---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/15/08: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:38 AM - Re: Cowling hinges (John Barrett) 2. 06:49 AM - Re: Off topic and off the list (N395V) 3. 07:53 AM - list member or guest? (Dale Ensing) 4. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: Off topic and off the list (Bob) 5. 08:48 AM - Re: list member or guest? (Brian Meyette) 6. 09:03 AM - Re: Cowling hinges (Glaeser, Dennis A) 7. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Cowling hinges (scott bilinski) 8. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Cowling hinges (Jim) 9. 11:49 AM - Re: Sun N Fun Review (WILLIAM AGSTER) 10. 01:25 PM - Re: list member or guest? (N395V) 11. 02:34 PM - Re: AD compliance / applicability (Glen Matejcek) 12. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: list member or guest? (Dale Ensing) 13. 03:14 PM - Fw: RV8a Air Intake Seperates (Trevor) 14. 03:19 PM - RV8-List: Re: RV8- Sikaflex Canopy Info (Carl Bell) 15. 05:23 PM - Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A (John Fasching) 16. 05:55 PM - Tire size distinction. (Knicholas2@aol.com) 17. 05:57 PM - Re: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A (Ron Lee) 18. 06:17 PM - Re: Tire size distinction. (Vanremog@aol.com) 19. 06:45 PM - Re: Tire size distinction. (Ron Lee) 20. 06:45 PM - Re: Tire size distinction. (Sam Buchanan) 21. 07:11 PM - Re: list member or guest? (Richard E. Tasker) 22. 07:57 PM - Re: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A (Craig Hagen) 23. 07:57 PM - Re: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A (Randy Lervold) 24. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: Cowling hinges (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 25. 09:18 PM - Re: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A (Fiveonepw@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:36 AM PST US From: "John Barrett" <2thman@cablespeed.com> Subject: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges John Testement wrote: I am really having a hard time getting the cowling hinges to go in. I believe some eyelets may have been bent a little out of alignment during paint prep. I would like to hear what others have done to realign the hinges and get hinge pins to go in more easily. The horse is out of the barn, so I'm sorry not to be able to help you easily solve the problem unless you're willing to replace the hinges, but I think this is one more reason to use Carbinge graphite hinges rather than the aluminum. You can't ding them or bend the eyelets. Regards, John Barrett, CEO Leading Edge Composites PO Box 428 Port Hadlock, WA 98339 www.carbinge.com Checked by AVG. 9:26 AM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:38 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Off topic and off the list From: "N395V" > Don't read it!" the whiners say. Actually, most of > us joined > "How did you like SnF?", > rv7(at)b4.ca > Guest > I really love people who tell us how long they have been valuable contributers but are still listed as guests. I guess filling out the profile is not RV related. What terrible punishment to suffer when one of the unregistered thought police quits the list. So Rob as one of the whiners you can just kiss my ass. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=176939#176939 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:53 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: RV-List: list member or guest? What profile are you referrring to Milt? I have been on the list since 1996 and don't remember any profile. Maybe it has been so long and my old brain erased that memory. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: RV-List: Re: Off topic and off the list > I really love people who tell us how long they have been valuable > contributers but are still listed as guests. I guess filling out the > profile is not RV related. > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:25 AM PST US From: Bob Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Off topic and off the list >I really love people who tell us how long they have been valuable >contributers but are still listed as guests. I guess filling out the >profile is not RV related. > >What terrible punishment to suffer when one of the unregistered >thought police quits the list. What profile? A few comments on the state of the list. 1. Back when the list started, RVs were a lot, lot less pre-fabbed. 2. Back when I started building the plans and instructions were good, but in the last 15 years they have gotten much better. 3. When I was building there were no or very few "how to" pictures on the Web, now a builder does not have to travel to see a built RV to understand how to do something, he can view it on the Web. 4. As the RV kits become more of an assembly process, there are a lot less questions on how to do things. 