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     1. 06:28 AM - FOR SALE - RV6 (Gene Gottschalk)
     2. 07:35 AM - Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit (Michael Karatsonyi)
     3. 07:46 AM - Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit (John Lenhardt)
     4. 07:58 AM - Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit (John Lenhardt)
     5. 09:03 AM - RV-8 on Grove Gear (Christopher Stone)
     6. 10:56 AM - Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) (Matt Dralle)
     7. 12:13 PM - RV6-A for sale website (Jim)
     8. 04:22 PM - Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear (MLWynn@aol.com)
     9. 06:07 PM - Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 
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      RV 6 project for sale. Over $20,000 invested. Empange done, wings done
      (Except main skins on starboard wing), fuselage ready to remove from jig and
      place on gear. Includes finishing kit and many options. Contact me off the
      list for additional information and complete list. Asking less than 1/2
      price. Make offer, seller "motivated".
      
      miranda@tartan30.org
      
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| Subject:  | FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit | 
      
      
      i am inter3sted in your pneumatic squeezer=2C how much?
      
      From: av8or@cox.netTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV
      10 Quickbuild KitDate: Sun=2C 27 Jul 2008 13:29:06 -0400
      
      
      Due to medical condition and financial situation=2C I am selling my Van=92s
       Aircraft RV-10 quickbuild kit consisting of the empennage=2C wing=2C and f
      uselage kits.  I=92ve only started on the tail kit with minimal work being 
      done on parts preparation without any assembly.  Extras included are the la
      nding light kit=2C float fuel sending units=2C and flap positioning system.
      
      Also=2C available is a brand new pneumatic rivet squeezer.
      
      Cost over $40=2C000.  Asking $38=2C000.
      
      Please contact me off list at 540-774-0387 or email av8or@cox.net   Located
       in SW VA.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit | 
      
      I'm sorry.  It's already sold, but if it falls through, I'll let you 
      know.
      
      John
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        From: Michael Karatsonyi 
        To: rv-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:30 AM
        Subject: RE: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit
      
      
        i am inter3sted in your pneumatic squeezer, how much?
      
      
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        Subject: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit
        Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:29:06 -0400
      
      
        Due to medical condition and financial situation, I am selling my 
      Van=92s Aircraft RV-10 quickbuild kit consisting of the empennage, wing, 
      and fuselage kits.  I=92ve only started on the tail kit with minimal 
      work being done on parts preparation without any assembly.  Extras 
      included are the landing light kit, float fuel sending units, and flap 
      positioning system.
      
      
        Also, available is a brand new pneumatic rivet squeezer.
      
      
        Cost over $40,000.  Asking $38,000.
      
      
        Please contact me off list at 540-774-0387 or email av8or@cox.net   
      Located in SW VA.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit | 
      
      Sorry list.  Wrong reply button.
      
      Do Not Archive
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        From: John Lenhardt 
        To: rv-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:43 AM
        Subject: Re: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit
      
      
        I'm sorry.  It's already sold, but if it falls through, I'll let you 
      know.
      
        John
      
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| Subject:  | RV-8 on Grove Gear | 
      
      
      As an occasional poster but daily reader...  And having searched the archives...
      
      I am hoping someone on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove airfoiled
      gear legs. 
      
      I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the Grove legs
      are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would need to be
      30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel).
      
      Because of the increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond the fuse
      skin.  My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between the gear legs
      and fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs.  I don't think
      ommiting the wear plates is a good idea.
      
      Thus my question, what have other done?  Does the gear leg inersection fairing
      cover up the protruding gear leg attach block?
      
      Chris Stone
      Newberg, OR
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) | 
      
      At 10:50 AM 7/23/2008  Wednesday, you wrote:
      >
      >Hi Matt,
      >
      >Welcome back to this crazy and rewarding thing that we do! ;) What make/model
      is the entertainment system?  What influenced your decision?
      
