---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/24/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:38 AM - Wiggly Cotter pins (Ralph E. Capen) 2. 07:16 AM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Dave) 3. 07:22 AM - Re: Wiggly Cotter pins (David Leonard) 4. 07:42 AM - Re: Wiggly Cotter pins (Ralph E. Capen) 5. 07:43 AM - Fw: [RV Builders] Re: Wiggly Cotter pins (Ralph E. Capen) 6. 07:58 AM - Re: Wiggly Cotter pins (Charles Kuss) 7. 08:09 AM - Re: Wiggly Cotter pins (Jim) 8. 08:30 AM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (John Fasching) 9. 08:55 AM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Sam Buchanan) 10. 10:53 AM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Dave) 11. 11:12 AM - Re: Wiggly Cotter pins (Vinnfizz@aol.com) 12. 12:39 PM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Sam Buchanan) 13. 02:24 PM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Mike Divan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:26 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins One of my four engine mount bolt cotter pins wiggles a bit - it is set like the other three. I've re-done it a bunch of times - so either it is technique for this particular bolt...or there's something wrong with the setup. I'm using the same size pin for all four bolts. I'm really thinking it is my technique. According to the 43.13 the head should fit snug - which I take to mean that they shouldn't wiggle. Conceptually, I think the wiggling could lead to friction erosion of the pin - with a potential for failure. Maybe, I need to do this one using the other method for setting them - I've been trying to bend one leg over the top and the other down - I may try the 'anchor' method as shown in the 43.13. Somebody tell me that I'm not out of my mind with my anal-retentiveness..... Ralph Capen RV6AQB Slider N822AR @ N06 Knocking out the million little things..... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:45 AM PST US From: Dave Subject: RE: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS > Thanks for the responses regarding the Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS. I guess it is new enough on the market that their haven't been alot of opinions formed yet. It sure seems to have a lot of features for the money. I understand the bluetooth connection can be an issue, but I am not looking for that feature as I will be using it as a portable unit in a (sorry to mention this on this list :-)) Cessna 140 for mostly local flights. Thanks Dave RV-8 tailkit ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:35 AM PST US From: "David Leonard" Subject: Re: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins > > Somebody tell me that I'm not out of my mind with my > anal-retentiveness..... > > Ralph Capen > RV6AQB Slider N822AR @ N06 > Knocking out the million little things..... > > Unfortunately Ralph, I think you are out or your mind with A.R. Sorry. They have rehab you know. :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:01 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins Thanks David.......I'll start the twelve-step program right after I get flying....... -----Original Message----- >From: David Leonard >Sent: Apr 24, 2008 10:19 AM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins > >> >> Somebody tell me that I'm not out of my mind with my >> anal-retentiveness..... >> >> Ralph Capen >> RV6AQB Slider N822AR @ N06 >> Knocking out the million little things..... >> >> >> >Unfortunately Ralph, I think you are out or your mind with A.R. Sorry. >They have rehab you know. :-) >-- >David Leonard > >Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY >http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net >http://RotaryRoster.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:02 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: Fw: [RV Builders] Re: Wiggly Cotter pins Here's what I got from another list - I'll probably go with this one as it cures the issue that I have......... -----Forwarded Message----- >From: rhodeseng >Sent: Apr 24, 2008 9:17 AM >To: RV7A@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [RV Builders] Re: Wiggly Cotter pins > >put some RTV on it and move forward > >cary > > >--- In RV7A@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph E. Capen" wrote: >> >> One of my four engine mount bolt cotter pins wiggles a bit - it is >set like the other three. >> >> I've re-done it a bunch of times - so either it is technique for >this particular bolt...or there's something wrong with the setup. >I'm using the same size pin for all four bolts. I'm really thinking >it is my technique. >> >> According to the 43.13 the head should fit snug - which I take to >mean that they shouldn't wiggle. Conceptually, I think the wiggling >could lead to friction erosion of the pin - with a potential for >failure. >> >> Maybe, I need to do this one using the other method for setting >them - I've been trying to bend one leg over the top and the other >down - I may try the 'anchor' method as shown in the 43.13. >> >> Somebody tell me that I'm not out of my mind with my anal- >retentiveness..... >> >> Ralph Capen >> RV6AQB Slider N822AR @ N06 >> Knocking out the million little things..... >> > > >------------------------------------ > >Want more RV news? Sign up for the RV Builder's Hotline. It's free! >http://rvhotline.expercraft.comYahoo! Groups Links > ><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV7A/ > ><*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > ><*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV7A/join > (Yahoo! 