---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/17/08: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:59 AM - Re: Black Magic flies (Dana Overall) 2. 06:10 AM - Re: was IFR GPS requirements, now flt test paperwork (glen matejcek) 3. 06:11 AM - Re: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements (glen matejcek) 4. 06:18 AM - Garmin GPS III plus database (Tim Bryan) 5. 06:36 AM - Re: IFR GPS requirements (Mike Robertson) 6. 06:39 AM - Controlling defrost fans (Ralph E. Capen) 7. 07:10 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Ron Lee) 8. 07:15 AM - Re: IFR GPS requirements (Dan Brown) 9. 07:17 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Dale Ensing) 10. 07:20 AM - Re: Garmin GPS III plus database (Tim Bryan) 11. 07:22 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Tim Bryan) 12. 07:23 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Ted French) 13. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements (Bret Smith) 14. 08:36 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 15. 08:53 AM - Re: Black Magic flies (McFarland, Randy) 16. 09:26 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Knicholas2@aol.com) 17. 10:33 AM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (John Jessen) 18. 10:55 AM - Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives? () 19. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives? (Ron Lee) 20. 12:21 PM - Painting Your RV? (Andy Gold) 21. 01:57 PM - First flight (Wheeler North) 22. 02:35 PM - fuel injection for your 912 or 914 (jason Parker) 23. 03:20 PM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Carl Bell) 24. 04:52 PM - Re: Controlling defrost fans (Dale Ensing) 25. 08:04 PM - New shipping instructions for nose gear mod (Bobby Hester) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:52 AM PST US From: Dana Overall Subject: RE: RV-List: Black Magic flies Thanks gang, yes it did take a little longer to finish than I expected at f irst but dang, I just couldn't keep those "life experiences" from getting i n the way of completion................you get the car, I get the truck.... ...you get the furniture, I get my tools................you get the house, I GET THE AIRPLANE!!! Anyway:-), it was worth waiting for this past weekend. Since I posted the link on Doug's site about the first flights, I'll not go into it on this si te, other than to say..........WOOOOO HOOOOO!! Would it be bad if I said I watched an edited video of the entire weekend l ast night just before going to bed......................................... Mark, I may be down in Columbia next Friday, Sat., Sun, I'll let you know. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Flying O 360 A1A, C/S C2YR-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_010.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_065.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Black Magic flies In a message dated 01/16/2008 6:19:46 AM Central Standard Time, bo124rs@hot mail.com writes: Great weekend. >>> After all this time, I figgered it'd be a cold day in.........Kentucky (!) when you got that thing in the air! Way to freakin' GO! Big time congrats to you, Kahuna and all else involved for launching another fine example of the breed into the atmosphere!! Best wishes, be careful, and enjoy Phase Won of your journey! >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo", Columbia, TN do not archive Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!- Play the word scramble challenge with st ar power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ja n ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:12 AM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: RE: was IFR GPS requirements, now flt test paperwork Rick- > If anyone is interested I can provide a copy of my two >tests. I'd love to see that! Plz send to my email below, or if need be I'll send my snail mail address. Thanks!!! glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:28 AM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: RE: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements Hi Bret- RE: ... aircraft with "composite props" could not be certified for IFR flights. 2 of the 3 prop driven airliners I've flown in the past had composite props. I suspect someone has gotten something crossed up somewhere. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:40 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RV-List: Garmin GPS III plus database I have a friend who is here in Texas from Canada with his airplane. His GPS III Plus appears to only have Canadian data. Does anyone know how to switch this Gps over to US? Is there a download somewhere that would help with this? I can't find anything in the manual. Tim Do Not Archive this off topic. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:22 AM PST US From: Mike Robertson Subject: RE: RV-List: IFR GPS requirements We have been flying with a Whirlwind 151. We got ours very early on in the development. We may have even been one of the first ten to get the 151 bl ades. It has been extremely smooth, vibration wise, and works well. Mike Robertson From: carlbell@gforcecable.comTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV-List : IFR GPS requirementsDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:07:32 -0500 Mike, I=92m curious, what composite prop are you using. I=92m looking for an alt ernative to a metal prop that may run smoother. Thx CJ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro nics.com] On Behalf Of Mike RobertsonSent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:3 1 PMTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV-List: IFR GPS requirements Bret, That is absolutely false. I fly behind a composite prop myself and t he RV-9A that I fly is fully IFR ready. Mike RobertsonDas Fed Subject: RE: RV-List: IFR GPS requirementsDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:21:08 - 0500From: cjensen@dts9000.comTo: rv-list@matronics.com Well, someone read it so it must be true....or not. How does stupid stuff like that get started and how does it seem to take on a life of its own? I t's a scary world we live in! Chuck Jensen From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro nics.com]On Behalf Of Bret Smith I know this is a little drift to the thread...but since Mike has entered th e fray I would like his input on another recent declaration. A fellow pilo t just told me this past week that he had read in a popular aero-related ma gazine that aircraft with "composite props" could not be certified for IFR flights. He could not remember which magazine. Can anyone confirm this? Bret SmithRV-9A "Finishing"Blue Ridge, GAwww.FlightInnovations.com t=_bl ank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listp://forums.matronics.comblank >http://www.matronics.com/contribution Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista=AE + Windows Live=99. Start now! http://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail=AE-get yo ur "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:16 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three places. I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed? Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a regular basis Thanks, Ralph ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:23 AM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans A rheostat probably has the same numbers of wires but you can turn it. Hardly seems harder and it does offer flexibility. Ron Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:35 AM Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three > places. > > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put > in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a > half-speed? > > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a > regular basis > > Thanks, > Ralph > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:38 AM PST US From: Dan Brown Subject: Re: RV-List: IFR GPS requirements Quoting Bret Smith : > read in a popular aero-related magazine that aircraft with > "composite props" could not be certified for IFR flights. He could > not remember FWIW, I recently flew a Diamond DA-40 with an MT (composite) prop that was IFR certified. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, dan@familybrown.org "Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring." -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:35 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans Ralph, I have a pair of 4" fans mounted in the top skin forward of the instrument panel to blow on W/S of my 6A slider. No need for speed control. Maybe the larger fans turn lower RPM. They are similar to cooling fans in a computer tower. BTW I use them in the summer to pull hot air from behind the panel and help cool the avionics. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three > places. > > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put > in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a > half-speed? > > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a > regular basis > > Thanks, > Ralph > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:12 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin GPS III plus database As luck would have it I found the answer within a few minutes after posting this. I looked for over an hour before that. It appears I need the MapSource software by garmin. I only have MapSend software for the lowrance, so my friend will need to purchase the software. Thanks anyway, Sorry for the off topic post Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: RV-List: Garmin GPS III plus database I have a friend who is here in Texas from Canada with his airplane. His GPS III Plus appears to only have Canadian data. Does anyone know how to switch this Gps over to US? Is there a download somewhere that would help with this? I can't find anything in the manual. Tim Do Not Archive this off topic. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:05 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I doubt that anything more than an on off switch would be needed. I installed a fan in mine but have not needed it. Enough heat develops under the panel that just having the opening in there has been sufficient. I park in a hangar however so if you need to seriously defrost, than a simple on/ off switch would be all you would need. My opinion of course. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:36 AM > To: rv-list; Aeroelectric-list > Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three > places. > > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put > in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half- > speed? > > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a > regular basis > > Thanks, > Ralph > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:09 AM PST US From: "Ted French" Subject: RE: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I have the same fans, but I just let them run all the time. No switch... Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: January 17, 2008 6:36 AM Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three places. I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed? Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a regular basis Thanks, Ralph ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:03 AM PST US From: "Bret Smith" Subject: RE: RV-List: RE: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements Glen, apparently the reference is in FAR part 23.867. It says as follows: Federal Aviation Regulation Part 23 AIRWORTHINESS STANDARDS: NORMAL, UTILITY, ACROBATIC, AND COMMUTER CATEGORY AIRPLANES Subpart D--Design and Construction Electrical Bonding and Lightning Protection Sec. 23.867 [Electrical bonding and protection against lightning and static electricity.] (a) The airplane must be protected against catastrophic effects from lightning. (b) For metallic components, compliance with paragraph (a) of this section may be shown by-- (1) Bonding the components properly to the airframe; or (2) Designing the components so that a strike will not endanger the airplane. (c) For non-metallic components, compliance with paragraph (a) of this section may be shown by-- (1) Designing the components to minimize the effect of a strike; or (2) Incorporating acceptable means of diverting the resulting electrical current so as not to endanger the airplane. Far part 23.1 states the following: Federal Aviation Regulation Part 23 AIRWORTHINESS STANDARDS: NORMAL, UTILITY, ACROBATIC, AND COMMUTER CATEGORY AIRPLANES Subpart A--General Sec. 23.1 Applicability. [(a) This Part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type certificates, and changes to those certificates, for airplanes in the normal, utility, acrobatic and commuter categories.] (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this Part. Soo...I would not think this applied to experimentals with the special airworthiness category. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, Ga www.FlightInnovations.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of glen matejcek Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: RV-List: RE: ifr props, was IFR GPS requirements Hi Bret- RE: ... aircraft with "composite props" could not be certified for IFR flights. 2 of the 3 prop driven airliners I've flown in the past had composite props. I suspect someone has gotten something crossed up somewhere. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:47 AM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans RALPH, WE HAVE HAD FANS IN THE LAST 3 RV'S WITH JUST THE ON/OFF SWITCH. U SURE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR THEM. DOUG PRESTON N372RV **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Black Magic flies From: "McFarland, Randy" Dana, been watching your posts for the 4 years, 4 months, and 14 days of my 7A process. Damn well worth every hour, wasn't it??? Enjoy your great little time machine. Hope to see/fly with you someday even tho your east coast and I'm west coast. I like the black look! When funds are available mine will be almost all black as well. Fly safe and see you someday. Randy N821RL 7A 140hrs San Jose, Ca ________________________________ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:56 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Black Magic flies Thanks gang, yes it did take a little longer to finish than I expected at first but dang, I just couldn't keep those "life experiences" from getting in the way of completion................you get the car, I get the truck.......you get the furniture, I get my tools................you get the house, I GET THE AIRPLANE!!! Anyway:-), it was worth waiting for this past weekend. Since I posted the link on Doug's site about the first flights, I'll not go into it on this site, other than to say..........WOOOOO HOOOOO!! Would it be bad if I said I watched an edited video of the entire weekend last night just before going to bed......................................... Mark, I may be down in Columbia next Friday, Sat., Sun, I'll let you know. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Flying O 360 A1A, C/S C2YR-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_010.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_065.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive ________________________________ From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Black Magic flies In a message dated 01/16/2008 6:19:46 AM Central Standard Time, bo124rs@hotmail.com writes: Great weekend. >>> After all this time, I figgered it'd be a cold day in.........Kentucky (!) when you got that thing in the air! Way to freakin' GO! Big time congrats to you, Kahuna and all else involved for launching another fine example of the breed into the atmosphere!! Best wishes, be careful, and enjoy Phase Won of your journey! >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo", Columbia, TN do not archive ________________________________ Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. Play now! ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:37 AM PST US From: Knicholas2@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I have several computer cooling fans in my RV9A on the wind screen. I only have on/off, they are very quiet and also serve as a window defroster. I see no need for a rheostat. Kim Nicholas In a message dated 1/17/2008 6:40:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, recapen@earthlink.net writes: I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed? **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:33:21 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans From: John Jessen Wouldn't the variable speed or rheostat be a good source for noise problems in the old headset? Best just use an on/off switch. Those fans are so quiet, who cares if they run full tilt, but they should be able to be turned off in case amps need to be shed, small amount of amps, though. John Jessen do not archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I have several computer cooling fans in my RV9A on the wind screen. I only have on/off, they are very quiet and also serve as a window defroster. I see no need for a rheostat. Kim Nicholas In a message dated 1/17/2008 6:40:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, recapen@earthlink.net writes: I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a half-speed? _____ Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:39 AM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives? How about GM make "ON STAR" and airbags for planes? Ha-ha You could call and ask for cheapest av gas or good hotel on a cross country. Or give a heads up to the family of your ETA. No doubt in the next decade or two we'll have this for GA. However with gas costing what it does, I wounder if GA will exist. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:43 PM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: How To Found: was Home-made 406 MHz alternatives? George, I also am not optimistic about GA. The real indicator that GA is under pressure is that I am cutting my flying. Just get a Spot and the problem is solved. 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What a great idea. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans Ralph, I have a pair of 4" fans mounted in the top skin forward of the instrument panel to blow on W/S of my 6A slider. No need for speed control. Maybe the larger fans turn lower RPM. They are similar to cooling fans in a computer tower. BTW I use them in the summer to pull hot air from behind the panel and help cool the avionics. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of > the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of the > support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the ribs > that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three > places. > > I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put > in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple > on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a > half-speed? > > Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a > regular basis > > Thanks, > Ralph > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:42 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans I'll try to take a couple of good pictures tomorrow and send. Dale do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:18 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > Is there any chance of getting a picture? What a great idea. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:15 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > > Ralph, I have a pair of 4" fans mounted in the top skin forward of the > instrument panel to blow on W/S of my 6A slider. No need for speed > control. > Maybe the larger fans turn lower RPM. They are similar to cooling fans in > a > computer tower. > BTW I use them in the summer to pull hot air from behind the panel and > help > cool the avionics. > Dale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph E. Capen" > To: "rv-list" ; "Aeroelectric-list" > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:35 AM > Subject: RV-List: Controlling defrost fans > > >> >> I have a pair of 1.5"x1.5" fans (Radio Shack 273-240) mounted forward of >> the instrument panel on my 6A slider - think about the intersection of >> the > >> support bulkhead parallel and forward of the instrument panel and the >> ribs > >> that point aft that support the top of the instrument panel in three >> places. >> >> I am wondering if a straight on-off switch is sufficient or should I put >> in a rheostat to control the fan speed? KISS would dictate that a simple >> on-off switch would work - but has anyone out there wished for a >> half-speed? >> >> Here on the DelMarVa peninsula - I'm certain that I'll need it on a >> regular basis >> >> Thanks, >> Ralph >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:16 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: RV-List: New shipping instructions for nose gear mod http://www.langair.com/vanssb.htm -- ---- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my flying RV7A web page: http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.