---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/25/08: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:12 AM - Re: I will not quit () 2. 07:46 AM - Re: I will not quit (Tim Bryan) 3. 09:06 AM - Re: Nose Dragger V Tail Dragger was (I will not quit) (Robin Marks) 4. 09:56 AM - Larger tires (N67BT@aol.com) 5. 12:54 PM - building (Wheeler North) 6. 02:44 PM - Re: building (Doug Gray) 7. 02:44 PM - Re: building (Reuven Silberman) 8. 03:20 PM - Density Altitude Peformace (Steve Glasgow) 9. 03:40 PM - Electric Trim Travel...? (Matt Dralle) 10. 05:40 PM - RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! (rveighta) 11. 05:58 PM - Re: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! (Tim Bryan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:40 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: I will not quit From: Reginald - I am 5ft 5 and I fly my RV6. We set the left seat attach hinge a little further forward than the plans called for, and set the rudders as far aft as possible. I still needed cushions behind me during the first few hours of flying, but soon got used to it. I have a friend who is a few inches shorter than me and he flies the 6 with ease - just sticks a spare cushion behind him. He does need a little help with forward visoin while taxiing though! It took 7 years to complete our RV6 - maybe two years of that time the project was hardly touched for all the usual reasons. I got discouraged at times - especially when critics told me 'It will never fly'. May be it was the cirtics who stung me into wanting to prove them wrong! Shirley Harding RV6 over 70 hours now and loving it! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:49 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: I will not quit I know I am not the longest build time at 16 years but I can honestly say I never even considered giving up. I took long times away from the project to build a house or restore an airplane but I always kept going. Here is what I did. I had a big white board in my shop near the airplane. When I worked if I came upon something that I needed to remember to do I wrote it on the board. I had a full list on there and when I completed things I crossed it off. I did not erase them until I needed space or reworded the list. Whenever I went to the shop to putter I could see this list calling at me to knock something out. Many things on this list were only an hour task or less. If I only had an hour and hadn't worked on the plane for many weeks it took absolutely no time to just jump on something from the list. Without it I had spent the first hour of every session trying to figure out where to start and getting re-familiar with the project. Make yourself a big nagging list so you don't have to agonize over the whole project like others have said. You can focus on one little thing at a time. The number of years it takes will not matter one bit once you fly it. Good luck! Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB almost 100 hours now _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: RV-List: I will not quit I had a week moment,,,, with a 2 year old QB-8 in the garage which I look at every day but had not worked much in about a year. I'd been busy with work and life I had lost interest and motivation to get back into the project. I decided to sell it. When my 11 year old daughter found out she was astounded and asked a simple question "Why are you going to quit? I thought you wanted to build the plane" Simply put,, never give up So I will build, and not just for me,, I went out dusted it off and built a simple rewarding thing like build the front seat, I'm back on a roll, in the grove, it will fly, Dan Lake Stevens WA -8 Reserved N728RV I will never give up, it will fly ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:04 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Nose Dragger V Tail Dragger was (I will not quit) From: "Robin Marks" RC, I suggest you get more Tail Wheel time before making that decision. I received my TW endorsement which is a lot like your certification... a license to learn to fly. The TW endorsement for most people is not comprehensive enough to tell MOST people if they will like flying a TW everyday and in all flying conditions. I personally received excellent TW instruction before transitioning to my RV-4. After many hours I decided that the TW was not for me as I really prefer the A models. I sold my 4 and purchased a 6A and LOVE that decision. Now I don't want to start a TW/Nose Wheel war as this is a personal decision but I find the Vans A models absolutely the easiest planes to land "like butter"... almost every time and in almost all conditions. Part of my choice had to do with a regular commute that has me flying into a commercial airport. My first flying out of that place the lineup was 737, 737, RV-4, G550 and no the tower did not warn the G550 of wake turbulence. As there is a small possibility of a ground loop (even without damage) I did not want to be the one to close down the active runway even for a few minutes diverting commercial traffic. I am sure you will enjoy whatever choice you make and it is your plane and your dream I was just providing a personal data point. Robin RV-4 Sold RV-6A 425 hours RV-10 OSH 2008 a possibility www.painttheweb.com/rv-10 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:45 AM PST US From: N67BT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Larger tires I have mounted slightly larger main gear tires on my RV7A as well as a custom nose gear fork which accommodates a 500 - 5 wheel and tire. So far no negative issues have surfaced after several take-offs and landings with this modification. I have not fitted new wheel fairings yet. For those interested in what I did, see the photo story at: _http://mesawood.info/myrv7a/building/newgear.htm_ (http://mesawood.info/myrv7a/building/newgear.htm) Front page: _http://mesawood.info_ (http://mesawood.info) Bob Trumpfheller N67BT 84 hrs. