---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/18/08: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:50 AM - Engine movement (glen matejcek) 2. 06:13 AM - Re: Engine movement (William Gill) 3. 06:15 AM - Evil Replies (Dave Reel) 4. 06:31 AM - Re: Evil Replies (Lenleg@aol.com) 5. 06:48 AM - Re: Evil Replies (Bill Boyd) 6. 06:57 AM - Re: Evil Replies (Richard Seiders) 7. 07:03 AM - Re: Evil Replies (David E. Nelson) 8. 07:20 AM - Re: Evil Replies (Dan) 9. 07:31 AM - Re: Evil Replies (Steven Reynard) 10. 08:19 AM - Re: Evil Replies (dfischer@iserv.net) 11. 08:19 AM - Re: Evil Replies (Mike Divan) 12. 01:47 PM - P-51 (Bill VonDane) 13. 02:33 PM - Re: P-51 (Larry Pardue) 14. 02:38 PM - Re: P-51 (Jack Hilditch) 15. 02:43 PM - Re: P-51 (David Burton) 16. 02:56 PM - TCW Technologies / Safety-Trim special announcement (Bob-tcw) 17. 08:42 PM - Re: Evil Replies (Don Diehl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:56 AM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: Engine movement Hi All- Does anyone have any good info on how much an angle valve engine moves within the RV-8 cowling during acro and other yankin and bankin? I'm astounded by how little clearance there is on the (A/C) left side. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:31 AM PST US From: "William Gill" Subject: RE: RV-List: Engine movement Glen, Yep, not a lot space there. I have the angle valve in a RV-7 and can't slip a finger between the tappet cover and cowl on the left side, but no interference has occurred during +4g thru -1g flights. Most of the movement is "rotational" during start-up & shut-down. Bill RV-7 N151WP -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of glen matejcek Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: RV-List: Engine movement Hi All- Does anyone have any good info on how much an angle valve engine moves within the RV-8 cowling during acro and other yankin and bankin? I'm astounded by how little clearance there is on the (A/C) left side. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:22 AM PST US From: "Dave Reel" Subject: RV-List: Evil Replies Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw from my account? Dave Reel Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the web.I will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright I will need the following information and details to make payment arrangement Bank Name & Bank Address Beneficiary Name Account Number & Routine Number Here is the information you are to make the invoice: INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS 162 Moorside Road, Downham, Bromley, Kent. BRI 5ET Phone: +44-701-113-2553 Send me the following information as soon as possible. Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:02 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies I got one of the same type of replies when I had my -8A on the market ... I just deleted it and moved on .. knew it was bunk !!! Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, NC N910LL 620 hrs In a message dated 3/18/2008 9:17:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dreel@cox.net writes: Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw from my account? Dave Reel Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the web.I will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright I will need the following information and details to make payment arrangement Bank Name & Bank Address Beneficiary Name Account Number & Routine Number Here is the information you are to make the invoice: INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS 162 Moorside Road, Downham, Bromley, Kent. BRI 5ET Phone: +44-701-113-2553 Send me the following information as soon as possible. Regards ____________________________________ _Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy._ (mhtml:{DC2370D4-9D77-4719-AEF2-11CB8E8457FC}mid://00000026/!x-usc:http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51524/*http://de.mobil e.yahoo.com/interstitial?refer=e00127) . (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:49 AM PST US From: "Bill Boyd" Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies A bald-faced scam, absolutely. And disgraceful English, for a subject of the Crown (although there's a chance he's more fluent in Britain's new official language, Pakistani.) I'd send him the requested info, with a few digits out of sequence, just to play with him and get his panties in a bunch. -Stormy On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Dave Reel wrote: > Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than > buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw from my > account? > > *Dave Reel > Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite satisfied > with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in buying from you > and i would like to make an outright purchase immediately so i will advice > that you withdraw the advert from the web.I will be paying with wire > transfer, if this alright. > > > Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not be > available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look it up > but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the information > from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment has been > sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will be in form > of a wire transfer, if this alright > > I will need the following information and details to make payment > arrangement > > Bank Name & Bank Address > Beneficiary Name > Account Number & Routine Number > > Here is the information you are to make the invoice: > INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS > 162 Moorside Road, > Downham, Bromley, Kent. > BRI 5ET > Phone: +44-701-113-2553 > > Send me the following information as soon as possible. > > > Regards* > ** > ** > > ------------------------------ > *Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.*. > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:38 AM PST US From: Richard Seiders Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies I suspect you are 100% correct in your conclusion. At 09:12 AM 3/18/2008, you wrote: >Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather >than buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to >withdraw from my account? > >Dave Reel >Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite >satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in >buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase >immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the >web.I will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. > > >Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might >not be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come >and look it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK >with the information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as >soon as payment has been sorted out between us and also do the >inspection. Payment will be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright > >I will need the following information and details to make payment arrangement > >Bank Name & Bank Address >Beneficiary Name >Account Number & Routine Number > >Here is the information you are to make the invoice: > INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS > 162 Moorside Road, > Downham, Bromley, Kent. > BRI 5ET > Phone: +44-701-113-2553 > >Send me the following information as soon as possible. > > >Regards > > >Lesen >Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:52 