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Capen > Subject: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins > To: "rv-list" , "lycoming engine list" > Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 8:33 AM > > > One of my four engine mount bolt cotter pins wiggles a bit > - it is set like the other three. > > I've re-done it a bunch of times - so either it is > technique for this particular bolt...or there's > something wrong with the setup. I'm using the same > size pin for all four bolts. I'm really thinking it is > my technique. > > According to the 43.13 the head should fit snug - which I > take to mean that they shouldn't wiggle. Conceptually, > I think the wiggling could lead to friction erosion of the > pin - with a potential for failure. > > Maybe, I need to do this one using the other method for > setting them - I've been trying to bend one leg over > the top and the other down - I may try the 'anchor' > method as shown in the 43.13. > > Somebody tell me that I'm not out of my mind with my > anal-retentiveness..... > > Ralph Capen > RV6AQB Slider N822AR @ N06 > Knocking out the million little things..... > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:17 AM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: Re: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins Hi Ralph, A little dab of some RTV or some such sealer should stop the rattling cotter pin well enough. Of course anyone seeing that little dab of RTV will immediately Know for sure that you are out of your mind with your anal-retentiveness....{[;-) Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: David Leonard To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins Somebody tell me that I'm not out of my mind with my anal-retentiveness..... Ralph Capen RV6AQB Slider N822AR @ N06 Knocking out the million little things..... Unfortunately Ralph, I think you are out or your mind with A.R. Sorry. They have rehab you know. :-) -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 4/24/2008 7:24 AM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:29 AM PST US From: "John Fasching" Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS I don't know what dismal reviews you saw, but here's an opposite viewpoint. I have been using Anywhere Map for several years. As with any company there have been 'growing pains' and some bugs in new software issues. Their latest seems to be a solid software platform. I use Anywhere Map with XMWX and it is absolutely solid and trouble free. I get almost immediate weather data from XM and the full color moving map is quite nice. I use different GPS (paired to the Anywhere Map) units to control the autopilot and hands-off flying using their system is a real joy. One thing to look at is data updates. For around $90/year I get aeronautical data updates every 28-days and no longer buy sectional maps. Software updates to AWM are also without cost. There seems to be several moving map units on the market all with their virtues. You pays yer money, and takes yer choice as they say. But Anywhere Map is, in my opinion, a very good value. FWIW ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:39 AM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS John Fasching wrote: > I don't know what dismal reviews you saw, but here's an opposite > viewpoint. > > I have been using Anywhere Map for several years. As with any company > there have been 'growing pains' and some bugs in new software issues. I believe the "dismal review" was in reference to the new PDA unit AWM is selling, not the software itself. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:23 AM PST US From: Dave Subject: RE: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS > I believe the "dismal review" was in reference to the new PDA unit AWM > is selling, not the software itself. > Sam Buchanan Sam, Was that the new ATC unit that was just released that got the dismal reviews? Thanks Dave ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:17 AM PST US From: Vinnfizz@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Wiggly Cotter pins Some say that is anal attentiveness! Makes for a safe and beautiful airplane! Ed **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:39:59 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS Dave wrote: > > > >> I believe the "dismal review" was in reference to the new PDA unit AWM >> is selling, not the software itself. >> Sam Buchanan > > > Sam, > > Was that the new ATC unit that was just released that got the dismal > reviews? > > Thanks > > Dave Dave, I haven't read the reviews and don't know anything about the new unit (a customized iPaq 310). I was just responding to the poster who was under the impression the less than favorable reviews referenced were concerning the software. Some Googling will surely shed some light on this device. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:40 PM PST US From: Mike Divan Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS Sorry I was not more clear the HP (Ipaq 310 I believe) unit not the Anyware map is what got the dismal reviews that I saw. Also I do not believe the new HP unit can interface with an AP. Here are some of the places I found reviews. Actually there more reviews out not then when I first looked. It seems the route calculation is what most people are not happy with. Not sure how that will affect how the Anywhere software works. Bottom line sorry I was not clear on what and where I saw the bad reviews. http://review.zdnet.com/navigation/hp-ipaq-310-travel/4505-3430_16-32595205.html http://reviews.cnet.com/car-gps-navigation/hp-ipaq-310-travel/4505-3430_7-32595205.html http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8284.html http://www.hhcmag.com/reviews/hp_ipaq_310/index.htm http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/ipaq310.php Mike Divan N64GH - RV6,flying :) SLOW 7 Builder :( EAA - 577486 FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! ----- Original Message ---- From: John Fasching Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:26:59 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS I don't know what dismal reviews you saw, but here's an opposite viewpoint. I have been using Anywhere Map for several years. As with any company there have been 'growing pains' and some bugs in new software issues. Their latest seems to be a solid software platform. I use Anywhere Map with XMWX and it is absolutely solid and trouble free. I get almost immediate weather data from XM and the full color moving map is quite nice. I use different GPS (paired to the Anywhere Map) units to control the autopilot and hands-off flying using their system is a real joy. One thing to look at is data updates. For around $90/year I get aeronautical data updates every 28-days and no longer buy sectional maps. Software updates to AWM are also without cost. There seems to be several moving map units on the market all with their virtues. You pays yer money, and takes yer choice as they say. But Anywhere Map is, in my opinion, a very good value. FWIW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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