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1. 06:37 AM - Re: The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and Taxes (mbick)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and Taxes (Bob Collins)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and Taxes (Ed Anderson)
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| Subject: | Re: The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and Taxes |
> -Rob
>
A good point Rob, had not the county I resided in with my aircraft
not had
a much lower tax rate - I, urhmm... might not been as vigorous in
having the
record corrected {:>). But, ultimately, you could have two tax
authorities
after your $$$. In several local counties, the local government has
sent
forms to each airport manager requiring them to list all aircraft that
reside on the airport. My airport manager recently received such a
form and
apparently feels legally bound to comply with it.
Ed
I know the evil airport manager Ed refers to .. :) Yes sadly I am
legally bound to report it or the airport is responsible for the taxes plus
250 fine for each occurrence. I Like Ed for he is a very likable person but
I don't like him so much so that I want to pay his taxes for him.
When I received notice I was at first dumbfounded then I was PISSED. I
thought why is it I have to do the county's dirty work? I called a lawyer
and I contacted a federal authority for surely this insanity could not be
true. They both said yes and pointed to the NC statue (G.S.105-316
subsection a 3) and the fact that it has been upheld since the 50's. Like
boat storage owners and mobile home parks, the county doesn't want you to
hide your assets and wants their money. The Irony in this, you realize a
Private Airport Owner has to collect information for and pay taxes that will
not be providing any assistance to the private owner and to be used to
compete against them making all but impossible to run a private/public
airport unless they have owned the land for years. But that is a whole other
thread and I am sure Private Airport owners are not alone.
I went on to contact the county tax manager explaining to her that there
was no need for me to supply that, for the information was already there and
she told me: "I don't have access to that". I explained to her everyone has
access to that. The FAA puts the information (albeit sometimes incorrect) up
on their web site for everyone to query. She said that is not the way they
do it and to send in the hand written form they sent to me.
I hated doing so for I caught a lot of grief from a few for asking for
it, some flat out refused to do so. I can't blame them for it is really none
of my business but the government makes me do so. So Ed I apologize for
that. :)
Mike
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| Subject: | The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and Taxes |
Easily arranged. All you have to do is decide what services you personally
receive that you're willing to give up and start making calls. Folks usually
want to take away something others are getting, but it'd be more effective
if folks organize to give back benefits they receive.
Do not archive.
How about No Tax, at all. We now pay tax upon tax, tax on the fuel we
burn, tax on the truck the delivers the fuel, tax on the fuel that the
trucked used to bring the fuel, tax on the tires that the truck that
delivered the fuel. the refinery that produced the fuel is taxed, along with
the men and equipment that is used to make the fuel. Taxed on the raw fuel
so as to be able to bring it into the country. not to mention all the other
taxes that are applied to some of the avionics, some where their prob is a
break down of how much tax and the percentages played would the value be.
do not archive
Bob perkinson
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
>
>
> On a similar note... several years back I started receiving property
> tax notices for a plane I had tied down at our local airport. You know
> the typical row of bug smashers left exposed to the elements. It turns
> out that every year between 12/15 and 12/31 a tax assessor drives the
> airport writing down all tail numbers. I am sure they connect the dots
> as to the owners and schedule a property tax bill.
> A year later I sold that plane and purchased a big hangar that now has
> 3 of my 5 planes (don't ask...) I have never received a tax bill for
> these aircraft simply because my N Numbers are out of sight.
> Basically all the small, relatively inexpensive aircraft owners are
> being taxed while all the expensive iron sitting in their comfy, clean
> hangars get a free ride.
> Obviously some of the hangar owners are paying the proper aircraft
> taxes but who knows.
> We need a radically simplified tax system.
>
> Robin
> Panel almost here!
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and Taxes |
No Problem, Mike.
If I did refer to the "Evil" airport manager it was an unintentionally
slip {:>) - actually, our airport manage is not a bad guy - even if he
wouldn't pay my taxes.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: mbick
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: The FAA, County of Regsistration,Zip Code and
Taxes
> -Rob
>
A good point Rob, had not the county I resided in with my
aircraft not had
a much lower tax rate - I, urhmm... might not been as vigorous
in having the
record corrected {:>). But, ultimately, you could have two tax
authorities
after your $$$. In several local counties, the local government
has sent
forms to each airport manager requiring them to list all
aircraft that
reside on the airport. My airport manager recently received
such a form and
apparently feels legally bound to comply with it.
Ed
I know the evil airport manager Ed refers to .. :) Yes sadly I am
legally bound to report it or the airport is responsible for the taxes
plus 250 fine for each occurrence. I Like Ed for he is a very likable
person but I don't like him so much so that I want to pay his taxes for
him.
When I received notice I was at first dumbfounded then I was
PISSED. I thought why is it I have to do the county's dirty work? I
called a lawyer and I contacted a federal authority for surely this
insanity could not be true. They both said yes and pointed to the NC
statue (G.S.105-316 subsection a 3) and the fact that it has been upheld
since the 50's. Like boat storage owners and mobile home parks, the
county doesn't want you to hide your assets and wants their money. The
Irony in this, you realize a Private Airport Owner has to collect
information for and pay taxes that will not be providing any assistance
to the private owner and to be used to compete against them making all
but impossible to run a private/public airport unless they have owned
the land for years. But that is a whole other thread and I am sure
Private Airport owners are not alone.
I went on to contact the county tax manager explaining to her that
there was no need for me to supply that, for the information was already
there and she told me: "I don't have access to that". I explained to her
everyone has access to that. The FAA puts the information (albeit
sometimes incorrect) up on their web site for everyone to query. She
said that is not the way they do it and to send in the hand written form
they sent to me.
I hated doing so for I caught a lot of grief from a few for asking
for it, some flat out refused to do so. I can't blame them for it is
really none of my business but the government makes me do so. So Ed I
apologize for that. :)
Mike
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