AM PST US From: "David E. Nelson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies Hi Dave, Red flag alert! Run, don't walk, away from this! ;) The foreign address just further confirms my uneasiness with this. The buyer specifies twice that he wants to do a wire xfer and he's in a rush. And if that wasn't bad enough, there are cases in which certified checks were forged but by the time it was discovered, the person(s) and the merchandise were long gone! So much for that avenue. Good luck, /\/elson RV-7A - Fuselage ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any spring. ~~ On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Dave Reel wrote: > Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than > buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw > from my account? > > Dave Reel > > Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite > satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in > buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase > immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the web.I > will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. > > > Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not > be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look > it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the > information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment > has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will > be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright > > I will need the following information and details to make payment > arrangement > > Bank Name & Bank Address > Beneficiary Name > Account Number & Routine Number > > Here is the information you are to make the invoice: > INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS > 162 Moorside Road, > Downham, Bromley, Kent. > BRI 5ET > Phone: +44-701-113-2553 > > Send me the following information as soon as possible. > > > Regards > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:00 AM PST US From: Dan Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies I sell boats for a living and get these type of replys often,,, very much a scam I delete straight away, Dave Reel wrote: Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw from my account? Dave Reel Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the web.I will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright I will need the following information and details to make payment arrangement Bank Name & Bank Address Beneficiary Name Account Number & Routine Number Here is the information you are to make the invoice: INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS 162 Moorside Road, Downham, Bromley, Kent. BRI 5ET Phone: +44-701-113-2553 Send me the following information as soon as possible. Regards --------------------------------- Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:38 AM PST US From: "Steven Reynard" Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies Hi Dave, Or you could forward it to Olu Onasanya, Managing Director of Industrial Solutions UK Ltd for an explanation. What are the chances he doesn't know his company wants to buy from you? olu@industrial-solutions.co.uk http://www.industrial-solutions.co.uk Don't you love Google?!? :) Steve On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:58 AM, David E. Nelson wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > Red flag alert! Run, don't walk, away from this! ;) The foreign address > just further confirms my uneasiness with this. The buyer specifies twice > that he wants to do a wire xfer and he's in a rush. > > And if that wasn't bad enough, there are cases in which certified checks > were forged but by the time it was discovered, the person(s) and the > merchandise were long gone! So much for that avenue. > > Good luck, > /\/elson > RV-7A - Fuselage > > ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any > spring. ~~ > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Dave Reel wrote: > > > Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than > > buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw > > from my account? > > > > Dave Reel > > > > Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite > > satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in > > buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase > > immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the web.I > > will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. > > > > > > > > Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not > > be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look > > it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the > > information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment > > has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will > > be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright > > > > I will need the following information and details to make payment > > arrangement > > > > Bank Name & Bank Address > > Beneficiary Name > > Account Number & Routine Number > > > > Here is the information you are to make the invoice: > > INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS > > 162 Moorside Road, > > Downham, Bromley, Kent. > > BRI 5ET > > Phone: +44-701-113-2553 > > > > Send me the following information as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies From: dfischer@iserv.net Also it is likely that they are not in the UK at all. At the bottom of the message is : "Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy..". German for "read your e-mails from the handie (mobile phone)" Doug Fischer do not archive > Hi Dave, > > Or you could forward it to Olu Onasanya, Managing Director of Industrial > Solutions UK Ltd for an explanation. What are the chances he doesn't know > his company wants to buy from you? > > olu@industrial-solutions.co.uk > http://www.industrial-solutions.co.uk > > Don't you love Google?!? :) > > > Steve > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:58 AM, David E. Nelson > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Red flag alert! Run, don't walk, away from this! ;) The foreign address >> just further confirms my uneasiness with this. The buyer specifies twice >> that he wants to do a wire xfer and he's in a rush. >> >> And if that wasn't bad enough, there are cases in which certified checks >> were forged but by the time it was discovered, the person(s) and the >> merchandise were long gone! So much for that avenue. >> >> Good luck, >> /\/elson >> RV-7A - Fuselage >> >> ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any >> spring. ~~ >> >> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Dave Reel wrote: >> >> > Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than >> > buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw >> > from my account? >> > >> > Dave Reel >> > >> > Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite >> > satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in >> > buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase >> > immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the >> web.I >> > will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. >> > >> > >> > >> > Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might >> not >> > be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and >> look >> > it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the >> > information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as >> payment >> > has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment >> will >> > be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright >> > >> > I will need the following information and details to make payment >> > arrangement >> > >> > Bank Name & Bank Address >> > Beneficiary Name >> > Account Number & Routine Number >> > >> > Here is the information you are to make the invoice: >> > INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS >> > 162 Moorside Road, >> > Downham, Bromley, Kent. >> > BRI 5ET >> > Phone: +44-701-113-2553 >> > >> > Send me the following information as soon as possible. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:50 AM PST US From: Mike Divan Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies It is a SCAM plan and simple. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6,flying :) SLOW 7 Builder :( EAA - 577486 FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! ----- Original Message ---- From: Dave Reel Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:12:34 AM Subject: RV-List: Evil Replies Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather than buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to withdraw from my account? Dave Reel Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the web.I will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might not be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come and look it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK with the information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as soon as payment has been sorted out between us and also do the inspection. Payment will be in form of a wire transfer, if this alright I will need the following information and details to make payment arrangement Bank Name & Bank Address Beneficiary Name Account Number & Routine Number Here is the information you are to make the invoice: INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS 162 Moorside Road, Downham, Bromley, Kent. BRI 5ET Phone: +44-701-113-2553 Send me the following information as soon as possible. Regards Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:47:26 PM PST US From: Bill VonDane Subject: RV-List: P-51 Sorry for the off topic post.....but I am in need of a P-51 expert... I need some switches and controls identified in a P-51D cockpit... I am building a panel for a T-51 and want to make it as authentic as possible... Thanks! -Bill VonDane ePanel Builder bill@epanelbuilder.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:33:23 PM PST US From: Larry Pardue Subject: Re: RV-List: P-51 Go to http://www.lulu.com/content/274751 and preview the flight manual. There are photos of the panel and sides of the cockpit with a legend. Larry Pardue On Mar 18, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Bill VonDane wrote: > > Sorry for the off topic post.....but I am in need of a P-51 expert... > > I need some switches and controls identified in a P-51D cockpit... > I am building a panel for a T-51 and want to make it as authentic > as possible... > > Thanks! > -Bill VonDane > ePanel Builder > bill@epanelbuilder.com > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:56 PM PST US From: "Jack Hilditch" Subject: RE: RV-List: P-51 Bill, Try this one at the National Museum of the US Air Force: http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/photos/index.asp?galleryID=2283&page=7 Jack Hilditch wmjack@t3cs.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill VonDane Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: RV-List: P-51 Sorry for the off topic post.....but I am in need of a P-51 expert... I need some switches and controls identified in a P-51D cockpit... I am building a panel for a T-51 and want to make it as authentic as possible... Thanks! -Bill VonDane ePanel Builder bill@epanelbuilder.com do not archive -- Checked by AVG. AM ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:57 PM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RE: RV-List: P-51 Hi Bill, These guys should have a clue... http://www.stallion51.com/ DavdB RV6 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill VonDane Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: RV-List: P-51 Sorry for the off topic post.....but I am in need of a P-51 expert... I need some switches and controls identified in a P-51D cockpit... I am building a panel for a T-51 and want to make it as authentic as possible... Thanks! -Bill VonDane ePanel Builder bill@epanelbuilder.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:49 PM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: RV-List: TCW Technologies / Safety-Trim special announcement Fellow RV builders, We are please to announce that Van's Aircraft, Inc. has become a distributor of our series of Safety-Trim products and accessories. Our products are now available through their Online Web Catalog at www.vansaircraft.com. Safety-Trim is the electronic trim controller that improves the safety and performance of the electric trim servos used in the RV series of aircraft. Additionally, TCW Technologies will be at Sun-n-Fun this year at outdoor booth N-96. We welcome you and would especially like to personally thank all those who have already purchased our products. If you are unfamiliar with our products please come see our working demo unit and try out Safety-Trim for yourself. We also have an exciting new product announcement to make at Sun-n-Fun. Best regards, Bob Newman (40176 almost to the glass work!) TCW Technologies www.tcwtech.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:25 PM PST US From: Don Diehl Subject: Re: RV-List: Evil Replies A few years ago I had my C-170A up for sale and got a bite from South Africa. After several months of email exchanges, including photos of the families and dogs he transferred $40k to my account. Only then did I do the Export Certificate of Airworthiness, take it apart and deliver it to the Port of Seattle. See this lovely old bird at Airliners.com, registration ZS-PJD. So, you never can tell. Don Diehl RV-4, N28EW Do not archive. On Mar 18, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Dave Reel wrote: > Here's an email that I believe is an evil attempt to steal rather > than buy. What do you think? Couldn't this guy use the info to > withdraw from my account? > > Dave Reel > Thanks you for the prompt response to my mail enquiry i'm quite > satisfied with the condition and price.I'm very much interested in > buying from you and i would like to make an outright purchase > immediately so i will advice that you withdraw the advert from the > web.I will be paying with wire transfer, if this alright. > > > Furthermore my mover will be coming over for the pick up as i might > not be available for the pick up myself i would have loved to come > and look it up but presently i'm not chanced to do that but am OK > with the information from the ad.He will get in touch with you as > soon as payment has been sorted out between us and also do the > inspection. Payment will be in form of a wire transfer, if this > alright > > I will need the following information and details to make payment > arrangement > > Bank Name & Bank Address > Beneficiary Name > Account Number & Routine Number > > Here is the information you are to make the invoice: > INDUTRIAL SOLUTIONS > 162 Moorside Road, > Downham, Bromley, Kent. > BRI 5ET > Phone: +44-701-113-2553 > > Send me the following information as soon as possible. > > > Regards > > > Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails auf dem Handy.. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.