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1. 10:57 AM - Re: Carb heat in the 9A (Tim Bryan)
2. 11:00 AM - Re: Carb heat in the 9A (Ed Holyoke)
3. 01:16 PM - wheel chocks (davidbf@centurytel.net)
4. 01:16 PM - Re: stainless fuel lines (John Veld)
5. 03:08 PM - Re: Stainless Steel Fuel Line (Skylor Piper)
6. 03:45 PM - Re: wheel chocks (Dana Overall)
7. 04:18 PM - Re: wheel chocks (Kyle Boatright)
8. 04:48 PM - Re: wheel chocks (Kelly McMullen)
9. 04:57 PM - Re: Carb heat in the 9A (Karl Ahamer)
10. 04:57 PM - Re: wheel chocks (Dale Ensing)
11. 05:57 PM - Re: wheel chocks (HCRV6@comcast.net)
12. 07:07 PM - Re: wheel chocks (Bayne)
13. 07:53 PM - Re: Carb heat in the 9A (Bobby Hester)
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| Subject: | Carb heat in the 9A |
It does seem effective in flight as there is a rpm drop when applied. Mine
doesn't make any difference on the ground when doing a run up. I wouldn't
hesitate to use it as shown.
Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Hoover
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Carb heat in the 9A
>
>
> Grant,
> I installed Van's heat muff on the x over pipe on my 7A, I have not
> flown yet so no pirep.
> Anyone else attest to the effectiveness?
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1204238207-138-
> 198&browse=engines&product=carbheat-muff
>
> --
> Ralph C. Hoover
> RV7A
> hooverra at verizon dot net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carb heat in the 9A |
I installed one of these on our 6A and was not impressed. We got maybe
10 rpm drop. We changed it out to about a 10" long muff fitted over on
of the crossover pipes and got much better results. That said, I've
never needed carb heat on our O-320, although I do use a little bit when
aggressively leaning to aid with atomization.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Grant,
> I installed Van's heat muff on the x over pipe on my 7A, I have not
> flown yet so no pirep.
> Anyone else attest to the effectiveness?
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1204238207-138-198&browse=engines&product=carbheat-muff
>
>
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I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on a ramp. At
some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a line guy
wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but eventually
brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges advertised
along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to be the ideal
thing for the RV.
Dave Ford
Cadillac, MI
RV6 flying 250 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: stainless fuel lines |
In addition to the 4 negatives in the reply below:
-you mentioned TIG welding... you do NOT want welds in your
fuel
lines!!.... due to possible corrosion, fatigue life issues, etc.
-a stainless tubing system requires all stainless, or at least
steel,
fittings... using a stainless 'b' nut on an aluminum nipple will
eventually lead to galvanic corrosion, galling of the threads when you
try to remove the lines, and leaking due to corrosion of the
sealing
surface of the aluminum nipple...
-the stainless tubing is more rigid, and MAY transfer more
vibration
loads, etc to the supporting structure (with fatigue cracking
results) ... especially if the bends are not EXACT, causing you to
need to use some force to line up the ends...
I spent 15 years in the USAF in aircraft structural repair and have
made literally hundreds of hyd, fuel, & air lines from aluminum and
stainless steel .... i have also seen most of the conditions i have
described here... (not the welded fuel lines, though...NOBODY does that)
....hope this is educational enough for you!
John V in Kalamazoo
On 29 Feb, 2008, at 0257, RV-List Digest Serve
r wrote:
> Here are four negatives:
>
> A way to add extra weight.
> A way to add extra cost.
> A way to add to the level of technical difficulty.
> A way to add extra physical work bending and fitting etc.
>
> The Kiss rule rules, {[;-)
>
> Jim in Kelowna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Duran
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:27 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Stainless Steel Fuel Line
>
>
> I am considering using stainless steel tubing for the rigid fuel
> lines
> on my 7. Yeah I know there are hundreds of RV's and thousands of
> other
> planes flying around out there with aluminum lines, but I thought it
> would be fun and educational to use SS, help my TIG welding skills,
> etc....
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| Subject: | Re: Stainless Steel Fuel Line |
If you did use stainless lines, you would most
certainly want to use AN flared tubing, and not mess
around with welded line.
Nevertheless, as others have already pointed out, this
is a good way to add weight and expense without
addning much real benefit.
Skylor
RV-8 QB
Under Construction
--- Michael Duran <duranberg@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am considering using stainless steel tubing for
> the rigid fuel lines on my
> 7. Yeah I know there are hundreds of RV's and
> thousands of other planes
> flying around out there with aluminum lines, but I
> thought it would be fun
> and educational to use SS, help my TIG welding
> skills, etc....
>
> Anyway, can anyone come up with any negatives to
> doing so?
>
>
> Michael Duran
>
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Dave, just go get you some 3/4 inch angle and cut four pieces 4" long. Dri
ll a hole in the end of each and run a length of twine joining them togethe
r. Cheap, easy, light and they won't damage your wheelpants. Works like a
charm.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider "Black Magic"
Flying
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YR-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_010.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:45:17 -0500
> From: davidbf@centurytel.net
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: wheel chocks
>
>
> I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on a ram
p. At
> some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a line
guy
> wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but eventuall
y
> brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges advertise
d
> along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to be the
ideal
> thing for the RV.