5. When I was building and I had a question that I called Van's for an answer, about part A not fitting to part B, the answer was "Make It Fit"!!!!!??! Now you can ask the RV list and get a thousand of replies and probably one will have the answer you are looking for. I can understand the frustration that new builders have. They want a list with just the answers that they are searching for. But, to keep the knowledgeable people on the list, there has to be something in it for them (like how did things go at SnF). I often do not provide "builder how to info" because how I built my RV in 1995 is not how they are necessarily built now? Besides, my kit is not even offered anymore, it is obsolete, OBE, a legacy, a has been! I still really like it, especially how it flies. I have often felt that I could have finished my RV two years sooner if I had not been on the list. It would not have been as good a product, and I stayed on the list by choice. This is the same choice everyone else gets to make. I don't think the list cares if someone quits with the intent of punishing the list. Sometimes I think the list is being punished by those who stay on it (like maybe me and this post??), just kidding!!?! Bob RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West" ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:14 AM PST US From: "Brian Meyette" Subject: RE: RV-List: list member or guest? I think it's the difference between people who are on via their email and people who are on via the web software - profiles & other info/options only show up for people using the web software -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: RV-List: list member or guest? What profile are you referrring to Milt? I have been on the list since 1996 and don't remember any profile. Maybe it has been so long and my old brain erased that memory. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: RV-List: Re: Off topic and off the list > I really love people who tell us how long they have been valuable > contributers but are still listed as guests. I guess filling out the > profile is not RV related. > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket Checked by AVG. AM Checked by AVG. AM ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:05 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" -------------------------- John Testement wrote: I am really having a hard time getting the cowling hinges to go in. I believe some eyelets may have been bent a little out of alignment during paint prep. I would like to hear what others have done to realign the hinges and get hinge pins to go in more easily. -------------------------- I used my Dremel tool with a ball-end shaped bit about 1/8" dia. and 'dished' the ends of my eyelets. That made a dramatic improvement for inserting the pins in my cowl. If that doesn't help enough, I'd suggest inserting the pins in the cowl when off the plane - where you can see if any eyelets are out of alignment, or at least where the pin gets hung up. Dennis Glaeser ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:05 AM PST US From: scott bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges Vans sells a hinge pin that is slightly undersize, do not used the hinge pin that came with the hinge. The first time I installed mine they were difficult also. I put a point on the pin then placed it in a drill in a drill and they went right in. After a few hours of flight they will go in and out eaisy. Scott RV-8a ----- Original Message ---- From: John Barrett <2thman@cablespeed.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:33:51 AM Subject: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges John Testement wrote: I am really having a hard time getting the cowling hinges to go in. I believe some eyelets may have been bent a little out of alignment during paint prep. I would like to hear what others have done to realign the hinges and get hinge pins to go in more easily. The horse is out of the barn, so I'm sorry not to be able to help you easily solve the problem unless you're willing to replace the hinges, but I think this is one more reason to use Carbinge graphite hinges rather than the aluminum. You can't ding them or bend the eyelets. Regards, John Barrett, CEO Leading Edge Composites PO Box 428 Port Hadlock, WA 98339 www.carbinge.com Checked by AVG. 9:26 AM Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:31 AM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: Re: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges Hi John, I found that squeezing the rivets during installation distorted the hinge eyelets enough to make installing the pins very difficult. My solution as follows: Tools; A small light ball peen hammer and a 1/8th" or 3/16th" drift pin punch. The pins on mine are installed from the rear on my 6-A. this meant that I had to stand the taped together cowling halves on their nose. I put them on some padding for damage control. If your pins install from the front you will need some saw horses and a short stool. A helper to keep the cowling from slipping off the sawhorses will likely be needed as well. Assemble the two cowling halves with masking tape insert the pins in as far as they will easily go. look closely at the eyelets that the point where the pin jams. Using the punch and hammer and only as much force as is needed gently tap the offending eyelet into alignment. Push the pin in to the next jamb point repeat this process until the hinge pin again moves easily enough. Then move on again. I first tried to do this without the drift punch and found the punch offered much better control. Since doing this procedure the pins install bare handed with out struggle and there are no visible signs of stress in any of the eyelets or on the pins. I only have 50 hours on GIIG so its a bit early to see such stresses anyhow. I hope this helps, Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Barrett" <2thman@cablespeed.