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1. 04:58 AM - Re: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/20/08 (glen matejcek)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: IO-360 with vertical sump (Bret Smith)
3. 06:33 AM - Re: RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... (Larry Mac Donald)
4. 07:29 AM - Re: IO-360 Throttle/Mixture Installation (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
5. 10:19 AM - October Page, Az. Fly-In (Roger Lee)
6. 02:08 PM - IO-360 with vertical sump (James H Nelson)
7. 02:39 PM - Andair Corrosion (Dave Saylor)
8. 08:48 PM - RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... (FASTPILOTRV8)
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| Subject: | RE: RV8-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/20/08 |
Hi Matt-
I'm the 6' 5" guy. I fit with the std seats, but fit much better with the
mod. IIRC, it moves the cross member aft 1 1/2". My wife is 5' 10" and
fits fine in the back seat. I will be able to fly from the rear seat with
the mod, but I wouldn't want to do it for very long. Cutting down (or
otherwise modding) the rear seat throttle will be pretty much required to
clear a tall person's knee, unless perhaps they are very much skinnier than
I.
One caveat: The original 'tall man' weldment moves the cross member
straight back without lowering it at all. The original plans made no
mention of the need to make the back of the rear seat taller. I forget the
dimension, but it is on the order of 3/4". Without that mod, the original
design seat back will just pass under the weldment. When making the taller
seat, just stretch the seat back sheet metal to match the increase in
dimension of the vertical members.
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
> Fellow Listers,
>
> What exactly does the RV-8 "Tall-man" option entail? What modifications
are made
> to the seat, weldment, etc? I'm not finding any mention of it on the
plans.
> If you order the Tall-man option with the QB kit, can you opt for the
"Regular-man"
> option at build time?
>
> Knowing nothing about what it actually is, I assume it pushes the
weldment back
> some allowing you to mount the pilot's seat further aft. While I am a
"Tall-man",
> my preference would actually be to increase the pilot's seat back recline
> amount by moving the weldment back, but leaving the bottom of the seat in
the
> normal position. Is this possible?
>
> Does anyone have any detailed pictures of what the Tall-man option looks
like and
> specifically how it differs from the Regular-man option?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 with vertical sump |
MessageThank you Terry, very nicely done. That is a great help.
Bret Smith
RV-9A "Canopy"
Blue Ridge, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Watson
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I posted the pictures on this website: tcwatson.zenfolio.com. Look
for the RV-8A details gallery. Feel free to poke around my other photos.
There are a few very old photos of T-37 formation aerobatics by one of
my pilot training classmates that are fun.
Terry
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:40 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
Terry, I would like to see any photos you have. I am installing
(actually, trying to figure out how) the AFP FI on my IO-360.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, Ga
www.FlightInnovations.com
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:49 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 with vertical sump
I have a series of detail photos of the bracket I made for my RV-8A
with a Superior IO-360A1B with Airflow Performance fuel injection. As
Carl says, it took a lot of aluminum to come up with just the right
combination that would work. It's been awhile so I don't remember the
details, but I can send the photos or post them to a website if that
would help.
Terry
RV-8A #80729
Stalled in the shop
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... |
Matt,
I think it only means an option that was available at the
begining.
A different way to build the rudder pedals whereby you pull a lanyard
between your legs, at the floor, and push or pull the spring loaded
pedals to suit the length of your legs. HTH
Larry Mac Donald
lm4@juno.com
Rochester N.Y.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:54:03 -0700 Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
writes:
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> What exactly does the RV-8 "Tall-man" option entail? >
> I assume it pushes the
> weldment back some allowing you to mount the pilot's seat further
> aft.
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
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| Subject: | RE: IO-360 Throttle/Mixture Installation |
ED,
Thanks for the reply. I'm installing the Precision Silver hawk Fuel
body, which is essentially the same as the old Bendix unit, on a
vertical sump TMX IO-360. Relative to a Carburetor, the throttle and
mixture arms on the Fuel Body are reversed, and, as you have implied,
the mixture arm requires an insert into the FAB box (or a 3/4" spacer
between the FAB box and the Fuel Body). The bracket Van's supplies for
the Carburetors is wrong for both throttle and mixture without some
major changes. And, yes, there appears to be room in the cowl for the
use of the spacer....
What I am looking at now is a custom made bracket that is designed in
a manner similar to Van's unit. I figure I can make it out of .050" alum
by bending the flanges in between two pieces of 3/4" plywood (using a
hammer to "persuade it to bend...).
What I don't know yet is the required cable lengths. It would seem
that they would have to be shorter than vans recommended cables for a
carburetor as the bracket tabs for mounting the cables are closer to the
firewall. How much shorter, I don't know. I do have a set of cables from
Van's, but I ordered cables that were longer. Might have to return
them....
The RV- Listers have given me a lot of ideas to work with. If I come
up with a successful bracket design, I'll make a formal drawing and post
it on the list, along with my resultant cable lengths......
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV
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From: Ed Pettiss [mailto:pettisse@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:18 AM
Subject: IO-360 Throttle/Mixture Installation
Most of the replies you got so far talk about making a custom bracket
for an 8A. For my RV-7A with Superior IO-360 and vertical Precision fuel
servo body, Van's sold me a ready-made mixture bracket (although I think
I might have had to cut one face.) I definitely had to buy longer
cables.
