Today's Message Index:
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1. 11:12 AM - Re: The right to fly thing (Tedd McHenry)
2. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: the money you owe me (Larry James)
3. 12:15 PM - Re: The right to fly thing (J. Mcculley)
4. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: the money you owe me (jan)
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| Subject: | Re: The right to fly thing |
Charles:
> I see its still going so heres my take. I met all the requirements to earn my
> coml, multi ticket which gives me the "right" to fly. I screw up and they can
> and will take that away for a period of time, if its bad enuf, forever.
That's a common opinion, but it's not legally or politically sound. It's
actually the other way around. Your right to fly is what enables you to have a
license, etc. You can't be denied the opportunity to qualify for a license --
it's a right. The license and qualifications exist because they define "where
my nose begins." I.e., they define a reasonable constraint on your freedom to
fly with the sole purpose of protecting everyone else's liberty.
The U.S. constitution ensures (or attempts to ensure) that is so through the
"necessary and proper" clause.
> Personally, I consider it a privledge because I am blessed with the good
> health and the skills to do so.
It's certainly wise to recognize that you are priviledged to be able to fly,
for many reasons. But if you want to be strictly correct you should say that
you're priviledged to live in a country that protects your right to fly. The
right exists regardless of where you live. The priviledge comes from living in
a place that recognizes that right.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | RE: the money you owe me |
Dale,
Thank you and right on !!!! The support I am seeing and hearing on this
puts a big smile on my face and in my chest. Thank you.
This was the only correspondence I've had from Performance to date and
nothing has yet been done. I have more in the hopper and you are right
Dale; it will explode soon unless it is rectified straight away.
Larry
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Walter
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: RE: the money you owe me
Stuart,
You need to help your company succeed. Find the strengths and build on them.
Be honest about the weaknesses and work to resolve them. If you ask people
for help, in an honest way, many would lend a hand. Larry did, and what did
you and your team do for him? This will bring out all the lurkers, there
will be no more hiding. I too have worked with ex cons, and I did my best to
get them on the right path. Do the right thing; before this explodes. Ask
your management team to send him $100 a week or even $50 and see the
difference in public support.
We want good engine builders,
Dale
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry James
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: RV-List: RE: the money you owe me
Hi Stuart,
The very fact that you are asking this speaks volumes.
The Performance Engines website calls you the Sales Manager. Holding this
position in the company and taking no action to remedy the situation defines
you as complicit. So where is my money ???
Larry E. James
425-885-1200
800-783-9782
From: SFeatherstone [mailto:stuart@performanceengines.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: the money you owe me
Larry,
Would you kindly explain.
If I do not own any part of Performance Engines.
And.
I make no financial decisions regarding any part of Performance Engines.
And.
The information provided to me comes only from the owner of Performance
Engines.
How exactly did I become a crook?
Thank you,
Stuart Featherstone
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From: Larry James [mailto:larry@ncproto.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:09 PM
Cc: 'Sara Halcomb'
Subject: the money you owe me
Importance: High
Ron and Stuart,
My public attack exposing you and your crooked business is quickly spinning
up. Within the last 1-1/2 days you have lost 3 engine sales that I am aware
of and directly responsible for. It seems people are reluctant to deal with
you because you don't return deposits for engines when you don't deliver
those engines. I am just getting started.
If you wish to control damage you can overnight me a check for the full
amount you owe me. I will not slow or halt my work exposing you until all
funds have cleared my bank.
Larry E. James
New Concepts
Redmond, WA
425-885-1200
800-783-9782
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: The right to fly thing |
GREAT!! The best-ever summary, Tedd.
Jim McCulley
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Tedd McHenry wrote:
>
> Charles:
>>I see its still going so heres my take. I met all the requirements
to earn my
>>coml, multi ticket which gives me the "right" to fly. I screw up and
they can
>>and will take that away for a period of time, if its bad enuf, forever.
>
> That's a common opinion, but it's not legally or politically sound. It's
> actually the other way around. Your right to fly is what enables you to have
a
> license, etc. You can't be denied the opportunity to qualify for a license --
> it's a right. The license and qualifications exist because they define "where
> my nose begins." I.e., they define a reasonable constraint on your freedom to
> fly with the sole purpose of protecting everyone else's liberty.