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges > > John Testement wrote: I am really having a hard time getting the cowling > hinges to go in. I believe some eyelets may have been bent a little out of > alignment during paint prep. I would like to hear what others have done to > realign the hinges and get hinge pins to go in more easily. > > The horse is out of the barn, so I'm sorry not to be able to help you > easily > solve the problem unless you're willing to replace the hinges, but I think > this is one more reason to use Carbinge graphite hinges rather than the > aluminum. You can't ding them or bend the eyelets. > > > Regards, > > John Barrett, CEO > Leading Edge Composites > PO Box 428 > Port Hadlock, WA 98339 > www.carbinge.com > > > Checked by AVG. > 9:26 AM > > > -- > Checked by AVG. > 4/15/2008 9:12 AM > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:09 AM PST US From: "WILLIAM AGSTER" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sun N Fun Review Dale, Good video. Thanks for thinking of us. Bill 7A Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Walter To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Sun N Fun Review Here is my video of the Thunderbirds, Patty Flagstaff, and a few others. Dedicated to those that missed it, especially due to weather or high fuel cost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5lsWBkI3es The flagmen on the taxiways looked tired to me, I am thankful I don't have to do it. One parker did me a great service on my arrival, another at departure did his best to make me forget that but failed. Hope you enjoy the video, Dale RV6a (N241BD) 1000+ hrs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- // Several friends are stuck in S. GA waiting on better winds... Kyle Boatright 2001 RV-6 N46KB ----- Original Message ----- From: Eddie Moran To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: RV-List: Sun N Fun Review Not impressed. Volunteers running the taxi squad mostly confused both in an out. Friends have the same stories. I camped with HBC and surrounded by RV's. All cool looking by the way. My Moose had 3 DC-3's taxi by with their wings over my aircrafts nose all the way to the wing? WTFO? When I went to leave Sunday, they sent me the wrong way twice. Adding about 20 min to my taxi time. Mass confusion IMHO. Any other observations? http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:25 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: list member or guest? From: "N395V" Dale Ensing wrote: > What profile are you referrring to Milt? I have been on the list since 1996 > and don't remember any profile. Maybe it has been so long and my old brain > erased that memory. > Dale > --- Dale if you are browsing it as a forum there is a link in the header titled profile where you can post some info about yourself and customize how your posts appear. Below is the profile you filled out in January of 2006 Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Total posts: 409 [0.24% of total / 0.50 posts per day] Find all posts by Dale Ensing Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC Website: Occupation: Retired National Accounts Mgr Interests: Sailing I remember filling one out back in 2002 before it was available as a forum. Not that there are any advantages to filling in the profile it is just nice to know a little about someone whose advice you might be accepting and it helps to know total posts as a more active member is likely a more active or knowledgeable builder. That is assuming those posts appear to offer some degree of expertise. As a guest there is no way of knowing how long someone has been around and weighing their contribution. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177035#177035 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:18 PM PST US From: Glen Matejcek Subject: RV-List: Re: AD compliance / applicability Having a bad day, Linn? Clearly, you misunderstood my post. Let me recap it in small sound bites: 1-AD's don't apply to experimentals, per FAA legal in DC as well as EAA HQ. 2-AD's MUST be addressed. To understand the difference between these two statements, read the original post. 3-I have never said anything remotely like ".... position that you don't have to heed the ADs." What I said was "The foregoing does not relieve us of our requirements to address AD's. We do not have to comply with an AD, but we do have to address an AD." 4-With regard to: "I really don't care if Glen (or any anti AD person) doesn't want to take the ADs as a heads up ..... but I do take offense at them trying to lead others down that path with the 'ADs don't apply' mantra." Actually, I care. A lot. That's why I tried to not only point out that this needs to be done, but whys and wherefores of it, and all the time knowing full well in advance that there is always the possibility of being on the recieving end of someone's tirade. On a more personal note, I