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1. 04:31 AM - Re: Camloc button latch for oil door (Ralph E. Capen)
2. 09:14 AM - Grove Streamlined Gear For RV-8... (Matt Dralle)
3. 02:47 PM - FOR SALE: Isham RV Tool Kit with upgrades (Dan Brown)
4. 04:49 PM - Hydraulic fluid (jim-bean@att.net)
5. 06:17 PM - Re: Grove Streamlined Gear For RV-8... (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: Camloc button latch for oil door |
Gary,
Do you have any photos? Would a single latch do the job? My oil-door
'lip' is three layers of fiberglass bonded to the inside of the cowl -
it extends about 3/8" in the the opening. I have some .040 that I was
thinking about adding as a striker plate - but just in the center couple
of inches or so.
Your thoughts,
Ralph
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From: Vanremog@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Camloc button latch for oil door
In a message dated 7/5/2008 5:39:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
recapen@earthlink.net writes:
I have the latch - I need instructions....
Do I need to reinforce the area where the latch strikes? How far
from the
striker is it mounted.
Ralph-
I did rivet a .040" thick sheet U shaped aluminum ledge along three
sides of the cutout in the cowling to both stop the door and give some
meat for the latches (I've got two for redundancy) to bear on. I
extended it out into the opening about .250" on the three edges and it
engages nicely and positively.
N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 897hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley)
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| Subject: | Grove Streamlined Gear For RV-8... |
RV Listers,
Grove makes a streamlined, airfoiled landing gear for the RV-8. Saves having to
use the fiberglass. They also have the brake line embedded within the gear
leg. Over all, they weigh a few pounds less.
Does anyone have any experience with these gear legs? What is the cost differential
over the stock ones? Do they fit as good or better than stock?
Should an RV-8 builder bother with the hassle of deleting the stock ones from the
Van's kit and ordering these?
And another historic question... Why-o-why did Van's get away from the super sweet
looking swept-back, Whitman-style gear on the RV-8? The spring steel, forward
facing gear on the RV-8 just look dopy...
Matt
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| Subject: | FOR SALE: Isham RV Tool Kit with upgrades |
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For a variety of reasons, mostly relating to my being called to active
duty with the Army, I won't be able to complete my planned RV-7A.
Consequently, I'll need to sell my tools. This is the complete Isham
kit pictured at:
http://www.store-planetools.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9
This kit includes a pneumatic rivet squeezer and the popular DRDT-2
dimpling tool.
In addition, the following extras are included:
Screw-adjustable Rivet Squeezer Ram (a $70 value)
Avery Longeron Yoke (a $150 value)
Avery Thin-nose (no-hole) Yoke (a $140 value)
Avery back-rivet plate (a $50 value)
Avery flush swivel rivet set (a $40 value)
A couple of additional countersink cutters
Additional side-grip clecos (about 10 extra of each, IIRC)
That's $450 in upgrades, in addition to the Isham set. All tools are in
excellent condition. The air drill is NOT, repeat NOT included;
everything else is.
This would cost nearly $3000 for these tools ordered new. I'll take
$2500 OBO, plus shipping. If you're local to Fayetteville, NC, you can
pick up. Contact me by e-mail at dan@familybrown.org if interested.
Thanks for your interest!