      I went with the Kenwood DNX8120 for a number of reasons.  Certainly the "coolness"
      factor had a little to do with it, and, well, I'm trying to see just how many
      LCD flatpanels I can wedge into an RV-8 instrument panel...  :-)  
      
      Seriously, though, the DNX8120 has a lot of features that come in a nicely integrated
      solution.  The 7" LCD is very clear and bright.  It has both an iPod control
      interface and a USB hard drive/thumb drive interface.  More on those later.
      It has a Garmin-based full moving map with POI database, which is probably
      not exactly useful in an airplane, but here's a situation:  Let's say you're
      flying along on a cross country to somewhere far away and suddenly you've got
      a huge hanker'n for an A&W Papa Burger and a frosty mug of Root Beer.  Your next
      way point could then easily include a local city with just such an establishment.
      Doesn't A&W have car hops?  Maybe they'll rollerskate out to the RV-8...
      Okay, its a stretch, but I had to justify the coolness somehow...
      
      It has a "touch-screen" where all but a couple of things can be viewed, configured,
      and changed.  The upside of the touch screen is ease of use and "coolness",
      but the downside are the finger prints and ultimate wear on the screen.  The
      screen is "fingerprint resistant", but sweaty fingers still leave prints.  There
      are some "hard-buttons" for Volume control and switching sources.
      
      It also has a "rear-view" camera for "check-six" (very tiny and clear).  Kind of
      like a rearview mirror actually.  Very cool. 
      
      Audio quality of the DVD player, MP3, XM, and HD radio are all extremely clear.
      I've got a PM3000 stereo intercom and new Bose NR headsets and the audio is
      stellar to say the least.  
      
      Kenwood also makes a matching 7" "headrest" rest flat panel (Kenwood LZ-702IR 
      ) that I will be mounting to the back of the pilot's set so the passenger can enjoy
      some "in-flight" entertainment.
      
      The iPod direct control interface works really well and will stream both music
      and videos off your iPod.  The downside is that it appears to use the line-level
      audio output from the iPod, so the quality suffers a little.  Does anyone know
      if you can stream digital audio from the iPod? 
      
      The USB harddisk/thumbdrive interface (can be connected at the same time as the
      iPod interface), works very well and the audio quality is superb since the D/A
      conversion is done in the Kenwood.  The downside is the severely limited number
      of MP3 file the Kenwood seems to be able to handle.  It appears to be a little
      over 3000 tracks.  I have a 160GB 2.5" USB hard drive with about 100GB of
      MP3's and I was hoping to be able to access all 18,000 tracks, but it won't seem
      to read them all.  Maybe on the next firmware update.  There is no track limitation
      on the iPod interface and the Kenwood lists all 80GB of MP3's I have
      on the iPod.
      
      There is full bluetooth integration as well.  It sync's up with my Blackberry 8820
      great and I can dial and place calls right from the Kenwood with phone audio
      coming through the Bose headsets.  Voice pickup is through a dedicated microphone
      plugged into the Kenwood; I'm not sure how well that will work in the noise
      airplane environment, however. 
      
      The Garmin-based GPS Navigation works great!  The maps are very detailed and updates
      are quick.  There are a TON of POI's and all include address and phone number.
      It will be interesting to bring up the ground speed on the Kenwood and
      compare to the GRT to A-B test the response time.  Probably aren't too many car
      installations where the cruse speed will exceed 200mph!
      
      So, to summarize, the Kenwood DNX8120 is an very nice, high-quality, highly integrated
      entertainment system that makes a nice installation in the panel.  Perhaps
      the only downside to it is the weight.  The HU itself is pretty heavy and
      all of the external "boxes" (XM, HD Radio, etc) add up too.  
      
      Here are a couple of links to the main unit and the remote screen:
      
              http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/Mobile_Video_n_Navigation/DNX8120
      
              http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/CarPortal%E2%84%A2/LZ-702IR
      
      Best regards,
      
      Matt Dralle
      RV-8 #82880
      
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| Subject:  | RV6-A for sale website | 
      
      My RV6-A is now actively being advertised for sale, see : 
      http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a36537/
      
