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1. 12:08 AM - Re: Aileron Trim and wing leveler question (Jeff Point)
2. 04:10 AM - Re: VOR Antenna Mounting... (sheldon barrett)
3. 05:01 AM - Re: Aileron Trim and wing leveler question (Dana Overall)
4. 05:01 AM - Re: VOR Antenna Mounting... (Ralph E. Capen)
5. 06:27 AM - Re: Aileron Trim and wing leveler question (Charles Heathco)
6. 09:06 AM - Re: VOR Antenna Mounting... (Tim Bryan)
7. 10:55 AM - Plane Crash (Robin Marks)
8. 12:15 PM - Re: Introducing myself (Greg Green)
9. 12:23 PM - Re: Plane Crash ()
10. 02:07 PM - Re: Plane Crash (Skylor Piper)
11. 02:44 PM - RV-8/8A builders/flyers meetings at OSH (Kevin Horton)
12. 03:20 PM - Re: Plane Crash ()
13. 03:51 PM - Re: Plane Crash (JFLEISC@aol.com)
14. 05:05 PM - SLICK MAGs (Robin Marks)
15. 06:14 PM - Re: Plane Crash (Jerry Calvert)
16. 07:37 PM - Re: Plane Crash (Ron Lee)
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Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim and wing leveler question |
It's a non-issue. The system only puts a little pre-load on the aileron
controls via the springs. You won't feel it in the stick and the A/P
won't care. In fact, I find the my wing leveler (Naviad) works just a
little better when it has to fight the trim a little bit. Not sure
about the Trio, but I'd love to swap out the Navaid and find out!
I did replace the stock springs with much longer ones that ran most of
the length beteen the trim arm and the control stick, attached by very
short pieces of safety wire at the ends.
Jeff Point
RV-6 flying/ RV-8 building
Milwaukee
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Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Mounting... |
I have a 6A and mounted my VOR antenna under the h.s. on the tail cone... so
outa sight, I forget it's there sometimes.. works very good too... Sheldon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna Mounting...
>
> RV-Listers,
>
> I'm mounting a VOR antenna on the Vertical Fin and came up with this
> idea for installation. I'm thinking maybe adding a .063" plate
> underneath for added rigidity. Maybe another under the black antenna
> mount as well. Does this seem like a decent way to mount this? Other
> ideas?
>
> Matt
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Subject: | Aileron Trim and wing leveler question |
Dean=2C not an issue with the same setup. Manual trim=2C Trio A/P..
Short and sweet.
Dana Overall
Richmond=2C KY i39
RV-7 slider "Black Magic"
Flying..well sorta=2C useta=2C kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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> Date: Thu=2C 10 Jul 2008 01:22:59 -0400
> From: dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net
> Subject: RV-List: Aileron Trim and wing leveler question
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>
on.net>
>
>
> RV builders who've installed manual aileron trim (the little lever betwee
n
> the seats with the springs down to the control stick pushrod heim joint
> bolt). I built the airplane with this mechanism but forgot to install it
> when I assembled the control column=2C sticks and pushrod tubes. After
> noticing my error and dragging out the parts I noticed that the trim leve
r
> relys on the clamping force of a plastic block around the trim lever shaf
t.
> This got me to wondering if the drag from the trim system would adversely
> affect the operation of the autopilot (EZ Pilot). Anyone have experience
> with manual aileron trim interfering with the operation of your wing
> leveler? Or...is this a non issue? Thanks.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Weighing this weekend=2C inspection next week.
>
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Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Mounting... |
I have a 6A with the older tail - My VOR/LOC/GS antenna is mounted very similar
to how you are planning yours.
I put a backing plate under the top rib and built a hat section to raise the antenna
and level it. The hat sectioon is removeable for maintenance (or in case
I got the level angle wrong). My antenna is a Comant CI-182 (IIRC) and it fits
completely under the fiberglass cap - the only thing sticking out are the
'eye pokers' but with a 6A they're way up there.
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>Sent: Jul 9, 2008 11:38 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna Mounting...
>
>
>RV-Listers,
>
>I'm mounting a VOR antenna on the Vertical Fin and came up with this
>idea for installation. I'm thinking maybe adding a .063" plate
>underneath for added rigidity. Maybe another under the black antenna
>mount as well. Does this seem like a decent way to mount this? Other ideas?
>
>Matt
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Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim and wing leveler question |
I fabricated and instrlled the trim lever right after I got the plane,(
6a) its very effective, has no efect on the autopilot, nor is it
noticibel hand flying. Charlie heathco
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Subject: | VOR Antenna Mounting... |
Matt,
I mounted mine just about like you show. In spite of all the eye poking
advice I also got for my taildragger, I have yet to poke mine or anyone
else. It has been a non issue and if anyone else gets that close to my
plane, I cringe anyway. Mine is a little more forward on the stabilizer
than you show and the black disc sticks out from the fiberglass by a small
amount on each side. It works great.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:38 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna Mounting...
