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1. 04:09 AM - Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear (Kevin Horton)
2. 06:19 AM - Re: Battery --- Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) (Dan)
3. 11:48 AM - Re: Battery --- Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) (Matt Dralle)
4. 04:56 PM - RV-9A kit for sale (stewart)
5. 05:54 PM - Re: Battery --- Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back) (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:50 PM - Re: RV-9A kit for sale (Brian Meyette)
7. 08:23 PM - Re: RV-9A kit for sale (Carl Bell)
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Subject: | Re: RV-8 on Grove Gear |
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Christopher Stone
<rv8iator@earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> As an occasional poster but daily reader... And having searched the
> archives...
>
> I am hoping someone on this list has built a RV-8 and installed the Grove
> airfoiled gear legs.
>
> I am in the midst of installing the Grove legs and have found that the
> Grove legs are thicker (dhoo! that's right they are aluminum and thus would
> need to be 30% thicker to be as stiff as the steel).
>
> Because of the increased thickness the clamp blocks will protrude beyond
> the fuse skin. My first thought was to eliminate the wear blocks between
> the gear legs and fusalage to reduce the installed height of the gear legs.
> I don't think ommiting the wear plates is a good idea.
>
> Thus my question, what have other done? Does the gear leg inersection
> fairing cover up the protruding gear leg attach block?
>
The upper gear leg intersection fairing is a builder fabricated part. So,
you can make it whatever shape it needs to be to cover the clamp blocks and
bolt heads. Leave the wear plates in place. You don't want the gear
wearing at the longeron.
Kevin Horton
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Subject: | Re: Battery --- Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: |
Welcome back)
Matt,
Where did you install your battery?
I am still trying to decide where to install mine.
Dan
-8
AWO
--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back)
At 10:50 AM 7/23/2008 Wednesday, you wrote:
<david.nelson@pobox.com>
>
>Hi Matt,
>
>Welcome back to this crazy and rewarding thing that we do! ;) What
make/model is the entertainment system? What influenced your decision?
I went with the Kenwood DNX8120 for a number of reasons. Certainly the
"coolness" factor had a little to do with it, and, well, I'm
trying to see just how many LCD flatpanels I can wedge into an RV-8 instrument
panel... :-)
Seriously, though, the DNX8120 has a lot of features that come in a nicely
integrated solution. The 7" LCD is very clear and bright. It has both an
iPod control interface and a USB hard drive/thumb drive interface. More on
those later. It has a Garmin-based full moving map with POI database, which is
probably not exactly useful in an airplane, but here's a situation:
Let's say you're flying along on a cross country to somewhere far away
and suddenly you've got a huge hanker'n for an A&W Papa Burger and
a frosty mug of Root Beer. Your next way point could then easily include a
local city with just such an establishment. Doesn't A&W have car hops?
Maybe they'll rollerskate out to the RV-8... Okay, its a stretch, but I
had to justify the coolness somehow...
It has a "touch-screen" where all but a couple of things can be
viewed, configured, and changed. The upside of the touch screen is ease of use
and "coolness", but the downside are the finger prints and ultimate
wear on the screen. The screen is "fingerprint resistant", but
sweaty fingers still leave prints. There are some "hard-buttons" for
Volume control and switching sources.
It also has a "rear-view" camera for "check-six" (very tiny
and clear). Kind of like a rearview mirror actually. Very cool.
Audio quality of the DVD player, MP3, XM, and HD radio are all extremely clear.
I've got a PM3000 stereo intercom and new Bose NR headsets and the audio is
stellar to say the least.
Kenwood also makes a matching 7" "headrest" rest flat panel
(Kenwood LZ-702IR
) that I will be mounting to the back of the pilot's set so the passenger
can enjoy some "in-flight" entertainment.
The iPod direct control interface works really well and will stream both music
and videos off your iPod. The downside is that it appears to use the
line-level audio output from the iPod, so the quality suffers a little. Does
anyone know if you can stream digital audio from the iPod?
The USB harddisk/thumbdrive interface (can be connected at the same time as the
iPod interface), works very well and the audio quality is superb since the D/A
conversion is done in the Kenwood. The downside is the severely limited number
of MP3 file the Kenwood seems to be able to handle. It appears to be a little
over 3000 tracks. I have a 160GB 2.5" USB hard drive with about 100GB of
MP3's and I was hoping to be able to access all 18,000 tracks, but it
won't seem to read them all. Maybe on the next firmware update. There is
no track limitation on the iPod interface and the Kenwood lists all 80GB of
MP3's I have on the iPod.
