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Mon 05/26/08


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 05:05 AM - Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (Ralph E. Capen)
     2. 05:16 AM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (Tim Lewis)
     3. 05:25 AM - RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! (glen matejcek)
     4. 06:19 AM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (MIKE JEFFERSON)
     5. 07:19 AM - I will not quit (Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty)
     6. 08:38 AM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (Carl Froehlich)
     7. 09:32 AM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (Jim)
     8. 09:34 AM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (linn Walters)
     9. 09:56 AM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (linn Walters)
    10. 10:02 AM - Re: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! (scott bilinski)
    11. 01:42 PM - Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
    12. 05:12 PM - Re: Electric Trim Travel...? (Dale Ensing)
    13. 09:52 PM - Trim tab and congrats (Wheeler North)
    14. 10:03 PM - Tensile Strength of Nuts (H.Ivan Haecker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:05:53 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    Folks, I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship. I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg. In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the hangar. I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to mind). Why not? Someone educate me! Ralph Capen


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    Time: 05:16:01 AM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <timrvator@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    Prop strike. (prop vs nose wheel/fairing) -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 1000 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction Ralph E. Capen wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - > kinda like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship. > > I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg. > > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't > make full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane > back in to the hangar. > > I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come > to mind). > > Why not? > > Someone educate me! > > Ralph Capen > >


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    Time: 05:25:03 AM PST US
    From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
    Subject: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!!
    Congrats Walt; I'm jealous! Time: 05:40:02 PM PST US From: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! Just want everyone on the list, especially to the many who have helped out with answers to my questions, that my RV-8 flew for the first time on May 23rd. Very few problems (minor oil leak, rudder trim tab needed) Thanks again guys! Walt Shipley glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net


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    Time: 06:19:07 AM PST US
    From: MIKE JEFFERSON <grumman1@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    grummans caster 90 deg from center, prop strike target outherwise mike j. N9805u> From: recapen@earthlink.net> To: rv-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV -List: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:58:12 .net>> > Folks,> > I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda > like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship.> > I am usi ng a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg.> > In putting this togeth er, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make > full sense to me - esp ecially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the > hangar.> > I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to > mind).> ========================> _ ===============> > > _________________________________________________________________ Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the i=92m Initiative from Micr osoft.


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    Time: 07:19:04 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty" <jfogarty@tds.net>
    Subject: I will not quit
    I started building my RV9a in Sept. of 2005 and I should be done on the 23rd., I just don't know what month or year! In 2005 I had 3 grandchildren and now I have five, I hoping one of them will catch the bug and be around to witness the first lift off from kpwc. Our two year old grandson was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer called Neuroblastoma at 6 months of age and he is Gramp's best helper in the shop. Life is a journey, so live it to the fullest, I take the Cardinal up if I have a little fuel money and love the freedom as I pass by those beautiful white clouds and laugh at the rest of the folks who aren't so lucky. For additional information about Logan's fight, please visit his website at www.caringbridge.org and enter the name "Logan Fogarty". I know many of you are going through many of the same types of challenges in life and it's not always easy to be in the shop, but for me it is all about the memories in aviation and family! Have a great day. Jim Fogarty fuselage


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    Time: 08:38:39 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
    Subject: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    Not sure. On my plane however there would be interference between the forward wheel pant and gear leg fiberglass fairings. In practice I find pushing the plane backwards to not be a problem. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (400 hrs) RV-10 (flaps) From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MIKE JEFFERSON Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not grummans caster 90 deg from center, prop strike target outherwise mike j. N9805u > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not > Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:58:12 -0400 > > > Folks, > > I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda > like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship. > > I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg. > > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make > full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the > hangar. > > I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to > mind). > > Why not? > > Someone educate me! > > > > _____ Give to a good cault.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause' target='_new'>Join the i'm Initiative from Microsoft.


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    Time: 09:32:01 AM PST US
    From: "Jim" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    Hello Ralph, I think the prop arc would and or could interfere with the nose wheel assembly under the right (or should it be said wrong ?) conditions. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:58 AM Subject: RV-List: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not > > Folks, > > I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - kinda > like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship. > > I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg. > > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make > full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to > the hangar. > > I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to > mind). > > Why not? > > Someone educate me! > > Ralph Capen > > >


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    Time: 09:34:13 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    Well, I wish Grummans had full swiveling nosewheels, but they do not. They have stops to prevent rotation past 90 degrees both ways. The problem is the wheel pants COULD end up in the prop arc (don't remember if the tire does) which would be expensive. Sooo, I put the socket head bolts back in! As unlikely as it seems that the assembly could get into the prop arc in normal operation ..... I've rolled backwards down a slight incline with engine at idle, and the bolts stopped the nosewheel at 90 degrees, stopping the backward roll. I had my eyes inside the cockpit ad didn't realize I was rolling backwards until the nosewheel came up against the stop. It surely would be a good 'mod' to go full circle ..... at our Grumman conventions, steering a plane backwards through a course is a main event!!! Linn do not archive Ralph E. Capen wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - > kinda like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship. > > I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg. > > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't > make full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane > back in to the hangar. > > I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come > to mind). > > Why not? > > Someone educate me! > > Ralph Capen > >