>
>
> Dave Ford
> Cadillac, MI
> RV6 flying 250 hrs
>
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| Subject: | Re: wheel chocks |
I carry a couple of short lengths of 3/4" angle I had left over from
building the airplane. Lightweight, easily packable, and works well...
----- Original Message -----
From: <davidbf@centurytel.net>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: RV-List: wheel chocks
>
> I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on a
> ramp. At
> some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a line
> guy
> wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but eventually
> brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges advertised
> along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to be the
> ideal
> thing for the RV.
>
>
> Dave Ford
> Cadillac, MI
> RV6 flying 250 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wheel chocks |
Just go to the PMA section at Lowes or Home Despot. Pick whatever size
ABS pipe that will fit under your wheel pants. Buy two Ls and two caps
and a 10 ft section of the pipe. Cut to size to make a U that fits your
tire tightly. I have I think 1.5" pipe, and no 6X6 tire is going to jump
it. Locks wheel in place. One on each main will stop even a tail dragger
from wagging its tail in the wind. BTDT.
Dana Overall wrote:
> Dave, just go get you some 3/4 inch angle and cut four pieces 4"
> long. Drill a hole in the end of each and run a length of twine
> joining them together. Cheap, easy, light and they won't damage your
> wheelpants. Works like a charm.
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying
> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YR-1BF/F7666A4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/firstflight_010.jpg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
> > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:45:17 -0500
> > From: davidbf@centurytel.net
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV-List: wheel chocks
> >
> >
> > I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on
> a ramp. At
> > some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a
> line guy
> > wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but
> eventually
> > brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges
> advertised
> > along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to
> be the ideal
> > thing for the RV.
> >
> >
> > Dave F===========
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Carb heat in the 9A |
Hi all
I had one from Vans initially in my 6A and the rpm drop was very
small.Changed over to one made by Robins Wings and got 100rpm drop.
Karl/Sydney Australia
7A first flight maybe this Sunday!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Saturday, 1 March 2008 4:14 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Carb heat in the 9A
It does seem effective in flight as there is a rpm drop when applied.
Mine
doesn't make any difference on the ground when doing a run up. I
wouldn't
hesitate to use it as shown.
Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Hoover
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Carb heat in the 9A
>
>
> Grant,
> I installed Van's heat muff on the x over pipe on my 7A, I have
not
> flown yet so no pirep.
> Anyone else attest to the effectiveness?
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1204238207-138-
> 198&browse=engines&product=carbheat-muff
>
> --
> Ralph C. Hoover
> RV7A
> hooverra at verizon dot net
>
>
>
28/02/2008 12:14 PM
28/02/2008 12:14 PM
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| Subject: | Re: wheel chocks |
I like the Koger chocks from Cleveland Tools. The tire rolls on to the chock
base and prevents it from skidding. Also like the way they nest together for
storage. I use only one set on the nose wheel. You may want two sets for the
mains.
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KWCB2
Dale Ensing
RV-6A
Weddington NC
----- Original Message -----
From: <davidbf@centurytel.net>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: RV-List: wheel chocks
>
> I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on a
> ramp. At
> some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a line
> guy
> wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but eventually
> brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges advertised
> along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to be the
> ideal
> thing for the RV.
>
>
> Dave Ford
> Cadillac, MI
> RV6 flying 250 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wheel chocks |
I have I have pretty low wheel fairings on my RV-6. I made up some 3/4 in PVC
pipe chocks that have worked very well for me for going on four years now. With
two Ls and two caps, make up a U shaped chock for each wheel. The spanwise
legs are about eight inches long and make the chordwise leg so that they fit
a little snug to the tire. There is a little trick to removing them that you
will quickly pick up on. They are light. very effective and cheap, what more
can you ask for.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, flying - 443 hours
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: davidbf@centurytel.net
>
> I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on a ramp.
At
> some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a line guy
> wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but eventually
> brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges advertised
> along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to be the ideal
> thing for the RV.
>
>
> Dave Ford
> Cadillac, MI
> RV6 flying 250 hrs
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wheel chocks |
Hi David,
I use the Koger wheel chocks on my RV-9A, they do the job.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/koger-chocks.htm
Bayne
RV-9A N910BJ
KSEE Gillespie Field
San Diego
----- Original Message -----
From: <davidbf@centurytel.net>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: RV-List: wheel chocks
>
> I'm wondering what RVers are doing for wheel chocks when parking on a
> ramp. At
> some of the airports I've flown to, one in particular I'm met with a line
> guy
> wanting to kick the thick yellow chocks into my wheelpants, but eventually
> brings it back to the tailwheel. I've seen some plastic wedges advertised
> along with metal angle, but wondered if anyone's found the item to be the
> ideal
> thing for the RV.
>
>
> Dave Ford
> Cadillac, MI
> RV6 flying 250 hrs
>
>
> --
> 8:18 AM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carb heat in the 9A |
Go here and order the carb heat muff and airbox housing :-)
http://www.robbinswings.com/products.htm
----
Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my flying RV7A web page:
http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
Grant Neilson wrote:
> I see nowhere in the plans indicating that warmed air should be
> routed via a SCAT tube directly to the hole made in the top plate of
> the filtered air box. Is the radiant heat from the adjacent exhaust
> pipe in the low pressure area of the cowling sufficient for carb heat
> or should I be directing some air to the opening in the filtered air
> box with a heat muff / SCAT tube?
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Grant Neilson, RV9A finishing
>
>
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