The following tools are included:
DRDT-2 Dimpler* (email for delivery date on DRDT-2)
Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (U.S.A.)*
3 C-Yoke Installed on Squeezer (U.S.A.)*
Adjustable Set Holder for Pneumatic Squeezer (U.S.A.)*
3X Rivet Gun with excellent teasing trigger*
EZ change spring for straight rivet sets*
EZ Change Spring for flush sets (Snap-On Ind U.S.A.)*
Swivel and Air Flow Restrictor with fine precision adjustment*
1 Diameter Flush Rivet Set (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
3/32 Cupped Rivet Set 3.5 (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
1/8 Cupped Rivet Set 3.5 (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
3/16 Cupped Rivet Set 3.5 (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
1/8 Double Offset Rivet Set (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Back Rivet Set* (Special Small 1/2" Diameter for RV's)
Mini-Bucking Bar, 1 lb. (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Bulkhead Bucking Bar (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Footed Bucking Bar (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Microstop Countersink Unit, needle-bearing, non-chattering (U.S.A.)*
#40 Countersink Bit, 3/32 (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
#30 Countersink Bit, for 1/8 & #6 Screw (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
#8 Countersink Bit, #8 Screw (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
#10 Countersink Bit, #10 Screw (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Left Cut Snips, easy to use offset type (Klein Tools U.S.A.)*
Right Cut Snips, easy to use offset type (Klein Tools U.S.A.)*
Straight Cut Snips, easy to use offset type (Klein Tools U.S.A.)*
#40 Aviation Cobalt Drill Bits for 3/32 rivets, 8 each
#30 Aviation Cobalt Drill Bits for 1/8 rivets, 6 each
#27 Aviation Cobalt Drill Bit
#21 Aviation Cobalt Drill Bit
#19 Aviation Cobalt Drill Bit
#12 Aviation Cobalt Drill Bit
1/4" Aviation Cobalt Drill Bit
12 Aviation Extra Long #40 Drill Bit
12 Aviation Extra Long #30 Drill Bit
Deburr Tool, Speed Handle Type for small & large holes (U.S.A.)*
Cleco Pliers*
4 Cleco Clamps, 1/2" (Calif Assoc Prod or Zephyr U.S.A.)*
4 Cleco Clamps, 1 (Calif Assoc Prod or Zephyr U.S.A.)*
Pop Rivet Tool, Professional Heavy-Duty unit with Swivel Head*
3/32" Universal Cupped Squeezer Set (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
1/8 Universal Cupped Squeezer Set (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
5/32" Universal Cupped Squeezer Set (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
3/16 Universal Cupped Squeezer Set (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Flat Squeezer Set 1/8 (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Flat Squeezer Set 1/4" (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Flat Squeezer Set 3/8 (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
Flat Squeezer Set 1/2" (Snap-On U.S.A.)*
3/32 Rivet Dimple Die (Springback U.S.A.)*
1/8 Rivet Dimple Die (Springback U.S.A.)*
5/32" Dimple Die*
3/16" - #10 Screw Dimple Die*
#8 Screw Dimple Die*
#6 Screw Dimple Die*
Squeezer Set Organizer*
Squeezer Set Adjustment Washers *
Stainless Steel Rule, 12*
Unibit 1/4" - 3/4" by 1/16ths, (Klein U.S.A.)*
3 Permanent Markers, Sharpie
1/2 x 1 Reducers for 3M Wheel*
325 Cleco Fasteners, 3/32 (Calif Assoc Prod or Zephyr U.S.A.)*
175 Cleco Fasteners, 1/8 (Calif Assoc Prod or Zephyr U.S.A.)*
10 Cleco Fasteners, 5/32" (Calif Assoc Prod or Zephyr U.S.A.)*
10 Cleco Fasteners, 3/16 (Calif Assoc Prod or Zephyr U.S.A.)*
Edge Deburring Tool, Hex Swivel type*
Fluting Pliers, Smooth Flute Nylon Jaws*
Fluting Pliers, Deep V Nylon Jaws*
Rivet Cutter*
Air Tool Oil
Drill Stop Set of 4 with Allen Wrench*
Rivet Set DOTS, Easier than Rivet Tape
3/32 Pop Rivet Dimple Die, Springback (U.S.A.)*
1/8 Pop Rivet Dimple Die, Springback (U.S.A.)*
Hand Seamer (Klein Tools U.S.A.)*
3/32 Drive Pin Punch (Klein Tools U.S.A.)*
1/8 Drive Pin Punch (Klein Tools U.S.A.)*
Scotch Brite Hand Pads, 4 each
Rivet Length Gauge*
Rivet Shop Head Gauge, 4-piece*
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Dan Brown, KE6MKS, dan@familybrown.org
"Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring."
~ -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille
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| Subject: | Re: Grove Streamlined Gear For RV-8... |
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> RV Listers,
>
> Grove makes a streamlined, airfoiled landing gear for the RV-8. Saves having
to use the fiberglass. They also have the brake line embedded within the gear
leg. Over all, they weigh a few pounds less.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with these gear legs? What is the cost differential
over the stock ones? Do they fit as good or better than stock?
>
> Should an RV-8 builder bother with the hassle of deleting the stock ones from
the Van's kit and ordering these?
>
> And another historic question... Why-o-why did Van's get away from the super
sweet looking swept-back, Whitman-style gear on the RV-8? The spring steel, forward
facing gear on the RV-8 just look dopy...
>
> Matt
I know only one person who's used them, & he did it for the weight
savings. It was a pretty expensive way to save weight.
Only Van knows for sure, but I'd bet that it was an engineering
decision, with money being a small contributor. The -8 is about a foot
longer than the -4 & stands a lot taller, so the gear legs would have
been a lot longer & much heavier to get the wheels in the right place
with the extra strength needed for the much higher gross weight of the
-8. Those gear towers do look like a real pain, though. They take up a
lot of room in the front cockpit & the guys I know with -8's all
complain about torquing the gear bolts.
Charlie
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