subscribe to the AD's appropriate to my equipment. As one of our best contemporary philosophers put it: "Stupid is as stupid does" Or should I say RTFP? > >Time: 06:25:54 PM PST US >From: linn Walters >Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: AD compliance / applicability > > >I'm amazed at the way we try and beat a dead horse. Glen takes a piece >of documentation that's clearly for LSA (as he so kindly pointed out) >and wants to apply it to ALL experimental aircraft to justify the stupid >.... yeah, I said stupid .... position that you don't have to heed the >ADs. For what purpose??? Who needs a specific directive on whether ADs >apply to experimental aircraft???? Doesn't common sense suffice as a >reason??? The FAA doesn't appear to want to enforce the ADs .... which >makes it a moot point if you ignore the AD that makes your butt history >amongst the living. However, if you take someone with you, I'm sure >your survivors will not talk kindly of you when the lawyer starts >talking about your total lack of comprehension when you certified that >your airplane is airworthy when you take off. I've said before .... if >you want to impress someone with your knowledge of all things aviation >..... then you need not worry about the ADs ..... and explain how your >superior knowledge makes an AD not apply. The FAA isn't a proactive >organization. It's reactive. (Thank God!) and there's bound to be loss >of life (or a high potential for it) for them to issue the AD. So, just >go out there and ignore all the ADs. You'll be the reason that ADs are >mandated for experimentals too. > >I don't know Glen personally ..... or if he's playing devils advocate >here .... but the bottom line is that ADs are there to protect your butt >...... and mine too, and to try and lower the accident rate which we pay >dearly for. > >I really don't care if Glen (or any anti AD person) doesn't want to take >the ADs as a heads up ..... but I do take offense at them trying to lead >others down that path with the 'ADs don't apply' mantra. > >Sorry for the rant, but I think ignoring the ADs is a stupid pilot trick. >Linn ..... working through the fuselage. > > >glen matejcek wrote: > >> >>Hi All- >> >>Well, believe it or not, and with the help of EAA's regulatory liaison, >>I've gotten to the bottom of the whole AD / Amateur Built Experimental >>issue. Really. >> >>But first: The FAA can't agree internally on the subject. Elements within >>the FAA say they do apply, others say they don't, and yet a third faction >>says they don't apply but should. And, get this, AC 39-7c is (legally >>speaking) incorrect. Go figure. One reason the relevant documents have >>not been cleaned up and clarified is that the FAA seems to want us to >>believe that AD's do apply in order to increase the likelihood of our >>taking corrective action when they are issued. >> >>The highest horsepower document on the subject comes to us from the Federal >>Register. The fact that this document is in the register is what causes it >>to trump all the other documents and opinions on the subject. The document >>itself is all about LSA's, and it contains a table entitled Light-Sport >>Aircraft Maintenance and Certification Requirements located within section >>IV, Comparative Tables. This particular table compares the maintenance >>and certification requirements of six different categories of aircraft, >>including amateur built. It can be accessed at: >> >>http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFinalRule.nsf/c03aa95a6 >>d5f3d57852564720071b601/1d47971728e12ba286256edf004385aa!OpenDocument >> >>Now, should one choose to look up the comparative data in this document, at >>the cross reference of Amateur built and Airworthiness Directives, one >>would find the wording leaves some room for ambiguity. However, if one >>were to look at the adjacent entries for the various other certification >>categories, the intent becomes quite clear. AD's are not issued against >>our planes, nor anything installed in them. >> >>The foregoing does not relieve us of our requirements to address AD's. We >>do not have to comply with an AD, but we do have to address an AD. For >>example, the recent RSA AD calls for an A&P to do the work to be in >>compliance. If I do the work myself, I will have addressed the AD without >>being in compliance, as I am not an A&P. If we fail to address an AD, >>either as owner / operator doing the work or as repairman / A&P performing >>the condition inspection, we are liable for violation under the careless >>and reckless provisions of part 91 of the FAR's, but not under part 39. >> >>Now, don't ask me to rationalize all the conflicting info available to us, >>what one guy said, or the hard time one of us got from a particular fed. >>At this point in time, the above represents the official position of the >>folks at the top of the food chain. >> >>Bon appetit! >> >>glen matejcek >>aerobubba@earthlink.net Glen Matejcek ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:45 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: list member or guest? Thanks Milt. Dale do not achieve ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: RV-List: Re: list member or guest? > > > Dale Ensing wrote: >> What profile are you