>
> The U.S. constitution ensures (or attempts to ensure) that is so through the
> "necessary and proper" clause.
>
>>Personally, I consider it a privledge because I am blessed with the good
>>health and the skills to do so.
>
> It's certainly wise to recognize that you are priviledged to be able to fly,
> for many reasons. But if you want to be strictly correct you should say that
> you're priviledged to live in a country that protects your right to fly. The
> right exists regardless of where you live. The priviledge comes from living
in
> a place that recognizes that right.
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Surrey, BC, Canada
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | RE: the money you owe me |
... Yes there is always two sides to a story..
So "Performance Engines" ... Did you get paid for a engine you have not
delivered ?? On the web you look like a real company with lots of "serious"
people" using your engines ...
So why this problem ??
Should I buy my RV6 engine from you ???
Jan ... Slowly building a RV6 ...
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry James
Sent: 02 May 2008 01:22
Subject: RV-List: RE: the money you owe me
Hi Stuart,
The very fact that you are asking this speaks volumes.
The Performance Engines website calls you the Sales Manager. Holding this
position in the company and taking no action to remedy the situation defines
you as complicit. So where is my money ???
Larry E. James
425-885-1200
800-783-9782
From: SFeatherstone [mailto:stuart@performanceengines.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: the money you owe me
Larry,
Would you kindly explain.
If I do not own any part of Performance Engines.
And.
I make no financial decisions regarding any part of Performance Engines.
And.
The information provided to me comes only from the owner of Performance
Engines.
How exactly did I become a crook?
Thank you,
Stuart Featherstone
_____
From: Larry James [mailto:larry@ncproto.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:09 PM
Cc: 'Sara Halcomb'
Subject: the money you owe me
Importance: High
Ron and Stuart,
My public attack exposing you and your crooked business is quickly spinning
up. Within the last 1-1/2 days you have lost 3 engine sales that I am aware
of and directly responsible for. It seems people are reluctant to deal with
you because you don't return deposits for engines when you don't deliver
those engines. I am just getting started.
If you wish to control damage you can overnight me a check for the full
amount you owe me. I will not slow or halt my work exposing you until all
funds have cleared my bank.
Larry E. James
New Concepts
Redmond, WA
425-885-1200
800-783-9782
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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two
sides to a story..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So “Performance
Engines” …
Did you get paid for a engine you have not delivered ?? On the
web you
look like a real company with lots of “serious”
people” using
your engines …<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Larry James<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 02 May 2008
01:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'SFeatherstone'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RV-List: RE:
the money
you owe me</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
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Stuart,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:
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this
speaks volumes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'>The Performance Engines website
calls you
the Sales Manager. Holding this position in the company and
taking no
action to remedy the situation defines you as complicit. So where
is my
money ???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p
>
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SFeatherstone [mailto:stuart@performanceengines.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 01,
2008 4:43
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Larry James'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: the money
you owe me<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Would
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color=navy
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p
></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I do
not own any part of Performance Engines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And.</span></font></st1:place></st1:countr
y-region><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I make
no financial decisions regarding any part of Performance
Engines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And.</span></font></st1:place></st1:countr
y-region><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The
information provided to me comes only from the owner of Performance
Engines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy
face=Arial><span
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></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>How
exactly did I become a crook?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stuart
Featherstone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</sp
an></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Larry
James [mailto:larry@ncproto.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 01,
2008 1:09
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Ron Munson';
stuart@performanceengines.com; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">info@PerformanceEngines.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Sara Halcomb'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> the money you
owe me<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Importance:</span></b>
High</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Ron and
Stuart,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>My public attack exposing
you and
your crooked business is quickly spinning up. Within the last
1-1/2 days
you have lost 3 engine sales that I am aware of and directly
responsible
for. It seems people are reluctant to deal with you because you
don’t return deposits for engines when you don’t deliver
those
engines. I am just getting started.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></
font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>If you wish to control
damage you
can overnight me a check for the full amount you owe me. I will
not slow
or halt my work exposing you until all funds have cleared my
bank.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></
font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Larry E.
James</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>New
Concepts</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma'>Redmond</span></font></st1:City><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">WA</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>425-885-1200</span></font>
<font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>800-783-9782</span></font>
<font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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