---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/28/08: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:28 AM - FOR SALE - RV6 (Gene Gottschalk) 2. 07:35 AM - Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit (Michael Karatsonyi) 3. 07:46 AM - Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit (John Lenhardt) 4. 07:58 AM - Re: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit (John Lenhardt) 5. 09:03 AM - RV-8 on Grove Gear (Christopher Stone) 6. 10:56 AM - Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) (Matt Dralle) 7. 12:13 PM - RV6-A for sale website (Jim) 8. 04:22 PM - Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear (MLWynn@aol.com) 9. 06:07 PM - Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:18 AM PST US From: "Gene Gottschalk" Subject: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV6 RV 6 project for sale. Over $20,000 invested. Empange done, wings done (Except main skins on starboard wing), fuselage ready to remove from jig and place on gear. Includes finishing kit and many options. Contact me off the list for additional information and complete list. Asking less than 1/2 price. Make offer, seller "motivated". miranda@tartan30.org ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:29 AM PST US From: Michael Karatsonyi Subject: RE: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit i am inter3sted in your pneumatic squeezer=2C how much? From: av8or@cox.netTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV 10 Quickbuild KitDate: Sun=2C 27 Jul 2008 13:29:06 -0400 Due to medical condition and financial situation=2C I am selling my Van=92s Aircraft RV-10 quickbuild kit consisting of the empennage=2C wing=2C and f uselage kits. I=92ve only started on the tail kit with minimal work being done on parts preparation without any assembly. Extras included are the la nding light kit=2C float fuel sending units=2C and flap positioning system. Also=2C available is a brand new pneumatic rivet squeezer. Cost over $40=2C000. Asking $38=2C000. Please contact me off list at 540-774-0387 or email av8or@cox.net Located in SW VA. _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ family_safety_072008 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:23 AM PST US From: "John Lenhardt" Subject: Re: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit I'm sorry. It's already sold, but if it falls through, I'll let you know. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Karatsonyi To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit i am inter3sted in your pneumatic squeezer, how much? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: av8or@cox.net To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:29:06 -0400 Due to medical condition and financial situation, I am selling my Van=92s Aircraft RV-10 quickbuild kit consisting of the empennage, wing, and fuselage kits. I=92ve only started on the tail kit with minimal work being done on parts preparation without any assembly. Extras included are the landing light kit, float fuel sending units, and flap positioning system. Also, available is a brand new pneumatic rivet squeezer. Cost over $40,000. Asking $38,000. Please contact me off list at 540-774-0387 or email av8or@cox.net Located in SW VA. get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. Help protect your kids. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7/28/2008 6:55 AM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:42 AM PST US From: "John Lenhardt" Subject: Re: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit Sorry list. Wrong reply button. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: John Lenhardt To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: FOR SALE - RV10 Quickbuild Kit I'm sorry. It's already sold, but if it falls through, I'll let you know. John ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:21 AM PST US From: Christopher Stone Subject: RV-List: RV-8 on Grove Gear As an occasional poster but daily reader... And having searched the archives... I am hoping someone on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove airfoiled gear legs. I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the Grove legs are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would need to be 30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel). Because of the increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond the fuse skin. My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between the gear legs and fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs. I don't think ommiting the wear plates is a good idea. Thus my question, what have other done? Does the gear leg inersection fairing cover up the protruding gear leg attach block? Chris Stone Newberg, OR ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:56:10 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) At 10:50 AM 7/23/2008 Wednesday, you wrote: > >Hi Matt, > >Welcome back to this crazy and rewarding thing that we do! ;) What make/model is the entertainment system? What influenced your decision? I went with the Kenwood DNX8120 for a number of reasons. Certainly the "coolness" factor had a little to do with it, and, well, I'm trying to see just how many LCD flatpanels I can wedge into an RV-8 instrument panel... :-) Seriously, though, the DNX8120 has a lot of features that come in a nicely integrated solution. The 7" LCD is very clear and bright. It has both an iPod control interface and a USB hard drive/thumb drive interface. More on those later. It has a Garmin-based full moving map with POI database, which is probably not exactly useful in an airplane, but here's a situation: Let's say you're flying along on a cross country to somewhere far away and suddenly you've got a huge hanker'n for an A&W Papa Burger and a frosty mug of Root Beer. Your next way point could then easily include a local city with just such an establishment. Doesn't A&W have car hops? Maybe they'll rollerskate out to the RV-8... Okay, its a stretch, but I had to justify the coolness somehow... It has a "touch-screen" where all but a couple of things can be viewed, configured, and changed. The upside of the touch screen is ease of use and "coolness", but the downside are the finger prints and ultimate wear on the screen. The screen is "fingerprint resistant", but sweaty fingers still leave prints. There are some "hard-buttons" for Volume control and switching sources. It also has a "rear-view" camera for "check-six" (very tiny and clear). Kind of like a rearview mirror actually. Very cool. Audio quality of the DVD player, MP3, XM, and HD radio are all extremely clear. I've got a PM3000 stereo intercom and new Bose NR headsets and the audio is stellar to say the least. Kenwood also makes a matching 7" "headrest" rest flat panel (Kenwood LZ-702IR ) that I will be mounting to the back of the pilot's set so the passenger can enjoy some "in-flight" entertainment. The iPod direct control interface works really well and will stream both music and videos off your iPod. The downside is that it appears to use the line-level audio output from the iPod, so the quality suffers a little. Does anyone know if you can stream digital audio from the iPod? The USB harddisk/thumbdrive interface (can be connected at