There is full bluetooth integration as well. It sync's up with my
Blackberry 8820 great and I can dial and place calls right from the Kenwood
with phone audio coming through the Bose headsets. Voice pickup is through a
dedicated microphone plugged into the Kenwood; I'm not sure how well that
will work in the noise airplane environment, however.
The Garmin-based GPS Navigation works great! The maps are very detailed and
updates are quick. There are a TON of POI's and all include address and
phone number. It will be interesting to bring up the ground speed on the
Kenwood and compare to the GRT to A-B test the response time. Probably
aren't too many car installations where the cruse speed will exceed 200mph!
So, to summarize, the Kenwood DNX8120 is an very nice, high-quality, highly
integrated entertainment system that makes a nice installation in the panel.
Perhaps the only downside to it is the weight. The HU itself is pretty heavy
and all of the external "boxes" (XM, HD Radio, etc) add up too.
Here are a couple of links to the main unit and the remote screen:
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/Mobile_Video_n_Navigation/DNX8120
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/CarPortal%E2%84%A2/LZ-702IR
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880
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Subject: | Re: Battery --- Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: |
Welcome back)
Well, with an IO-390 and a Hartzell, its definitely going to have to go waaay in
the back. I've ordered the Grove gear to save a few pounds forward of CG.
Its just a bummer having to run the cables that far back there. I'm also wondering
if mounting the Redbox CU for the Vertical Power in the back next to the
battery might be a good place. Still, then all the wires would have to go up
forward to the panel, which isn't that attractive of an idea. In any case, I
can't imagine being sorry about mounting the battery in the back, especially
if you have a big motor and CS.
Matt
At 06:15 AM 7/29/2008 Tuesday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>Where did you install your battery?
>
>I am still trying to decide where to install mine.
>
>Dan
>
>-8
>
>AWO
>
>--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: Welcome back)
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 10:51 AM
>
>
>At 10:50 AM 7/23/2008 Wednesday, you wrote:
>
>
><david.nelson@pobox.com>
>
>>
>
>>Hi Matt,
>
>>
>
>>Welcome back to this crazy and rewarding thing that we do! ;) What
>
>make/model is the entertainment system? What influenced your decision?
>
>
>I went with the Kenwood DNX8120 for a number of reasons. Certainly the
>
>"coolness" factor had a little to do with it, and, well, I'm
>
>trying to see just how many LCD flatpanels I can wedge into an RV-8 instrument
>
>panel... :-)
>
>
>Seriously, though, the DNX8120 has a lot of features that come in a nicely
>
>integrated solution. The 7" LCD is very clear and bright. It has both an
>
>iPod control interface and a USB hard drive/thumb drive interface. More on
>
>those later. It has a Garmin-based full moving map with POI database, which is
>
>probably not exactly useful in an airplane, but here's a situation:
>
>Let's say you're flying along on a cross country to somewhere far away
>
>and suddenly you've got a huge hanker'n for an A&W Papa Burger and
>
>a frosty mug of Root Beer. Your next way point could then easily include a
>
>local city with just such an establishment. Doesn't A&W have car hops?
>
> Maybe they'll rollerskate out to the RV-8... Okay, its a stretch, but I
>
>had to justify the coolness somehow...
>
>
>It has a "touch-screen" where all but a couple of things can be
>
>viewed, configured, and changed. The upside of the touch screen is ease of use
>
>and "coolness", but the downside are the finger prints and ultimate
>
>wear on the screen. The screen is "fingerprint resistant", but
>
>sweaty fingers still leave prints. There are some "hard-buttons" for
>
>Volume control and switching sources.
>
>
>It also has a "rear-view" camera for "check-six" (very tiny
>
>and clear). Kind of like a rearview mirror actually. Very cool.
>
>
>Audio quality of the DVD player, MP3, XM, and HD radio are all extremely clear.
>
> I've got a PM3000 stereo intercom and new Bose NR headsets and the audio is
>
>stellar to say the least.
>
>
>Kenwood also makes a matching 7" "headrest" rest flat panel
>
>(Kenwood LZ-702IR
>
>) that I will be mounting to the back of the pilot's set so the passenger
>
>can enjoy some "in-flight" entertainment.
>
>
>The iPod direct control interface works really well and will stream both music
>
>and videos off your iPod. The downside is that it appears to use the
>
>line-level audio output from the iPod, so the quality suffers a little. Does
>
>anyone know if you can stream digital audio from the iPod?