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:38 PM PST US From: "Wheeler North" Subject: RV-List: building As a two point two-five time airplane builder with attention deficit disorder life is just a series of twenty minute projects. The goal isn't to build an airplane, that's just the bonus that comes at the end. The goal is to create, to master, to become better, to solve, to dream, in between twenty minute parts, about white puffy clouds drifting past as you pass over snowy craggy peaks, bright green terrain and yellow fields. Yet with one in the hangar that I can fly anytime I still dream between twenty minute parts. Who the hell cares when it'll be done? I am privileged to live in a special place that only builders know. That is why I do it. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: building From: Doug Gray On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 12:50 -0700, Wheeler North wrote: > Who the hell cares when it'll be done? I am privileged to live in a > special > place that only builders know. That is why I do it. Well said Wheeler! I secretly curse everyone who says "Built in x years!" when x is always way shorter than my build time (now 11 years). I often wonder what sacrifice they made to achieve that build time. Was it a wife, the children or was it life itself? Quite frankly the RV-6 is not my first priority but I have never lost an once of enthusiasm for it or for flying in the 11 years! It will be done! Doug Gray Panel done - now fitting canopy. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:43 PM PST US From: Reuven Silberman Subject: Re: RV-List: building Amen Bro - Only in America (and some other English speaking countries). As a two point two-five time airplane builder with attention deficit disorder life is just a series of twenty minute projects. The goal isn't to build an airplane, that's just the bonus that comes at the end. The goal is to create, to master, to become better, to solve, to dream, in between twenty minute parts, about white puffy clouds drifting past as you pass over snowy craggy peaks, bright green terrain and yellow fields. Yet with one in the hangar that I can fly anytime I still dream between twenty minute parts. Who the hell cares when it'll be done? I am privileged to live in a special place that only builders know. That is why I do it. "No pressure, no diamonds". ~Thomas Carlyle ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:57 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: RV-List: Density Altitude Peformace Does anyone have any performance data for specific Density Altitudes. I know it would be aircraft specific but it would be useful as a WAG. I have been using a KOCH chart. Anyway I'm 180 HP with a cruise prop. But any data for other props might be useful. Thanks Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:12 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Electric Trim Travel...? Dear Listers, Working on my RV-4 electric trim, I don't seem to find anywhere where the actual UP and DOWN travel amounts for the trim tab are called out. I built the Mac Trim servo installation more or less per the plans, and I'm getting about 1" UP and 7/8" DOWN travel measured at the outboard end of the tab with respect to the trailing edge of the elevator. I've included a couple of pics for reference. With an O360 and CS Prop, will this be sufficient trim throw? Thanks for the help! Matt Dralle RV-4 N442RV ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:02 PM PST US From: rveighta Subject: RV-List: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! Just want everyone on the list, especially to the many who have helped out with answers to my questions, that my RV-8 flew for the first time on May 23rd. Very few problems (minor oil leak, rudder trim tab needed) Thanks again guys! Walt Shipley ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:21 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! Congrats Walt. It is a great feeling I am sure as I still remember. Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB almost 100 hours now > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rveighta > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:37 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! > > > Just want everyone on the list, especially to the many who have helped > out with answers to my questions, that my RV-8 flew for the first time on > May 23rd. Very few problems (minor oil leak, rudder trim tab needed) > Thanks again guys! > > Walt Shipley > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.