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1. 09:51 AM - RV-6A For Sale (Richard Dudley)
2. 09:59 AM - RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... (Matt Dralle)
3. 11:58 AM - Re: RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... (gert)
4. 01:08 PM - IO-360 with vertical sump (Fred Stucklen)
5. 04:14 PM - Re: IO-360 with vertical sump (Carl Froehlich)
6. 05:54 PM - Re: IO-360 with vertical sump (Terry Watson)
7. 06:45 PM - Re: IO-360 with vertical sump (Bret Smith)
8. 07:50 PM - Re: IO-360 with vertical sump (Richard Sipp)
9. 08:29 PM - Re: IO-360 with vertical sump (Terry Watson)
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Listers,
A combination of health and financial factors have forced our decision
to sell our beloved airplane. If you are seriously looking for a
beautiful, well-equipped and flying RV-6A read the description below.
RV-6A FOR SALE
Completed 2005 Total time <140 hrs
O-320-D1A Total time since new <140 hrs
Hartzell C/S Prop total time since new <140 hrs
Slider
Great paint
Garmin GNS 430 nav/com
SL-30 nav/com
Garmin GTX 327 Transponder
Garmin GMA 340 Audio panel
Dual CDI
IFR panel, heated pitot
Dual Duckworks landing/taxi lights with Wig-Wag
S-Tech System 20 auto pilot
New main tires
Always hangared
March 2008 annual
Asking: :$100K
Serious buyers contact me for photos and more details off line at:
rhdudley1@bellsouth.net
Richard Dudley
Orlando, FL
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| Subject: | RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... |
Fellow Listers,
What exactly does the RV-8 "Tall-man" option entail? What modifications are made
to the seat, weldment, etc? I'm not finding any mention of it on the plans.
If you order the Tall-man option with the QB kit, can you opt for the "Regular-man"
option at build time?
Knowing nothing about what it actually is, I assume it pushes the weldment back
some allowing you to mount the pilot's seat further aft. While I am a "Tall-man",
my preference would actually be to increase the pilot's seat back recline
amount by moving the weldment back, but leaving the bottom of the seat in the
normal position. Is this possible?
Does anyone have any detailed pictures of what the Tall-man option looks like and
specifically how it differs from the Regular-man option?
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... |
hi Matt
The tallman option shifts the cross brace weldment back more so that the
seatback leans more. that's great if the 'tall' is in the top half of
your body. but in my case the 'tall' is in my legs, so i was still
rubbing my knees on the panel. To alleviate this I moved the bottom of
the seat back back in about the same amount as the top was moved back by
the tallman option, I did this by installing a second hinge on the
floorpanel. some pictures at
http://www.geocities.com/rv8abldr/frontseat.html
Gert
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> What exactly does the RV-8 "Tall-man" option entail? What modifications are
made to the seat, weldment, etc? I'm not finding any mention of it on the plans.
If you order the Tall-man option with the QB kit, can you opt for the "Regular-man"
option at build time?
>
> Knowing nothing about what it actually is, I assume it pushes the weldment back
some allowing you to mount the pilot's seat further aft. While I am a "Tall-man",
my preference would actually be to increase the pilot's seat back recline
amount by moving the weldment back, but leaving the bottom of the seat in
the normal position. Is this possible?
>
> Does anyone have any detailed pictures of what the Tall-man option looks like
and specifically how it differs from the Regular-man option?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
>
>
>
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| Subject: | IO-360 with vertical sump |
Can any one tell me what they used for the throttle/mixture bracket
and throttle/mixture cable lengths for an IO-360 with a vertical sump?
I'm installing a TMX IO-360 with the experimental Precision fuel body.
Relative to a Carburetor, the throttle & mixture positions are reversed.
It looks like Van's Throttle/Mixture bracket is OK for the Throttle, but
will require modifications for the Mixture side. Also, it looks like the
cables have to be longer.