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    Time: 09:56:27 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    I probably should have said this before ...... The problem is usually caused by using a too-short towbar. Towbars are usually short so they can be collapsed and put in the airplane when you're not at home base. I have two ..... a longhandled one for the home hangar and a short one for traveling. Make your towbar long enough so that you can push on the prop with one hand (NOT THE SPINNER) and steer the plane with the other comfortably. Why not the spinner??? Over time they'll get small cracksin the fiberglass and fail at the most inopportune time. Aluminum spinners have been known to acquire dents from pushing on them. Linn do not archive Carl Froehlich wrote: > > Not sure. On my plane however there would be interference between the > forward wheel pant and gear leg fiberglass fairings. > > > > In practice I find pushing the plane backwards to not be a problem. > > > Carl Froehlich > > RV-8A (400 hrs) > > RV-10 (flaps) > > > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *MIKE JEFFERSON > *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2008 9:16 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV-List: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not > > > > grummans caster 90 deg from center, prop strike target outherwise > mike j. > N9805u > > > From: recapen@earthlink.net > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV-List: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not > > Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:58:12 -0400 > > > > > > Folks, > > > > I'm in the process of installing a larger nosewheel fork on my 6A - > kinda > > like Bob's recently unveiled craftsmanship. > > > > I am using a new fork made to fit the stock nosegear leg. > > > > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make > > full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in > to the > > hangar. > > > > I have seen other planes with full swivel nosewheels (Grumman's come to > > mind). > > > > Why not? > > > > Someone educate me! > > * > > > > > > > > * > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > * > > *Give to a good cault.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause' target='_new'>Join > the i'm Initiative from Microsoft. * > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > ** > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > * > > > *


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    Time: 10:02:36 AM PST US
    From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!!
    Is this San Diego Walt Shipley? Scott ----- Original Message ---- From: glen matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:22:06 AM Subject: RV-List: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! Congrats Walt; I'm jealous! Time: 05:40:02 PM PST US From: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: RV-8 N220ES FLIES!! Just want everyone on the list, especially to the many who have helped out with answers to my questions, that my RV-8 flew for the first time on May 23rd. Very few problems (minor oil leak, rudder trim tab needed) Thanks again guys! Walt Shipley glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net


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    Time: 01:42:48 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Full castoring nosewheel - Why not
    In a message dated 05/26/2008 10:40:44 AM Central Daylight Time, carl.froehlich@cox.net writes: > In putting this together, I realized that the steering stop doesn't make > full sense to me - especially when I will be pushing my plane back in to the > hangar. >>> After deciding on a 3-blade prop (Catto), I realized this might be possible. After shoving Mojo into her hangar many, many times, I'd think it not worth the trouble. Keep the breakout force to spec, and on pavement it's very easy to do. Wrestling an -A backwards on grass is another matter altogether- best done with help, nosewheel in the air, (tail pushed down), and helpers pushing on wing LEs... Mark **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)


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    Time: 05:12:03 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Electric Trim Travel...?
    Matt, I have 1 1/4" up and down travel on my MAC electric trim tab measured at the outboard end of the tab. I have a 6A with O-360 and Hartzel CS prop so may be a little different then your 4. I don't think I have ever had the trim all the way to the end of "DOWN" trim travel in flight. But, I do run it all the way to end of "UP" trim travel (or close to it) while in landing configuration. Have been thinking about changing center a little to get more up but then my trim position indicator would be slightly off. Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: RV-List: Electric Trim Travel...? > > Dear Listers, > > Working on my RV-4 electric trim, I don't seem to find anywhere where > the actual UP and DOWN travel amounts for the trim tab are called > out. I built the Mac Trim servo installation more or less per the > plans, and I'm getting about 1" UP and 7/8" DOWN travel measured at > the outboard end of the tab with respect to the trailing edge of the > elevator. I've included a couple of pics for reference. > > With an O360 and CS Prop, will this be sufficient trim throw? > > Thanks for the help! > > Matt Dralle > RV-4 N442RV >


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    Time: 09:52:44 PM PST US
    From: "Wheeler North" <wnorth@sdccd.edu>
    Subject: Trim tab and congrats
    Hey Walt, Congrats, now you can finish building the other 95 percent... ;{) Matt, On the trim tab it really doesn't matter, adjust it as a part of the flight testing. RVs generally do not need a lot of nose down trim because the planes go down hill very easily. When trimmed for nose down, VNE full power my tab is only up about 3/16", and cruise (140kts) level it is at neutral. Leave it where it is and when you fly it, see what speed the max nose up (tab down) travel gets you. Mine is adjusted to give me about 60 kts hands free power off max aft CG loading, max tab down. The idea is that if I let go of everything it won't automatically stall when at max nose up trim. With full fuel and me solo (most forward CG) I have to add a touch of pressure to hold 70kts on final in max nose up trim, but it will easily stay below max flaps speed hand free power off. W


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    Time: 10:03:33 PM PST US
    From: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
    Subject: Tensile Strength of Nuts
    Does anyone know if the tensile strength of an all metal anchor nut is equal to that of an AN 363/365 of the same thread size? For example, does a K1000-4 anchor nut have the same tensile strength as an AN363-428 all metal stop nut? I notice that the anchor nut has the same footprint as an MS21042 which the ACS catalog states has the same tensile strength as an AN363. And as long as I'm asking, does an AN365 elastic stop nut have the same tensile strength as an AN363 all metal stop nut? Where would one find this sort of information? Thanks in advance, Ivan Haecker -4 1458 hrs. S. Cen. TX




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