---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/24/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:04 AM - Re: EGT probe location (Glen Matejcek) 2. 11:44 AM - Canopy slide block (James H Nelson) 3. 03:08 PM - Gas tank repair (Louis Willig) 4. 05:01 PM - Re: Gas tank repair (Larry Bowen) 5. 06:15 PM - Re: Gas tank repair (Kyle Boatright) 6. 06:15 PM - Re: Gas tank repair (Mike Robertson) 7. 06:17 PM - Re: gas tank repair (Dan Ross) 8. 09:07 PM - Re: Canopy slide block (mike humphrey) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:03 AM PST US From: Glen Matejcek Subject: RV-List: Re: EGT probe location Hi All- Another point to ponder is that the further from the cylinder the probes are, the longer they are liable to last. As with everything we do in this field, it's all a trade off. Glen Matejcek ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:05 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Canopy slide block From: James H Nelson For those of you who built the slider canopy, I am about to put the canopy on for the final time (at the painters). How did you fasten the slider block to the canopy to drag it back and forth. There is not much room to fasten anything to it. I'm guessing that a fishing line of nylon would work but how to fasten it to the block? I molded the skirt with fiberglass so the block fits snugly when the canopy is closed. I need some suggestions from those who have done it successfully. Jim N15JN RV9-A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:40 PM PST US From: Louis Willig Subject: RV-List: Gas tank repair Hi gang, A few months ago, many of you gave me a lot of help/instruction to remove my leaky tank. I finally removed it today, with a lot less problems than I anticipated. BUT, I am finding that the large (6") access plate is not so obedient. I carefully removed all 12 screws. Now what? The plate is prosealed in place, and has lots of additional sealant from previous repairs. I removed most of the added repair sealant while trying not to gauge away at the plate and rib. Since I am not the builder, I am not sure what I am now looking at. Looking at the edge of the access plate, it appears to be two layers of aluminum resting on the rib material. Is there a reinforcement ring between the access plate and the rib material? (I am calling the ends of the tank "ribs" since they in fact are acting as such). Whatever is there, the access plate is firmly attached with proseal to the rib or ring below. Anyway, I do not want to destroy this tank. How do I lift the access plate away? Do I need to soften up the proseal? Can this be done? Help!! I love you guys. Help! :-) Thanks in advance. - Louis I Willig 1640 Oakwood Dr. Penn Valley, PA 19072 610 668-4964 RV-4, N180PF 190HP IO-360, C/S prop ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:18 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gas tank repair If all the screws are out, only the proseal is holding it on. Work a blade of some sort between the access cover and the rib, being careful not to score anything. Some more notes and pictures here: http://bowenaero.com/mt/2006/11/conditional-inspection-2006.html -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Louis Willig wrote: > > > Hi gang, > > A few months ago, many of you gave me a lot of help/instruction to > remove my leaky tank. I finally removed it today, with a lot less > problems than I anticipated. BUT, I am finding that the large (6") > access plate is not so obedient. I carefully removed all 12 screws. > Now what? The plate is prosealed in place, and has lots of > additional sealant from previous repairs. I removed most of the added > repair sealant while trying not to gauge away at the plate and rib. > Since I am not the builder, I am not sure what I am now looking at. > Looking at the edge of the access plate, it appears to be two layers > of aluminum resting on the rib material. Is there a reinforcement > ring between the access plate and the rib material? (I am calling the > ends of the tank "ribs" since they in fact are acting as such). > Whatever is there, the access plate is firmly attached with proseal > to the rib or ring below. > > Anyway, I do not want to destroy this tank. How do I lift the access > plate away? Do I need to soften up the proseal? Can this be done? > Help!! I love you guys. Help! :-) > > Thanks in advance. > > > - > Louis I Willig > 1640 Oakwood Dr. > Penn Valley, PA 19072 > 610 668-4964 > RV-4, N180PF > 190HP IO-360, C/S prop > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:12 PM PST US From: "Kyle Boatright" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gas tank repair Get a metal putty knife and file the edge to a chisel point, then use that to cut through the proseal. