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| Subject: | Re: A Tough Decision |
> After spending months researching Builder Liability Issues, I have decided
> to donate Cappys Toy to an Aviation Museum.
>
What is it you found during your research that made you go this route?
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Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
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It's ashame Kenwood doesn't make aviation radios. There are 2 or 3
different parts stores that you can buy virtually any part for one of
their current, and even a lot of their discontinued radios. At least
you can for their commercial and ham radios, not sure about the consumer
FRS type radios, if Kenwood even sales them anymore. Unfortunately it
is darn near impossible to get parts for Icom radios.
Carlos Hernandez wrote:
> <carlosh@structuralaz.com>
>
> Bill,
> Sorry to say, but other than IcomAmerica in Washington, there are no
> parts available or a repair station you can send it to for repair.
> They won't even send you parts. You have to send it back to them. I've
> sent mine in for repair before and I've been advised to take special
> precaution with the tuning knobs when shipping as they are some of the
> most expensive parts to replace. I'm guessing your quote maybe be up
> there along the lines of a new radio. Of course check with them first.
> Sorry for the misfortune.
>
> Carlos in AZ
>
> Bill Boyd wrote:
>> Fellow aviators:
>>
>> A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax
>> seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process
>> bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.
>> The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring
>> (MHz) selector, and needs repair.
>>
>> I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
>> replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit,
>> nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop
>> is I can find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner
>> radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement
>> A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.
>>
>> Any help out there?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill B/ Stormy RV-6A
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Checked by AVG.
>
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Chris W
KE5GIX
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Chris-
Long time Kenwood TS-430 & 440 user here, but I have no beef with Icom
radios - I own an IC-703 I will be using wilderness-portable most of the
afternnoon today, and an IC-7000 in the shack, both of which I'm quite happy
with. More impressed with Yaesu's hand-held VHF stuff than anyone else's
(my FT-23R is still as durable as the day I bought it in 1985). But you are
right about Icom's service on avionics - I called the factory and spoke with
service and parts dept. All I can get out of them is the labor rate
($84/hr) and the rotary encoder price ($25), but the tech had no idea how
long it would take to solder in a new one - so I have no idea if this is a
$100 repair or a $400 repair. Frustrating. Since I could do this myself if
the part was available - and I'm not a factory-trained service tech, but
just a dangerous ham with a soldering iron - I tend to think it's closer to
a one-hour minumum job, but I hate handing them a blank check and not
knowing.
Shucks, it's just money - and everyone knows it is money, not lift, that
keeps planes in the air. I have one offer for a new A200 at a fair price,
so probably going that route now and repair the old one later for resale or
unicom use here at the farm.
On a side note, my LightSpeed Mach One in-ear headset broke again today -
earpiece stem sheared off inside the custom ear mold. Second time this has
happened, and last time they replaced it for free with a newly reconditioned
unit, no questions asked. Now THAT'S customer service. This time I have
some questions for them - about a trade in toward their Zulu ANR haedset.
Headset breakage in flight is a safety of flight issue, and I'm also finding
iit takes too long to unplug and re-fit those ear buds each time I get all
strapped in and realize the oil door is unlocked or the pitot cover is still
on ;-) Checklist items, I know... but I've been there too many times.
Thanks to all who replied. Fly safe.
-Bill
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Chris W<3edcft6@cox.net> wrote:
>
> It's ashame Kenwood doesn't make aviation radios. There are 2 or 3
> different parts stores that you can buy virtually any part for one of their
> current, and even a lot of their discontinued radios. At least you can for
> their commercial and ham radios, not sure about the consumer FRS type
> radios, if Kenwood even sales them anymore. Unfortunately it is darn near
> impossible to get parts for Icom radios.
>
> Carlos Hernandez wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> Bill,
>> Sorry to say, but other than IcomAmerica in Washington, there are no parts
>> available or a repair station you can send it to for repair. They won't even
>> send you parts. You have to send it back to them. I've sent mine in for
>> repair before and I've been advised to take special precaution with the
>> tuning knobs when shipping as they are some of the most expensive parts to
>> replace. I'm guessing your quote maybe be up there along the lines of a new
>> radio. Of course check with them first. Sorry for the misfortune.
>>
>> Carlos in AZ
>>
>> Bill Boyd wrote:
>>
>>> Fellow aviators:
>>>
>>> A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat
>>> of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the
>>> tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft. The radio has
>>> since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs
>>> repair.
>>>
>>> I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a
>>> replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor
>>> opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can
>>> find a reasonable quote. Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get
>>> the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap
>>> first / repair later.
>>>
>>> Any help out there?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bill B/ Stormy RV-6A
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Checked by AVG.
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Chris W
> KE5GIX
>
> "Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at
> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm"
>
> Ham Radio Repeater Database.
> http://hrrdb.com
>
>
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Yea, just ship it to ICOM America Washington State (near Seattle). I'm not sure
about cost but I don't think its near the cost of a new radio. Call them first,
get the return authorization.
You may want to get insurance or tracking # or signature required (one of the
above but not all). USPS has been losing stuff lately. I ship a lot of items
USPS.
Stuff happens, you have to fix it and the factory is the only way. Parts, manuals,
tools and test equip makes it not user fixable (my guess).
You could hunt eBay or the aviation classifieds for a used unit? They go for
at least $400-$600 depending on condition, used, still in box. If you buy a new
or used unit, still get the old one fixed. You can keep it for spare or sell
it. It's not working right? You have to fix it.
I would advise you don't even try and take it apart and as Carlos, there is no
manual or parts.
Personally I like ICOM and Narco's factory repair only deal. I find avionics
shops to be good with some gear but cost wise and quality you are going to get
more consistency. Yes its a monopoly but the cost of a new A200 is only $600-$800
depending on if you got it on sale.
I think Garmin also has factory repair and they have like a flat cost no matter
what, in the $200-$300 range, may be it goes up from there. That might be a
little unfair, to have such high min charge, but it could work to your advantage
may be.
Things now a days are just plug and replace whole boards or panels. They don't
go in and fiddle with individual capacitors. Most of that stuff is surface mount
or in IC chips. Try getting a new flat screen LCD or Plazma fixed. The min
charge is $200-$300 (that is why I got extended warranty).
Its a bummer and sorry that happened but in RV's the panel is kind of prone to
hitting with body parts of cargo when loading. I know one guy who took out one
of his rear canopy fixed quarter panel and put a cargo door in (tip up RV-6).
That way he does not have to go over the front seats.
For slider canopies on side by side RV's, there is a reverse tip up mod, which
makes access to the baggage area easy.
Its a good thing to remind people to be careful. May be a little semi hard fiberglass
panel or cover can be made to pop over the panel or avionics where knobs
sticking out that can be hit and bent. You could store the cover in some out
of the way place under the panel when not in use? The cover could be very light
composite sandwich construction.
Cheers
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