referrring to Milt? I have been on the list since >> 1996 >> and don't remember any profile. Maybe it has been so long and my old >> brain >> erased that memory. >> Dale ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:19 PM PST US From: "Trevor" Subject: Fw: RV-List: RV8a Air Intake Seperates I haven't flown my -7 yet, but after hours of re-modelling the intake and giving it a nice paint job, (it was too wide and the intake had to be rotated 90 deg) I accidently dropped it while trying to mount it. Lo and behold - it split both its seams! Popped open all along the glued surfaces! The later kits have far superior ducts now and they just about fit as well! Trevor RV-7 South Africa One 90% done, second about 40% ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV8a Air Intake Seperates Well, I think I might have the same duct. My RV-7 was built in '04 and I'm the second owner. It has the IO-360 with a forward facing intake using a fiberglass duct that goes up to the bottom of the air intake on the left side of the cowl. I think it looks great with the smooth bottom cowl. I've not noticed any cracks yet. I'm at 280 hrs. Will keep a lookout. I do wonder if that is the best sort of arrangement, though. I don't think I get enough MP and TAS. (Are we ever satisfied?) Greg RV9A 60% done, but then I found a beautiful RV-7 to buy and fly!!! On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:10 PM, FASTPILOTRV8 wrote: RV8a intake duck splits at the seams on both side. I have a RV8a completed in 2002 and am on my second problem with my Air intake . I have the type that picks up fresh air on the left side of the cowling next to front mount prop governor (not in the center below the prop). Here is what happened this time during my condition inspection, I notice a crack on either side of the fiberglass duct that takes the intake air to my Bendix servo. I removed the fiberglass duct to find it was originally made in two pieces and was glued together. Well so much for the gluing process, it has literally has come apart at the seams. I was wondering if any one else has had this problem? If not please check your own intakes at about 375 hours. I have one of the first quick build kits to come off the boat and I am not quite sure where the fiberglass parts are made? My RV8a is a tightly cowled around IO-360 and the intake duct did rub on the lower cowl at shut down . I have cut out some of the S-Glass to make a little more clearance. Just and FYI if you have my type of air intake Dane RV8a ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get the MapQuest Toolbar, Maps, Traffic, Directions & More! ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:19 PM PST US From: "Carl Bell" Subject: RV-List: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Sikaflex Canopy Info Hi I am also working on my canopy and would like the use Sika. Has anyone out their done it on an RV 7 or RV 9 slider using the horizontal square side tube that runs from the forward bow the rear bow? If so out did you attach the canopy skirt with out drilling? Any help is really appreciated. I have printed all the articles, instruction and list information, but I mostly find RV 8 instructions. I could really use some help on how to do it on a RV 7 Slider. Thanks CJ _____ From: owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of japhillipsga@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: RV8-List: Re: RV8- Sikaflex Canopy Info Dear Builders, I'm going to use Sika adhesive to attach my canopy. Todd's canopy's has a couple page DIY instructions from Bob & Karen Brown that describes the U295, cleaner and primer process. When I found the Sika products on the web there are various cleaners and primers listed and the only 295 is listed as 295UV not U295. I understand you have to have the correct three products. Who out there knows is 295UV the same as U295 ? and which primer and cleaner is appropriate for the canopy and 295 adhesive? 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I do not have a temperature problem but I know there is a build up of pressure in that area and I wondered if allowing more 'escape' area for the cooling air from across the cylinder heads would not reduce cooling drag and perhaps give me a minor bit of speed increase, or if not, then the ability to operate in REALLY hot climates with full power and have lots of cooling air flow. Also, those who have done this, how did you mount the lourvers? Just rivet them on the exterior of the lower cowl, inside the cowling, or do some inletting, or what? Other observations? You comments/experience would be appreciated. RV6A flying now 13-years. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:53 PM PST US From: Knicholas2@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Tire size distinction. Here is a dumb question.... The nose wheel on my RV9A went flat and I needed a tire and tube in a hurry. The size on the tire that I got from Van's reads 11 x 4.00 -5. I tried to find a Michelin or Goodyear tire but everyone I called was confused by the size distinction. So.... is there some magic secret code or conversion when buying a different brand of tire ? What is the equivilant tire size in Michelin or Goodyear? Thanks, Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:42 PM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A These are #8 bolts I believe with washer and nut on the inside: http://home.pcisys.net/~ronlee/RV6A/Cowl_Louver_Small.jpg Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:05 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Tire size distinction. In a message dated 4/15/2008 5:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Knicholas2@aol.com writes: The nose wheel on my RV9A went flat and I needed a tire and tube in a hurry. The size on the tire that I got from Van's reads 11 x 4.00 -5. I tried to find a Michelin or Goodyear tire but everyone I called was confused by the size distinction. So.... is there some magic secret code or conversion when buying a different brand of tire ? What is the equivalent tire size in Michelin or Goodyear? ============================================ The only known ones I am aware of are Lamb (I think now obsolete) and Cheng Shin, and 11X4.00-5 6-ply is the correct designation. ACS has them. Change the tube too. N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 887hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:04 PM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: Tire size distinction. Suggestion: Always have a spare main/nose tire and tube. I always take that when I travel. Ron Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: Knicholas2@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:49 PM Subject: RV-List: Tire size distinction. Here is a dumb question.... The nose wheel on my RV9A went flat and I needed a tire and tube in a hurry. The size on the tire that I got from Van's reads 11 x 4.00 -5. I tried to find a Michelin or Goodyear tire but everyone I called was confused by the size distinction. So.... is there some magic secret code or conversion when buying a different brand of tire ? What is the equivilant tire size in Michelin or Goodyear? Thanks, Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:08 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Tire size distinction. Vanremog@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/15/2008 5:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > Knicholas2@aol.com writes: > > The nose wheel on my RV9A went flat and I needed a tire and tube in a hurry. > The size on the tire that I got from Van's reads 11 x 4.00 -5. I tried > to find a Michelin or Goodyear tire but everyone I called was confused by the > size distinction. > > So.... is there some magic secret code or conversion when buying a > different brand of tire ? What is the equivalent tire size in Michelin or Goodyear? > > > > ============================================ > > The only known ones I am aware of are Lamb (I think now obsolete) and Cheng > Shin, and 11X4.00-5 6-ply is the correct designation. ACS has them. > > Change the tube too. And by all means carry a spare tube in the plane! Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:29 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: RV-List: list member or guest? What it actually is is that, if you look at the registrations, anyone who signed up before January 2006 probably does not have a profile - because there was no such thing before then. So for those of us who have been on the lists longer than that we are not listed (unless one registered again). So I will probably show up as a guest - even though I have been reading and posting since early 2002. Dick Tasker Do not archive Brian Meyette wrote: > > I think it's the difference between people who are on via their email and > people who are on via the web software - profiles & other info/options only > show up for people using the web software > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:50 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: list member or guest? > > > What profile are you referrring to Milt? I have been on the list since 1996 > and don't remember any profile. Maybe it has been so long and my old brain > erased that memory. > Dale > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "N395V" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:45 AM > Subject: RV-List: Re: Off topic and off the list > > > >> I really love people who tell us how long they have been valuable >> contributers but are still listed as guests. I guess filling out the >> profile is not RV related. >> Milt >> 2003 F1 Rocket >> 2006 Radial Rocket >> > > > Checked by AVG. > AM > > > Checked by AVG. > AM > > > > -- Please Note: No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede, however, that a significant number of electrons may have been temporarily inconvenienced. -- ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:33 PM PST US From: "Craig Hagen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A John, This was just finished on my RV6A this past week. I was having a CHT and oil temp problem so it was part of the remedy plan. The outside air temps are not high enough to verify success, however. I wanted to install the louvers on the inside of the cowl but the thickness of the fiberglass honeycomb on the bottom looked like it would be a problem as to final finished look (my plane is painted). The louvers were installed on the bottom, outside of the cowl. I had the