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Willig" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: RV-List: Gas tank repair > > > Hi gang, > > A few months ago, many of you gave me a lot of help/instruction to remove > my leaky tank. I finally removed it today, with a lot less problems than I > anticipated. BUT, I am finding that the large (6") access plate is not so > obedient. I carefully removed all 12 screws. Now what? The plate is > prosealed in place, and has lots of additional sealant from previous > repairs. I removed most of the added repair sealant while trying not to > gauge away at the plate and rib. Since I am not the builder, I am not sure > what I am now looking at. Looking at the edge of the access plate, it > appears to be two layers of aluminum resting on the rib material. Is there > a reinforcement ring between the access plate and the rib material? (I am > calling the ends of the tank "ribs" since they in fact are acting as > such). Whatever is there, the access plate is firmly attached with proseal > to the rib or ring below. > > Anyway, I do not want to destroy this tank. How do I lift the access plate > away? Do I need to soften up the proseal? Can this be done? Help!! I love > you guys. Help! :-) > > Thanks in advance. > > > - > Louis I Willig > 1640 Oakwood Dr. > Penn Valley, PA 19072 > 610 668-4964 > RV-4, N180PF > 190HP IO-360, C/S prop > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:41 PM PST US From: Mike Robertson Subject: RE: RV-List: Gas tank repair Louis, There may , or may not, be a cork gasket between the tank rib and the panel . My favorite weapon of choice for removing this panel is a slightly sharp ened butter knife. Start working the knife between the panels and work it around the panel cutting and prying slowly as you go. I tell everyone to t ake their time when doing this and you will cause very little damage. Good luck. Mike Robertson Repeat offender Das Fed > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:05:09 -0500> To: rv-list@matronics.com> From: l arywil@comcast.net> Subject: RV-List: Gas tank repair> > --> RV-List messag e posted by: Louis Willig > > > Hi gang,> > A few mont hs ago, many of you gave me a lot of help/instruction to > remove my leaky tank. I finally removed it today, with a lot less > problems than I anticip ated. BUT, I am finding that the large (6") > access plate is not so obedie nt. I carefully removed all 12 screws. > Now what? The plate is prosealed i n place, and has lots of > additional sealant from previous repairs. I remo ved most of the added > repair sealant while trying not to gauge away at th e plate and rib. > Since I am not the builder, I am not sure what I am now looking at. > Looking at the edge of the access plate, it appears to be two layers > of aluminum resting on the rib material. Is there a reinforcement > ring between the access plate and the rib material? (I am calling the > ends of the tank "ribs" since they in fact are acting as such). > Whatever is there, the access plate is firmly attached with proseal > to the rib or ring below.> > Anyway, I do not want to destroy this tank. How do I lift th e access > plate away? Do I need to soften up the proseal? Can this be done ? > Help!! I love you guys. Help! :-)> > Thanks in advance.> > > > -> Louis I Willig> 1640 Oakwood Dr.> Penn Valley, PA 19072> 610 668-4964> RV-4, N18 ==========> > > _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:33 PM PST US From: "Dan Ross" Subject: RV-List: Re: gas tank repair Louis: I used a heat gun to warn and soften the Proseal. I understand the fuel tank is full of vapors and I kept the heat gun away from the tank access plate as possible but still heat the plate sufficiently to soften the Proseal and used a razor knife under the plate, MEK to clean. Hope this helps, Dan. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:50 PM PST US From: "mike humphrey" Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy slide block Jim, Look at the slider plans closely up in the right hand side and it shows the attachment of the slider block. BTW I omitted mine. Mike H 9A/8A ----- Original Message ----- From: "James H Nelson" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: RV-List: Canopy slide block > > For those of you who built the slider canopy, I am about to put the > canopy on for the final time (at the painters). How did you fasten the > slider block to the canopy to drag it back and forth. There is not much > room to fasten anything to it. I'm guessing that a fishing line of nylon > would work but how to fasten it to the block? I molded the skirt with > fiberglass so the block fits snugly when the canopy is closed. I need > some suggestions from those who have done it successfully. > > Jim > N15JN > RV9-A > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.