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1. 03:14 AM - Re: Gas tank repair (Dale Ensing)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: stab offset (glen matejcek)
3. 08:30 AM - Re: Gas tank repair (mike humphrey)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: stab offset (Tim Bryan)
5. 08:51 AM - tanks (Wheeler North)
6. 09:19 AM - Re: tanks (John W. Cox)
7. 11:14 AM - 8130-4 FAA Form (Merlin)
8. 12:05 PM - Re: 8130-4 FAA Form (Mike Robertson)
9. 05:38 PM - Langair (Emrath)
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| Subject: | Re: Gas tank repair |
I do not recall a separate reinforcement ring on my 6A. Only that which is
formed into the rib/tank wall. Could you be seeing a cork gasket? Or other
gasket material? I suggest you start working the tool between the access
plate and what ever is next.
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Willig" <larywil@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Gas tank repair
>
> At 06:02 AM 2/25/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>A method we have used successfully. when doing the SB fix on the pick up
>>line, is to use a very flexible putty knife sharpened a bit on the end
>>edge. Work it in between the plate and the ring. It helps if you can warm
>>the Proseal.(heat lamp or sun) After you have one side loose you can
>>apply some pressure to the plate by pulling/lifting on the loose side
>>which will help get the knife in around the remaining edge. A little
>>bending of the plate is OK when you are pulling on it as it will
>>straighten when you release the pressure.
>>Dale Ensing
>>EAA TC & FA
>
> Dale,
>
> you are the first person to use the word " ring". Is there a ring ( like
> a reinforcing) between the access plate and the tank wall? I see what
> looks like two layers of metal attached to the rib. Is this an illusion?
> (or is there actually a ring between the access plate and the tank wall? I
> have been unable to decide where to attack with my sharpened knife.
>
> Several people have suggested heating the area. This is a great idea. And
> there are zero fumes left in the tank.
>
> Thanks to all so far. I've been on the "list" for over ten years, and this
> is why.
>
>
> -
> Louis I Willig
> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
> Penn Valley, PA 19072
> 610 668-4964
> RV-4, N180PF
> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>
>
>
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Hey Terry-
Thanks for the reply on the stab offset a while back. Sorry for the slow
response- I may be slow, but I am stupid....
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
Do not archiv
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| Subject: | Re: Gas tank repair |
Dale,
As I recall on my 9A there is a separate reinforcement ring that the
nutplates as flush riveted to and then prosealed to the inside of the outer
most rib. The cover plate is then prosealed on the inside and then attached
to the rib with screws with the cork gasket sandwiched between. This is the
cover plate NOT the sender attach plate. So the screws are through cover
plate-cork gasket-rib-reinforcement ring-platenuts. Check your plans set
but I am almost positive that is how the 9A tanks are assembled. Now for
the disclaimer before anyone jumps my neck-Check you plan set, I may be
wrong since I have not looked at the plans for about 2 years, this is only
my recollection of the sequence.
Mike H 9A/8A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Gas tank repair
>
> I do not recall a separate reinforcement ring on my 6A. Only that which is
> formed into the rib/tank wall. Could you be seeing a cork gasket? Or other
> gasket material? I suggest you start working the tool between the access
> plate and what ever is next.
> Dale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis Willig" <larywil@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Gas tank repair
>
>
>>
>> At 06:02 AM 2/25/2008, you wrote:
>>>
>>>A method we have used successfully. when doing the SB fix on the pick up
>>>line, is to use a very flexible putty knife sharpened a bit on the end
>>>edge. Work it in between the plate and the ring. It helps if you can warm
>>>the Proseal.(heat lamp or sun) After you have one side loose you can
>>>apply some pressure to the plate by pulling/lifting on the loose side
>>>which will help get the knife in around the remaining edge. A little
>>>bending of the plate is OK when you are pulling on it as it will
>>>straighten when you release the pressure.
>>>Dale Ensing
>>>EAA TC & FA
>>
>> Dale,
>>
>> you are the first person to use the word " ring". Is there a ring ( like
>> a reinforcing) between the access plate and the tank wall? I see what
>> looks like two layers of metal attached to the rib. Is this an
>> illusion? (or is there actually a ring between the access plate and the
>> tank wall? I have been unable to decide where to attack with my sharpened
>> knife.
>>
>> Several people have suggested heating the area. This is a great idea. And
>> there are zero fumes left in the tank.
>>
>> Thanks to all so far. I've been on the "list" for over ten years, and
>> this is why.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Louis I Willig
>> 1640 Oakwood Dr.
>> Penn Valley, PA 19072
>> 610 668-4964
>> RV-4, N180PF
>> 190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>> I may be slow, but I am stupid.... <<
Wow, a double whammy! lol
Tim Bryan
RV-6
Do Not Archive
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And there are zero fumes left in the tank.
This condition is not possible unless there has never been any fuel in the
tank.
And I've seen more then one person have a booming experience believing it
was possible.
Some old, still living, tank welders tricks are route some exhaust gasses
into the tank while working on it, dry nitrogen, and I think they used to
pour some carbon tetrocloride, or something like that into it, again to fume
out the oxygen.
However, if we see you whiz by during the next eclipse we'll at least know
what became of you...
;{)
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The Poor Man's purge system is a few chunks of Dry Ice which when
evaporated creates CO2 which is heavier than hydrocarbon fumes.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wheeler North
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: RV-List: tanks
And there are zero fumes left in the tank.
This condition is not possible unless there has never been any fuel in
the
tank.
And I've seen more then one person have a booming experience believing
it
was possible.
Some old, still living, tank welders tricks are route some exhaust
gasses
into the tank while working on it, dry nitrogen, and I think they used
to
pour some carbon tetrocloride, or something like that into it, again to
fume
out the oxygen.
However, if we see you whiz by during the next eclipse we'll at least
know
what became of you...
;{)
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Hello,
To export a certified Lycoming to Europe, Vans told me they cannot join a
8130-4 form. They put instead an export airworthiness certificate, which is
not valid in Belgium. Does a dear European fellow RV Member have more
experience with such a problem ? (Nothing found in the archive).
Thanks in advance to the community,
Philippe
Brussels
RV9A - busy with fuselage
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Phillippe,
I work for the Federal Aviation Admin here in the US and used to prepare th
e Export documents for Van's Aircraft. According to AC 21-2K the US and Be
lgium have a bi-lateral agreement. They should, therefore, accept the expo
rt Certificate of Airworthiness that needs to issued for an engine. If you
are having problems with your local people you can contact our internation
al office in Brussels at the American Embassy.
Mike Robertson
Das Fed
From: phil.merlin@skynet.beTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: 8130-
4 FAA FormDate: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:12:27 +0100
Hello,
To export a certified Lycoming to Europe, Vans told me they cannot join a 8
130-4 form. They put instead an export airworthiness certificate, which is
not valid in Belgium. Does a dear European fellow RV Member have more expe
rience with such a problem ? (Nothing found in the archive).
Thanks in advance to the community,
Philippe
Brussels
RV9A - busy with fuselage
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Folks, I have to give some "kudos" to Langair. I shipped them my gear leg
to perform the SB07-11-9 modification to the gear leg for my RV-6A and he
turned it around in ONE day!!! GREAT serivce and the leg looks just like
the new leg that it is! Sure wish Van's backlog of the new wheel weldment
would ease up a bit now.
Marty in Brentwood TN
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