I can do a check of receipts for the part numbers and cable lengths, but
I probably won't get to the hangar until Wednesday - maybe tomorrow. I
suspect you'll hear from other 7A builders today, but let me know
off-line from the list if you'd like me to do that.
Are you using Van's standard FAB airbox? If the TMX IO-360 is like the
Superior (I suspect), do you know that you might have to create an inset
in the FAB for the mixture arm to hang down into? This one I know --
it's a VA-131-Q Mixture Arm Recess -- and I have good pictures to show
what this is all about.
Give me a call directly if you'd like to discuss.
Ed Pettiss
RV-7A N12KE flying
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| Subject: | October Page, Az. Fly-In |
Ok Guys and Gals,
Here is the important info. You are all invited.
The Flight Design group gets together each October for a fun few days. We will
fly Monument Vally, Lake Powell, Marble Canyon, Grand canyon and Bryce Canyon.
We take ground side trips during the day. We have other aircraft that come and
we would like to invite the Allegro pilots.
It is Oct. 16th Thursday and go home on Oct. 19th Sunday. We always have a great
time. Everyone attending is fun to be with and gets along very well.
We have a special rate at the same place we stayed last year.
Tell them you are with the "CT Group" and the rate is $49 a night. We will arrive
Thursday morning, Oct. 16th. and head home Oct. 19th. Sunday morning.
Best Western Arizona Inn
716 Rim View Dr.
Page, Az.
800-826-2718
928-645-2456
We will fly into the Page airport - KPGA.
We are staying with the Classic FBO and with our group we should get a .30 cent
discount on fuel.
Classic is not the first FBO next to the runway, but the second one behind them.
The Antelope Canyon tour is open if anyone wants. This is a land tour.
I did some checking for those who are interested. We can take a Lake Powell lake
tour by boat..
One is an evening dinner tour. It is 2.5 hours and serves Prime rib or Lasagna.
It cost $87.67 per person.
The other one is a boat tour that last 3 hours and goes through some famous canyons,
the Navajo Tapestry tour. It cost $63.52.
Orrrr we can rent 19" power boats our selves and take them out and explore the
lake and fingers. The cost of the boat is $325 a day (8am-5pm). They hold eight
people and this is only $40 a person.
Any of the boat items they would like a 24 hour notice.
These are only some ideas that I checked on. We don't have to do them and if only
some want to do them that is ok.
You guys are welcome to invite other planes that are not CT's and everyone is welcome.
Find some more LSA's.
_________________
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maint. Rated
Rotax Service Center
(520) 574-1080
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Service Center
520-574-1080
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | IO-360 with vertical sump |
Bret,
I have AFP FI on my IO 360 and I made custom brackets. You can
see them on my web site at www.websites.expercraft.com/jimn and if that
is not enough, I can e=mail you the pix I took to mount the system. I
used the material that AFP provided and cut pieces to make up the
brackets and had them welded to mount the cables. I could have had a
longer mixture cable and it would have been better. THe only fire wlall
position that matched up was for the throttle. I made the bracket such
that it was a straight shot to the throttle linkage. The mixture bracket
was such that I had the cable come down from the top , just clearing the
fuel pump and terminating with the lainkage working thru the vertical
mode. That penetrated the fire wall thru the off set for the oil filter.
I have a 90* adapter so the filter mounts in the "vertical mode. That
freeded up that area. Again, if you want more pix I can send them to
you. It all works out fine as I have 5 hours TT on the airframe, Just
cleared to fly--- keep pounding as they are fine birds to take flight.
Jim
N15JN
RV9-A
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| Subject: | Andair Corrosion |
Here's a picture of an Andair GAS500 fuel bowl showing the nice little
nozzle created by corrosion all the way through the bowl. The pilot was
complaining of fuel smell. The plane is a Legacy that started flying in
2003. It has about 500 hours.
Before the corrosion got all the way through, the inside of the bowl had a
small, shiny, unanodized patch where the corrosion started. The outside
looks perfect except for a small black speck where the hole comes through.
Check carefully!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | RV-8 "Tall-man" Option... |
Matt
The tall man option shifts the seat backwards by changing out the steel bar that
the top of the seat rest on. You then should move the piano hinge on the floor
that the seat back connects to aft about an inch or two. My knees still
hit the panel when I get in. I do prefer being back away from the panel.
Dane Sheahen
N838RV RV8
Anyone going to OSH is welcome to stop in our campsite at Camp Schooler (just west
of the "Theater In The Woods") for our nightly past time which is "Drink
Dicks Beer" (Dick Martin a RV8 IO-390 Driver)
In a message dated 07/21/08 08:35:42 Central Daylight Time, lm4@juno.com writes:
Matt,
I think it only means an option that was available at the
begining.
A different way to build the rudder pedals whereby you pull a lanyard
between your legs, at the floor, and push or pull the spring loaded
pedals to suit the length of your legs. HTH
Larry Mac Donald
lm4@juno.com
Rochester N.Y.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:54:03 -0700 Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
writes:
>
>
> Fellow Listers,
>
> What exactly does the RV-8 "Tall-man" option entail? >
> I assume it pushes the
> weldment back some allowing you to mount the pilot's seat further
> aft.
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880
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