If anyone has pictures of this type of installation, and specifics on
the bracket and cable lengths, it would be a great help...
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV (Hope to be flying by Labor Day!)
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| Subject: | IO-360 with vertical sump |
I back fitted Airflow Performance fuel injection on RV-8A with a Van's
O-360-A1A. Both throttle and mixture required custom cable brackets, the
mixture being the far harder of the two. For the 8A the gear leg
interference is the problem.
I got a few lengths of 1x1 and 2x2 aluminum angle stock in 1/8" and 3/16"
thicknesses. Each bracket required two pieces of angle cut just right to
make the complex arm for where the control cable is secured. Once this is
done, fabricate the small piece of angle with the terminating hole for the
cable and bolt it to the now assembled arm. I trimmed the angle to clear
interference as needed, and to eliminate unnecessary bulk.
I had a lot of scrap aluminum and aluminum dust when I got done with this
painful evolution.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Stucklen
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Can any one tell me what they used for the throttle/mixture bracket and
throttle/mixture cable lengths for an IO-360 with a vertical sump? I'm
installing a TMX IO-360 with the experimental Precision fuel body. Relative
to a Carburetor, the throttle & mixture positions are reversed. It looks
like Van's Throttle/Mixture bracket is OK for the Throttle, but will require
modifications for the Mixture side. Also, it looks like the cables have to
be longer.
If anyone has pictures of this type of installation, and specifics on the
bracket and cable lengths, it would be a great help...
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV (Hope to be flying by Labor Day!)
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| Subject: | IO-360 with vertical sump |
I have a series of detail photos of the bracket I made for my RV-8A with a
Superior IO-360A1B with Airflow Performance fuel injection. As Carl says, it
took a lot of aluminum to come up with just the right combination that would
work. It's been awhile so I don't remember the details, but I can send the
photos or post them to a website if that would help.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
Stalled in the shop
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I back fitted Airflow Performance fuel injection on RV-8A with a Van's
O-360-A1A. Both throttle and mixture required custom cable brackets, the
mixture being the far harder of the two. For the 8A the gear leg
interference is the problem.
I got a few lengths of 1x1 and 2x2 aluminum angle stock in 1/8" and 3/16"
thicknesses. Each bracket required two pieces of angle cut just right to
make the complex arm for where the control cable is secured. Once this is
done, fabricate the small piece of angle with the terminating hole for the
cable and bolt it to the now assembled arm. I trimmed the angle to clear
interference as needed, and to eliminate unnecessary bulk.
I had a lot of scrap aluminum and aluminum dust when I got done with this
painful evolution.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Stucklen
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Can any one tell me what they used for the throttle/mixture bracket and
throttle/mixture cable lengths for an IO-360 with a vertical sump? I'm
installing a TMX IO-360 with the experimental Precision fuel body. Relative
to a Carburetor, the throttle & mixture positions are reversed. It looks
like Van's Throttle/Mixture bracket is OK for the Throttle, but will require
modifications for the Mixture side. Also, it looks like the cables have to
be longer.
If anyone has pictures of this type of installation, and specifics on the
bracket and cable lengths, it would be a great help...
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV (Hope to be flying by Labor Day!)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | IO-360 with vertical sump |
Terry, I would like to see any photos you have. I am installing (actually,
trying to figure out how) the AFP FI on my IO-360.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, Ga
www.FlightInnovations.com <http://www.flightinnovations.com/>
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I have a series of detail photos of the bracket I made for my RV-8A with a
Superior IO-360A1B with Airflow Performance fuel injection. As Carl says, it
took a lot of aluminum to come up with just the right combination that would
work. It's been awhile so I don't remember the details, but I can send the
photos or post them to a website if that would help.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
Stalled in the shop
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I back fitted Airflow Performance fuel injection on RV-8A with a Van's
O-360-A1A. Both throttle and mixture required custom cable brackets, the
mixture being the far harder of the two. For the 8A the gear leg
interference is the problem.