louvers powder coated to a color very close to my a/c paint color, beveled the edges and used screws with locking nuts. Before installation, I put rtv over the open cut of the honeycomb. I also added additional heat shield material in side the cowl and over the honeycomb and onto the outside of the cowl (but under the louver). I just don't want the heat to attack the open honeycomb of the fiberglass. I purchased my louvers from Alex D. Hope this helps. Craig Hagen N289CH RV6A 420 hours ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "John Fasching" >I am considering putting the louvers that Avery (and perhaps others) sell on the bottom cowling of my RV6A. I do not have a temperature problem but I know there is a build up of pressure in that area and I wondered if allowing more 'escape' area for the cooling air from across the cylinder heads would not reduce cooling drag and perhaps give me a minor bit of speed increase, or if not, then the ability to operate in REALLY hot climates with full power and have lots of cooling air flow. > >Also, those who have done this, how did you mount the lourvers? Just rivet them on the exterior of the lower cowl, inside the cowling, or do some inletting, or what? Other observations? > >You comments/experience would be appreciated. > >RV6A flying now 13-years. > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at hagenrealestate.com ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:35 PM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: Re: RV-List: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A See page 6 of this newsletter... http://www.eaa105.org/Newsletter/nl-200709.pdf Randy Lervold www.rv3works.com ----- Original Message ----- From: John Fasching To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: RV-List: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A I am considering putting the louvers that Avery (and perhaps others) sell on the bottom cowling of my RV6A. I do not have a temperature problem but I know there is a build up of pressure in that area and I wondered if allowing more 'escape' area for the cooling air from across the cylinder heads would not reduce cooling drag and perhaps give me a minor bit of speed increase, or if not, then the ability to operate in REALLY hot climates with full power and have lots of cooling air flow. Also, those who have done this, how did you mount the lourvers? Just rivet them on the exterior of the lower cowl, inside the cowling, or do some inletting, or what? Other observations? You comments/experience would be appreciated. RV6A flying now 13-years. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:46 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: re: Cowling hinges In a message dated 04/15/2008 8:40:17 AM Central Daylight Time, 2thman@cablespeed.com writes: John Testement wrote: I am really having a hard time getting the cowling hinges to go in. I believe some eyelets may have been bent a little out of alignment during paint prep. I would like to hear what others have done to realign the hinges and get hinge pins to go in more easily. >>> Aluminum hinge eyes can be easily bent back into alignment- if the pin easily slides through both halves of the cowling individually, then what you have is something preventing the eyes from each hinge half from aligning. Carefully look for anything between each eye that may prevent this- one telltale is a dark spot where the opposite hinge half is rubbing on the other part. >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo" almost 500 hours with cowl and wingtips attached with good 'ol aluminum hinge... _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:42 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Louvers on the bottom of the cowling on RV6A In a message dated 04/15/2008 7:27:00 PM Central Daylight Time, n1cxo320@salidaco.com writes: I am considering putting the louvers that Avery (and perhaps others) sell on the bottom cowling >>> On my -6A, I opted for a simple cover plate held by 4 platenuts to cover the slot aft of the nose leg vs. the complicated mechanisms described in the manual for the pivoting cover and associated bracketry. I believe this allowed better airflow due to nothing interfering with exit air in the area. Cools fine, but only 150 hp. _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5289_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5289) I recently worked on a -7A with an IO-360 using a Vetterman rear-crossover system. While discussing the rear hangars with Larry Vetterman himself, he claimed that the only way they could get sufficient cooling on this system (nose OR taildragger) was to add the louvers. After ruminating on this a bit, I instead fabricated a small plate at the rear of the gearleg slot that literally "spreads" the slot wider- this causes the cowling outlet to curve downward, increasing the size of the opening about 10-15%, I'd estimate. Platenuts on each side of the plate are used to tie the cowl halves together and also serve as rear mounting points for the Fairings-etc. nosegear intersection fairing. This Florida-based -7A has no cooling issues so far... >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. 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