>
>
>The USB harddisk/thumbdrive interface (can be connected at the same time as the
>
>iPod interface), works very well and the audio quality is superb since the D/A
>
>conversion is done in the Kenwood. The downside is the severely limited number
>
>of MP3 file the Kenwood seems to be able to handle. It appears to be a little
>
>over 3000 tracks. I have a 160GB 2.5" USB hard drive with about 100GB of
>
>MP3's and I was hoping to be able to access all 18,000 tracks, but it
>
>won't seem to read them all. Maybe on the next firmware update. There is
>
>no track limitation on the iPod interface and the Kenwood lists all 80GB of
>
>MP3's I have on the iPod.
>
>
>There is full bluetooth integration as well. It sync's up with my
>
>Blackberry 8820 great and I can dial and place calls right from the Kenwood
>
>with phone audio coming through the Bose headsets. Voice pickup is through a
>
>dedicated microphone plugged into the Kenwood; I'm not sure how well that
>
>will work in the noise airplane environment, however.
>
>
>The Garmin-based GPS Navigation works great! The maps are very detailed and
>
>updates are quick. There are a TON of POI's and all include address and
>
>phone number. It will be interesting to bring up the ground speed on the
>
>Kenwood and compare to the GRT to A-B test the response time. Probably
>
>aren't too many car installations where the cruse speed will exceed 200mph!
>
>
>So, to summarize, the Kenwood DNX8120 is an very nice, high-quality, highly
>
>integrated entertainment system that makes a nice installation in the panel.
>
>Perhaps the only downside to it is the weight. The HU itself is pretty heavy
>
>and all of the external "boxes" (XM, HD Radio, etc) add up too.
>
>
>Here are a couple of links to the main unit and the remote screen:
>
>
>
>
>http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/Mobile_Video_n_Navigation/DNX8120
>
>
> http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/CarPortal%E2%84%A2/LZ-702IR
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>Matt Dralle
>
>RV-8 #82880
>
>
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Subject: | RV-9A kit for sale |
Bought an RV-6, can't afford to keep building RV-9A too. Tail 80% done,
wings 60%, Van's quickbuild fuselage nearly as purchased, Lyc. 0-320
engine used, and aircraft tools. Asking $20,000 for all but will
consider splitting off engine/tools. Call at (509) 965-1209 or email
stucopeland@charter.net.
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Subject: | Re: Battery --- Re: Kenwood DNX8120 Entertainment System (was: |
Welcome back)
The IO-390 should be within a pound or two of the IO-360. One could go
with either an MT prop or Hartzell carbon fiber prop to reduce weight on
the front end by about 15 lbs.
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Well, with an IO-390 and a Hartzell, its definitely going to have to go waaay
in the back. I've ordered the Grove gear to save a few pounds forward of CG.
Its just a bummer having to run the cables that far back there. I'm also wondering
if mounting the Redbox CU for the Vertical Power in the back next to the
battery might be a good place. Still, then all the wires would have to go
up forward to the panel, which isn't that attractive of an idea. In any case,
I can't imagine being sorry about mounting the battery in the back, especially
if you have a big motor and CS.
>
> Matt
>
>
> At 06:15 AM 7/29/2008 Tuesday, you wrote:
>
>
>>
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Subject: | RV-9A kit for sale |
wow - seems like quite a flurry of planes & kits for sale lately
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stewart
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-9A kit for sale
Bought an RV-6, can't afford to keep building RV-9A too. Tail 80% done,
wings 60%, Van's quickbuild fuselage nearly as purchased, Lyc. 0-320 engine
used, and aircraft tools. Asking $20,000 for all but will consider
splitting off engine/tools. Call at (509) 965-1209 or email
stucopeland@charter.net.
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List"http://www.matronics.com/Navigat
or?RV-List
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Subject: | RV-9A kit for sale |
It's the price of gas and the stock market that is scaring a lot of retirees
like my self. I'm going to hang on and keep building my RV7, and
reprioritize things so I can do what I love. Crap who need health insurance
anyway? CJ
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-9A kit for sale
wow - seems like quite a flurry of planes & kits for sale lately
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stewart
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-9A kit for sale
Bought an RV-6, can't afford to keep building RV-9A too. Tail 80% done,
wings 60%, Van's quickbuild fuselage nearly as purchased, Lyc. 0-320 engine
used, and aircraft tools. Asking $20,000 for all but will consider
splitting off engine/tools. Call at (509) 965-1209 or email
stucopeland@charter.net.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?RV-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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