>
>
> RV-Listers,
>
> I'm mounting a VOR antenna on the Vertical Fin and came up with this
> idea for installation. I'm thinking maybe adding a .063" plate
> underneath for added rigidity. Maybe another under the black antenna
> mount as well. Does this seem like a decent way to mount this? Other
> ideas?
>
> Matt
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Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the
plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
LA.
This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or
210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
think about these days are defective Mags.
While circling the site I had time to think how great owning
an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
Robin
Do Not Archive
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Subject: | Re: Introducing myself |
Had my subscription on digest, so didn't see your replay's.
Thanks for the welcome.
I am no longer a design engineer at Boeing. I switched to a software developer
(also at Boeing) in 1996, right about the time of the big push to composites,
instead of the beloved aluminum+rivets. The job (design engineer) was too much
paper pushing for me. I still work with all those guys, so if you have any questions
for me, I can ask the experts. There are some very fine engineers working
there, also at Northrop, Lockheed, Airbus, and countless second tier suppliers.
Never met anyone from Bombadier. They work on those little airplanes. :)
Now I work on software for helping the engineers, specifically the up-front design,
which is very interesting. Lots of cutting edge working going on, also a
lot of mistakes, notice the big delays with the new airplanes.
I think the guys at Vans do a fine job also, from what little I've gotten through
so far. More buildable than some of the stuff I did. :)
It is true that advanced CAD skills != good designs. That is what experience and
mentoring is for. Tools are just tools, it is the person behind them that makes
them work. One thing is pretty clear to me, there needs to be more young people
in aviation, it is greybeard's everywhere at Boeing and the other places.
Not the premium place for young people to go anymore it seems. That doesn't
bode well for the future, especially when the opposite seem to be true in Asia.
I guess I better stop yakking, Have a good day all.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192170#192170
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Can not tell if it is a retract or not. If it is then it is a 172 or 182. 206's
are fixed gear and 210's do not have struts. My guess is a Cutlass 172RG.
---- Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
> in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
> downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
> airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
> airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
> SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
> for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
> within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
> didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the
> plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
> the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
> there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
> and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
> coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
> even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
> a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
> way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
> they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
> suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
> standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
> road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
> rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
> hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
> Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
> thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
> LA.
>
> This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
> results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or
> 210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
>
>
>
> http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
> think about these days are defective Mags.
>
> While circling the site I had time to think how great owning
> an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
> Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
>
>
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210's had struts from '57 through '66
--- On Thu, 7/10/08, dsvs@ca.rr.com <dsvs@ca.rr.com> wrote:
From: dsvs@ca.rr.com <dsvs@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Plane Crash
Can not tell if it is a retract or not. If it is then it is a 172 or 182.
206's are fixed gear and 210's do not have struts. My guess is a
Cutlass 172RG.
---- Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
> in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
> downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
> airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
> airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
> SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
> for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
> within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
> didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought
the
> plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
> the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
> there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
> and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
> coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
> even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
> a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
> way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
> they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
> suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
> standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
> road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
> rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
> hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
> Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
> thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
> LA.
>
> This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
> results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or
> 210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
>
>
>
> http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
> think about these days are defective Mags.
>
> While circling the site I had time to think how great owning
> an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
> Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | RV-8/8A builders/flyers meetings at OSH |
In years past there have been one or two RV-8/8A builders meetings in
the Theatre in the Woods. Several other builders who frequent the
Yahoo RV-8 Group have expressed interest this year, so there should
be at least a handful of builders at the Theatre in the Woods at the
following dates/times:
Tuesday at 10:15
Thursday at 10:15
Both meetings would be at the Theatre in the Woods. If it is raining,
we will meet under the roof. If it is not raining, we can meet just
outside on the end away from the stage. I'll bring stick-on name tags
and markers, so we can identify the people who belong to the names
we've seen online.
At one point, I had hoped to fly my RV to OSH this year. There is no
way that will happen, but maybe I will have flown by then. My wife
and I will drive down. She is originally from Green Bay, so will
spend the week visiting sisters while I bake (or drown) at OSH.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (final assemby)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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eah you are right. I did not begin flying till after that, my bad.
---- Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 210's had struts from '57 through '66
>
> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, dsvs@ca.rr.com <dsvs@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> From: dsvs@ca.rr.com <dsvs@ca.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Plane Crash
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:20 PM
>
>
> Can not tell if it is a retract or not. If it is then it is a 172 or 182.