      TT 45 Hr.
      Aero Sport-Power O-360-A1A 50 Hr.
      Hartzell C/S prop -50 Hr.
      Oil filter
      Aeroelectric connection Z-11 based wiring
      1 Slick mag 1 electronic ign.
      55 Amp. Nippon Denzo alternator
      Whelen wingtip strobes
      Wingtip landing lights with wigwags
      Automotive geared starter with extra new spare starter
      Navaid wing leveler (accepts handheld GPS waypoints)
      Altrack Altitude hold
      Dynon EFIS D10-A plus internal battery, OAT probe and remote compass 
      module 
      Analog, airspeed, altitude,fuel gauges
      Sirs compass
      Rocky mountain Instruments uMonitor & uEncoder also with remote compass 
      module
      SL-40 com - SL-70 Xponder
      PM-3000 stereo intercom
      Electric flaps
      Elevator and aileron trims on left stick
      Sliding canopy
      Professionally upholstered Conforfoam seats
      Removable control panel with removable instrument section.
      Custom built aluminium floors.
      Nose wheel fork mod done.
      Professionally painted yellow (very nicely visible), add decor (stripes 
      etc.) per taste
      Many painstaking hours spent on rigging, fit and finish.
      First annual done July 10 2008.
      
      Asking $99000.00
      
      The website is; http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a36537/  If you are 
      interested in further information contact.
      
      
      Jim Jewell in Kelowna B.C.
      jjewell @ telus.net
      Ph- (250) 861-8706 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear | 
      
      Hi Chris
      
      I am building an -8 and used the grove airfoil gear.  I used the wear  plates 
      that came in vans kit and the new clamp blocks that came with the grove  
      gear.  The inner one does not protrude.  It alls seems to fit just  fine under
      the 
      cover plates.  The fiberglass fairings will cover all  the outboard ones 
      without problem.
      
      My bird is up on the gear now.  The Grove gear look pretty good and  you get 
      to avoid all the gear fairing stuff.  Good choice from my limited  frame of 
      reference.
      
      Regards,
      
      Michael Wynn
      RV 8 FWF
      San Ramon, CA
      
      
      In a message dated 7/28/2008 9:05:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
      rv8iator@earthlink.net writes:
      
      -->  RV-List message posted by: Christopher Stone  <rv8iator@earthlink.net>
      
      As an occasional poster but daily  reader...  And having searched the 
      archives...
      
      I am hoping someone  on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove 
      airfoiled gear legs.  
      
      I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the  Grove 
      legs are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would  need 
      to be 30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel).
      
      Because of the  increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond the 
      fuse skin.   My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between the 
      gear legs and  fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs.  I 
      don't think  ommiting the wear plates is a good idea.
      
      Thus my question, what have  other done?  Does the gear leg inersection 
      fairing cover up the  protruding gear leg attach block?
      
      Chris Stone
      Newberg,  OR
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear | 
      
      
      Michael, 
      
      How about posting some pictures of the gear legs with close ups and distance shots
      to get a idea what they look like on the plane.  When did you order them,
      when did you get them?  I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago and was told about
      10 weeks for delivery or more.
      
      Matt Dralle
      RV-8 #82880
      
      
      At 04:18 PM 7/28/2008  Monday, you wrote:
      >Hi Chris
      > 
      >I am building an -8 and used the grove airfoil gear.  I used the wear plates that
      came in vans kit and the new clamp blocks that came with the grove gear. 
      The inner one does not protrude.  It alls seems to fit just fine under the cover
      plates.  The fiberglass fairings will cover all the outboard ones without problem.
      > 
      >My bird is up on the gear now.  The Grove gear look pretty good and you get to
      avoid all the gear fairing stuff.  Good choice from my limited frame of reference.
      > 
      >Regards,
      > 
      >Michael Wynn
      >RV 8 FWF
      >San Ramon, CA
      > 
      >In a message dated 7/28/2008 9:05:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rv8iator@earthlink.net
      writes:
      >
      >As an occasional poster but daily reader...  And having searched the archives...
      >
      >I am hoping someone on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove airfoiled
      gear legs. 
      >
      >I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the Grove legs
      are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would need to be
      30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel).
      >
      >Because of the increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond the fuse
      skin.  My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between the gear
      legs and fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs.  I don't think
      ommiting the wear plates is a good idea.
      >
      >Thus my question, what have other done?  Does the gear leg inersection fairing
      cover up the protruding gear leg attach block?
      >
      >Chris Stone
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