.com/aircraft_nose_art.htm
      $24.95  (hard cover)    take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      also new:
      Health For Pilots   by Paul Gahlinger MD
      
      A Complete guide to FAA medical certification and self care. This book 
      explains every detail of the examination; how to prepare for it, why it 
      is required, and how to attain certification in spite of disability or 
      illness. Far more than a guide to passing the test, this book provides 
      advice on subjects from altitude hypoxia, avoiding jet lag, drug 
      screening programs, to flying after scuba diving. For more information 
      see: www.actechbooks.com/health_for_pilots.htm  
      $24.95     take 10% off today*
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -------
      
      
      take 10% off today*
      Through 1/25/08 when you get these or anything else we will deduct 10% 
      from your entire order.  To get the discount just write special till 
      1-25-08 in the coupon box on the checkout page.  The discount will be 
      automatically applied.  Or, if you prefer to order by phone, just tell 
      us you want the discount when you call.
      
      
      Thank you for your business,
      Andy Gold
      Builder's Bookstore
      800 780-4115
      www.buildersbooks.com
      
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      Hmmm,
      
      Three comments,
      
      1. Congrats Doug, cool plane, now comes the work... Paying for fuel...
      
      2. It is amazing to the see the RPM stability on the plane with a CS vs the
      one without...
      
      3. Snug formation on a first flight isn't all that different from having two
      or more souls on board.  Something to think about at least.
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | fuel injection for your 912 or 914 | 
      
      I have seen may people attempt to do fuel injection, but at www.experimentalfuelinjection.com , we do it right. First off, fuel injection requires 8-9amps no matter who is making the set up. With this in mind, the only way to properly run fuel injection is with a 55 amp external alt. Our set ups are simply the best. We offer 4 different configurations of 912's and 5 different configurations of 914's. From Intercooled direct port fuel injection, to truly redundant set ups on fuel and ignition,  we have it all. 
      Regards
      Jason 
      www.experimentalfuelinjection.com
      661 428-1850
      
      
      Andy Gold <andygold@rkymtnhi.com> wrote:             Painting Your RV?  
        Here are some new titles, (and a couple old ones) that will help you design and
      do the job
         
        How To Paint Your Own Aircraft    by Ron Alexander
      
        An easy to follow book on aircraft painting techniques by Sport-air Workshops and EAA. This book discusses materials, equipment, preparation, spraying, detailing, and safety concerns. It is simple but clearly written, and should be sufficient to prepare you for the task of painting a new aircraft. For more information see: www.actechbooks.com/paint_your_own_airplane.htm
        $19.95    book or e-Book      take 10% off today*
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
         
          Automotive Paint Handbook   by John Pfanstiehl
      
        Yes, I know - there is a car on the cover.  But it is still the absolute best book we've found covering the high tech polyurethane and 2 part epoxy paints and primers that are commonly used on aircraft such as Imron, ChromaSystem, and VariPrime  The use of modern HVLP guns are completely covered along with compressors, filters and health protection devices...  It covers preparing your work, spraying, resolving problems, making repairs, custom techniques, cleaning, paint inspection, etc.  For more information see: www.actechbooks.com/automotive_paint_handbook.htm
          $18.95        take 10% off today*
      
      
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
         
        Aircraft Painting 101- DVD   by Sam James
      
        A Pixar production it is not.  But for 2 hours of excellent and detailed information
      specifically on painting an RV (an RV-4) with Dupont Veriprime and Chromabase
      systems this is it. Sam James takes you through the complete process of
      working an RV fuel tank, wheel pant, and detailed design on a horizontal stabilizer.
        $25.95     take 10% off today*
         
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
         
        How to Pinstripe
      
      
        All you need to know about mastering the form of pinstriping.  We have all seen some amazing and unique paint schemes on RVs and other custom aircraft.  If you too would consider such a challenge, here's how its done.  For more information see: www.actechbooks.com/how_to_pinstripe.htm
        $25.95     take 10% off today*
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
         
        How To Airbrush     by JoAnn Bortles
      
        All you need to know about mastering the techniques of airbrushing.  We have all seen some amazing and unique paint schemes on RVs and other custom aircraft.  If you too would consider such a challenge, here's how its done.  Completely illustrated with step by step color photography throughout.   For more information see: www.actechbooks.com/airbrush_painting_techniques.htm
        $24.95      take 10% off today*
         
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
         
        Aircraft Noseart   by Jeffery Ethell
      
        Looking for some unique ideas with your newly discovered pinstriping and airbrush skills?  From pin-ups, to shark mouths, to Popeye, this book is full of high quality color photos to inspire any military orientated custom paint scheme.  For more information see: www.actechbooks.com/aircraft_nose_art.htm
        $24.95  (hard cover)    take 10% off today*
         
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
         
        also new:
          Health For Pilots   by Paul Gahlinger MD
          
        A Complete guide to FAA medical certification and self care. This book explains every detail of the examination; how to prepare for it, why it is required, and how to attain certification in spite of disability or illness. Far more than a guide to passing the test, this book provides advice on subjects from altitude hypoxia, avoiding jet lag, drug screening programs, to flying after scuba diving. For more information see: www.actechbooks.com/health_for_pilots.htm  
        $24.95     take 10% off today*
      
      
         
          
      ---------------------------------
      
           
      
          take 10% off today*
        Through 1/25/08 when you get these or anything else we will deduct 10% from your
      entire order.  To get the discount just write special till 1-25-08 in the
      coupon box on the checkout page.  The discount will be automatically applied.
      Or, if you prefer to order by phone, just tell us you want the discount when
      you call.
         
         
          Thank you for your business,
        Andy Gold
        Builder's Bookstore
        800 780-4115
        www.buildersbooks.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      Is there any chance of getting a picture?  What a great idea.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:15 AM
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      Ralph, I have a pair of 4" fans mounted in the top skin forward of the 
      instrument panel to blow on W/S of my 6A slider. No need for speed control. 
      Maybe the larger fans turn lower RPM. They are similar to cooling fans in a 
      computer tower.
      BTW I use them in the summer to pull hot air from behind the panel and help 
      cool the avionics.
      Dale
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
      <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:35 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      >
      > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of 
      > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the
      
      > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs
      
      > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three 
      > places.
      >
      > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put 
      > in a rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple 
      > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a 
      > half-speed?
      >
      > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a 
      > regular basis
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Ralph
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Controlling defrost fans | 
      
      
      I'll try to take a couple of  good pictures tomorrow and send.
      Dale
      do not archive
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com>
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:18 PM
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      
      
      >
      > Is there any chance of getting a picture?  What a great idea.
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing
      > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:15 AM
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      >
      >
      > Ralph, I have a pair of 4" fans mounted in the top skin forward of the
      > instrument panel to blow on W/S of my 6A slider. No need for speed 
      > control.
      > Maybe the larger fans turn lower RPM. They are similar to cooling fans in 
      > a
      > computer tower.
      > BTW I use them in the summer to pull hot air from behind the panel and 
      > help
      > cool the avionics.
      > Dale
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
      > To: "rv-list" <rv-list@matronics.com>; "Aeroelectric-list"
      > <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:35 AM
      > Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans
      >
      >
      >>
      >> I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of
      >> the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of 
      >> the
      >
      >> support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the 
      >> ribs
      >
      >> that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three
      >> places.
      >>
      >> I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put
      >> in a rheostat to control the fan speed?  KISS would dictate that a simple
      >> on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a
      >> half-speed?
      >>
      >> Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a
      >> regular basis
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >> Ralph
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | New shipping instructions for nose gear mod | 
      
      
      
      http://www.langair.com/vanssb.htm
      
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