I got a few lengths of 1x1 and 2x2 aluminum angle stock in 1/8" and 3/16"
thicknesses. Each bracket required two pieces of angle cut just right to
make the complex arm for where the control cable is secured. Once this is
done, fabricate the small piece of angle with the terminating hole for the
cable and bolt it to the now assembled arm. I trimmed the angle to clear
interference as needed, and to eliminate unnecessary bulk.
I had a lot of scrap aluminum and aluminum dust when I got done with this
painful evolution.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Stucklen
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Can any one tell me what they used for the throttle/mixture bracket and
throttle/mixture cable lengths for an IO-360 with a vertical sump? I'm
installing a TMX IO-360 with the experimental Precision fuel body. Relative
to a Carburetor, the throttle & mixture positions are reversed. It looks
like Van's Throttle/Mixture bracket is OK for the Throttle, but will require
modifications for the Mixture side. Also, it looks like the cables have to
be longer.
If anyone has pictures of this type of installation, and specifics on the
bracket and cable lengths, it would be a great help...
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV (Hope to be flying by Labor Day!)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 with vertical sump |
MessageEmail Don at AFP or give him a call. I believe he has a photo
library of installation examples.
Dick Sipp
RV10 N110DV
----- Original Message -----
From: Bret Smith
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Terry, I would like to see any photos you have. I am installing
(actually, trying to figure out how) the AFP FI on my IO-360.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, Ga
www.FlightInnovations.com
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:49 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I have a series of detail photos of the bracket I made for my RV-8A
with a Superior IO-360A1B with Airflow Performance fuel injection. As
Carl says, it took a lot of aluminum to come up with just the right
combination that would work. It's been awhile so I don't remember the
details, but I can send the photos or post them to a website if that
would help.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
Stalled in the shop
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:10 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I back fitted Airflow Performance fuel injection on RV-8A with a Van's
O-360-A1A. Both throttle and mixture required custom cable brackets,
the mixture being the far harder of the two. For the 8A the gear leg
interference is the problem.
I got a few lengths of 1x1 and 2x2 aluminum angle stock in 1/8" and
3/16" thicknesses. Each bracket required two pieces of angle cut just
right to make the complex arm for where the control cable is secured.
Once this is done, fabricate the small piece of angle with the
terminating hole for the cable and bolt it to the now assembled arm. I
trimmed the angle to clear interference as needed, and to eliminate
unnecessary bulk.
I had a lot of scrap aluminum and aluminum dust when I got done with
this painful evolution.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Stucklen
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:04 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Can any one tell me what they used for the throttle/mixture bracket
and throttle/mixture cable lengths for an IO-360 with a vertical sump?
I'm installing a TMX IO-360 with the experimental Precision fuel body.
Relative to a Carburetor, the throttle & mixture positions are reversed.
It looks like Van's Throttle/Mixture bracket is OK for the Throttle, but
will require modifications for the Mixture side. Also, it looks like the
cables have to be longer.
If anyone has pictures of this type of installation, and specifics
on the bracket and cable lengths, it would be a great help...
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV (Hope to be flying by Labor Day!)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | IO-360 with vertical sump |
I posted the pictures on this website: tcwatson.zenfolio.com. Look for the
RV-8A details gallery. Feel free to poke around my other photos. There are a
few very old photos of T-37 formation aerobatics by one of my pilot training
classmates that are fun.
Terry
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Terry, I would like to see any photos you have. I am installing (actually,
trying to figure out how) the AFP FI on my IO-360.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, Ga
www.FlightInnovations.com <http://www.flightinnovations.com/>
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I have a series of detail photos of the bracket I made for my RV-8A with a
Superior IO-360A1B with Airflow Performance fuel injection. As Carl says, it
took a lot of aluminum to come up with just the right combination that would
work. It's been awhile so I don't remember the details, but I can send the
photos or post them to a website if that would help.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
Stalled in the shop
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