> 206's are fixed gear and 210's do not have struts. My guess is a
> Cutlass 172RG.
>
> ---- Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
> > Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I tuned
> > in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look for a
> > downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa Paula
> > airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
> > airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
> > SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
> > for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
> > within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
> > didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought
> the
> > plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
> > the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
> > there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
> > and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
> > coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
> > even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
> > a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
> > way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
> > they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
> > suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
> > standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
> > road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
> > rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
> > hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
> > Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
> > thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
> > LA.
> >
> > This morning I found a link with video of the plane and the
> > results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a 206 or
> > 210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
> >
> >
> >
> > http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
> > think about these days are defective Mags.
> >
> > While circling the site I had time to think how great owning
> > an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
> > Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
> >
> >
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Kudos
do not archive
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scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!
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I emailed BPE this morning regarding the joy of having TWO brand
spanking new mags that fall under the SB. Rhonda did a little research
and found a solution that gets around the SB / future inspections. She
OK'd me to post this to the list:
Here is the pricing from the local accessory shop in Tulsa, Quality
Aircraft Accessories. Replace the carbon brush and cam, including labor
for any Slick mag at or around 100 hours for $75/mag. This would be
Aero-Accessory replacement parts, so they would not be affected by the
SB after the repair.
Justin Hicks at Quality can be reached directly at (918) 835-6948 for
assistance.
I am not sure what it takes to do this yourself. The SB makes the
replacement seem pretty simple.
Robin
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9627B Make/Model: C172 Description: 172, P172,
R172, Skyhawk, Hawk XP, Cutla
Date: 07/10/2008 Time: 2346
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: FILLMORE State: CA Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LOST ENGINE POWER, FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD AND FLIPPED OVER,
6
MILES FROM FILLMORE, CA
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1
Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
WEATHER: VFR
OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER
FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 07/10/2008
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Plane Crash
Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I
tuned in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look
for a downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa
Paula airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the
plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
LA.
This morning I found a link with video of the plane and
the results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a
206 or 210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
think about these days are defective Mags.
While circling the site I had time to think how great
owning an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
Robin
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Odds on it running out of fuel?
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Calvert
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Plane Crash
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9627B Make/Model: C172 Description: 172, P172,
R172, Skyhawk, Hawk XP, Cutla
Date: 07/10/2008 Time: 2346
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: FILLMORE State: CA Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT LOST ENGINE POWER, FORCE LANDED IN A FIELD AND FLIPPED OVER,
6
MILES FROM FILLMORE, CA
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1
Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
WEATHER: VFR
OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER
FAA FSDO: VAN NUYS, CA (WP01) Entry date: 07/10/2008
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Plane Crash
Yesterday while flying back from SBP to WHP (a regular commute) I
tuned in to speak with SOCAL traffic. They asked if I had time to look
for a downed plane. I had picked up a strong ELT when I crossed Santa
Paula airport but I assumed someone was either testing their ELT on the
airport or ???. I said sure I have time and would be happy to help.
SOCAL asked me to fly towards the Reagan Presidential Library. I asked
for vectors but they didn't really know however I had some idea and
within 30 seconds located the HUGE building on the top of a hill. I
didn't realize Reagan was such a big reader. From there ATC thought the
plane was about 2 miles west. It took about another 10 seconds to locate
the plane. I expected that it would be VERY difficult to find unless
there was smoke but the plane was lying in a hill side completely intact
and spread eagle so it was a snap to locate. I gave ATC the GPS
coordinates and circled waiting for emergency response vehicles. I was
even able to redirect the response team when they went the wrong way on
a dirt road. It was kind of fun. I told ATC they were going the wrong
way and 10 seconds later I see all the vehicles stop and dust fly up as
they reversed their course. It was difficult to tell from 3,000' but I
suspected the plane was upside down and I think I saw 4-5 people
standing near the nose of the plane. I also saw a truck on the upper
road so I assumed that there were survivors and aid from a local
rancher. I believe the pilot tried to land on the upslope of the small
hill and dug the nose into the hillside putting the Cessna on its back.
Once the police/fire were onsite there was nothing more I could do. ATC
thanked me for my assistance and headed off to complete my flight into
LA.
This morning I found a link with video of the plane and
the results. Note it is NOT a 172 but a retract Cessna, most likely a
206 or 210 (not an expert on Cessna's)
http://cbs2.com/local/Simi.Valley.Crash.2.767545.html
It's obviously too early to know what caused the crash but all I can
think about these days are defective Mags.
While circling the site I had time to think how great
owning an RV-9 or RV-8 with a IO-320 would be to perform this function.
Tremendous plane with excellent visibility and low fuel burn.
Robin
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