the same time as the iPod interface), works very well and the audio quality is superb since the D/A conversion is done in the Kenwood. The downside is the severely limited number of MP3 file the Kenwood seems to be able to handle. It appears to be a little over 3000 tracks. I have a 160GB 2.5" USB hard drive with about 100GB of MP3's and I was hoping to be able to access all 18,000 tracks, but it won't seem to read them all. Maybe on the next firmware update. There is no track limitation on the iPod interface and the Kenwood lists all 80GB of MP3's I have on the iPod. There is full bluetooth integration as well. It sync's up with my Blackberry 8820 great and I can dial and place calls right from the Kenwood with phone audio coming through the Bose headsets. Voice pickup is through a dedicated microphone plugged into the Kenwood; I'm not sure how well that will work in the noise airplane environment, however. The Garmin-based GPS Navigation works great! The maps are very detailed and updates are quick. There are a TON of POI's and all include address and phone number. It will be interesting to bring up the ground speed on the Kenwood and compare to the GRT to A-B test the response time. Probably aren't too many car installations where the cruse speed will exceed 200mph! So, to summarize, the Kenwood DNX8120 is an very nice, high-quality, highly integrated entertainment system that makes a nice installation in the panel. Perhaps the only downside to it is the weight. The HU itself is pretty heavy and all of the external "boxes" (XM, HD Radio, etc) add up too. Here are a couple of links to the main unit and the remote screen: http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/Mobile_Video_n_Navigation/DNX8120 http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/CarPortal%E2%84%A2/LZ-702IR Best regards, Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:46 PM PST US From: "Jim" Subject: RV-List: RV6-A for sale website My RV6-A is now actively being advertised for sale, see : http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a36537/ TT 45 Hr. Aero Sport-Power O-360-A1A 50 Hr. Hartzell C/S prop -50 Hr. Oil filter Aeroelectric connection Z-11 based wiring 1 Slick mag 1 electronic ign. 55 Amp. Nippon Denzo alternator Whelen wingtip strobes Wingtip landing lights with wigwags Automotive geared starter with extra new spare starter Navaid wing leveler (accepts handheld GPS waypoints) Altrack Altitude hold Dynon EFIS D10-A plus internal battery, OAT probe and remote compass module Analog, airspeed, altitude,fuel gauges Sirs compass Rocky mountain Instruments uMonitor & uEncoder also with remote compass module SL-40 com - SL-70 Xponder PM-3000 stereo intercom Electric flaps Elevator and aileron trims on left stick Sliding canopy Professionally upholstered Conforfoam seats Removable control panel with removable instrument section. Custom built aluminium floors. Nose wheel fork mod done. Professionally painted yellow (very nicely visible), add decor (stripes etc.) per taste Many painstaking hours spent on rigging, fit and finish. First annual done July 10 2008. Asking $99000.00 The website is; http://www3.telus.net/public/a6a36537/ If you are interested in further information contact. Jim Jewell in Kelowna B.C. jjewell @ telus.net Ph- (250) 861-8706 Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (4.0.0.26 - 10.100.007). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:24 PM PST US From: MLWynn@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 on Grove Gear Hi Chris I am building an -8 and used the grove airfoil gear. I used the wear plates that came in vans kit and the new clamp blocks that came with the grove gear. The inner one does not protrude. It alls seems to fit just fine under the cover plates. The fiberglass fairings will cover all the outboard ones without problem. My bird is up on the gear now. The Grove gear look pretty good and you get to avoid all the gear fairing stuff. Good choice from my limited frame of reference. Regards, Michael Wynn RV 8 FWF San Ramon, CA In a message dated 7/28/2008 9:05:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rv8iator@earthlink.net writes: --> RV-List message posted by: Christopher Stone As an occasional poster but daily reader... And having searched the archives... I am hoping someone on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove airfoiled gear legs. I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the Grove legs are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would need to be 30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel). Because of the increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond the fuse skin. My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between the gear legs and fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs. I don't think ommiting the wear plates is a good idea. Thus my question, what have other done? Does the gear leg inersection fairing cover up the protruding gear leg attach block? Chris Stone Newberg, OR **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:40 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-8 on Grove Gear Michael, How about posting some pictures of the gear legs with close ups and distance shots to get a idea what they look like on the plane. When did you order them, when did you get them? I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago and was told about 10 weeks for delivery or more. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 At 04:18 PM 7/28/2008 Monday, you wrote: >Hi Chris > >I am building an -8 and used the grove airfoil gear. I used the wear plates that came in vans kit and the new clamp blocks that came with the grove gear. The inner one does not protrude. It alls seems to fit just fine under the cover plates. The fiberglass fairings will cover all the outboard ones without problem. > >My bird is up on the gear now. The Grove gear look pretty good and you get to avoid all the gear fairing stuff. Good choice from my limited frame of reference. > >Regards, > >Michael Wynn >RV 8 FWF >San Ramon, CA > >In a message dated 7/28/2008 9:05:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rv8iator@earthlink.net writes: > >As an occasional poster but daily reader... And having searched the archives... > >I am hoping someone on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove airfoiled gear legs. > >I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the Grove legs are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would need to be 30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel). > >Because of the increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond the fuse skin. My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between the gear legs and fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs. I don't think ommiting the wear plates is a good idea. > >Thus my question, what have other done? Does the gear leg inersection fairing cover up the protruding gear leg attach block? > >Chris Stone >Newberg, es y --> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS nbsp; - List Contribution Web Site ; ======================== > > >---------- >Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. 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