RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/05/08


Total Messages Posted: 25



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     1. 07:12 AM - Lost tool found at Oshkosh (Jeff Point)
     2. 07:48 AM - Re: Lost tool found at Oshkosh (Tim Olson)
     3. 08:07 AM - Re: Northern California Airports - Arcata/Eureka area (Jim CArey)
     4. 08:11 AM - Re: Lost tool found at Oshkosh (Tom Gummo)
     5. 09:04 AM - Leaking QB Tanks (James H Nelson)
     6. 09:56 AM - Tank Testing (Jerry Cochran)
     7. 10:29 AM - Re: Northern California Airports - Arcata/Eureka area (David Leonard)
     8. 11:11 AM - Re: Lost tool found at Oshkosh (steve)
     9. 12:43 PM - Leaking QB Tanks (James H Nelson)
    10. 12:56 PM - BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Matt Dralle)
    11. 01:30 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Tim Bryan)
    12. 01:52 PM - Re: Tank Testing (Alden D. Van Winkle)
    13. 02:20 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Greg Young)
    14. 03:35 PM - Re: Tank Testing (wskimike)
    15. 03:42 PM - Re: Tank Testing (Michael D. Cencula)
    16. 04:35 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (John Fasching)
    17. 05:19 PM - Re: Tank Testing (Timothy E. Cone)
    18. 05:24 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... ()
    19. 05:34 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Michael Ice)
    20. 05:51 PM - Another Fuel Question (rveighta)
    21. 06:21 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Jerry Springer)
    22. 06:48 PM - Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... (Scott)
    23. 06:58 PM - Re: Tank Testing (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
    24. 08:00 PM - Re: Leaking QB Tanks (Charlie England)
    25. 08:14 PM - Re: Another Fuel Question (Paul Rice)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:12:24 AM PST US
    From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Lost tool found at Oshkosh
    Listers, I just got back from Oshkosh, or I would have posted this sooner. On Saturday, while making my scooter rounds through the RV parking area, I came across a lost item laying on the ground. It is a common sheet metal hand tool from one of the well known tool vendors, still in the plastic packaging. It is not a mega-$ item, but not a cheapie either. I would like to return it to it's rightful owner. If anyone believes that they are the rightful owner, please contact me by email or private message. The rightful owner will obviously be able to describe exactly what the tool is and where it was lost (if you know.) If this is you, contact me and I'll make arrangements to get it to you by mail. Jeff Point RV-6 flying/ RV-8 building Milwaukee, WI do not archive


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    Time: 07:48:58 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Lost tool found at Oshkosh
    Well, it's worth a shot.... Is it a really cool pneumatic squeezer with a longeron yoke, and a sweet swivel air fitting on the bottom? :) (just kidding) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jeff Point wrote: > Listers, > > I just got back from Oshkosh, or I would have posted this sooner. On > Saturday, while making my scooter rounds through the RV parking area, I > came across a lost item laying on the ground. It is a common sheet metal > hand tool from one of the well known tool vendors, still in the plastic > packaging. > > It is not a mega-$ item, but not a cheapie either. I would like to > return it to it's rightful owner. If anyone believes that they are the > rightful owner, please contact me by email or private message. The > rightful owner will obviously be able to describe exactly what the tool > is and where it was lost (if you know.) If this is you, contact me and > I'll make arrangements to get it to you by mail. > > Jeff Point > RV-6 flying/ RV-8 building > Milwaukee, WI > do not archive >


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    Time: 08:07:46 AM PST US
    From: "Jim CArey" <tiger10@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Northern California Airports - Arcata/Eureka area
    HI I also have daughter and grand kids in Arcata and you don't want to go into ACV. That airport in not GA friendly. Where you want to go is Murray KEKA. Fuel should be less $ there is maintance on the field, There was a good coffee shop. Enterprise will come get you and you can drive to your plane if I remember right. Jim Carey RV 8A building _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Della & Robert Kennett Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:15 PM Subject: RV-List: Northern California Airports - Arcata/Eureka area We plan to fly down to Northern California in mid September to visit our grandson and are looking for advice on the best place to land. They live in the Arcata area and it looks like the options would either be Arcata or Murray Field. We will probably need to rent a car, as well as have tie-downs for a few days. We would appreciate any feedback and advice from listers who are familiar with this area. Please reply off list to rdkennett@shaw.ca. Thanks Rob Kennett RV-6A C-GRBK Do Not Archive __________ NOD32 3329 (20080805) Information __________


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    Time: 08:11:55 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Lost tool found at Oshkosh
    I lost a started RV-8 kit somewhere in the Milwaukee, WI area. Would you please finish it and return it to SOCAL. :-) GummiBear do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Point To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: RV-List: Lost tool found at Oshkosh Listers, I just got back from Oshkosh, or I would have posted this sooner. On Saturday, while making my scooter rounds through the RV parking area, I came across a lost item laying on the ground. It is a common sheet metal hand tool from one of the well known tool vendors, still in the plastic packaging. It is not a mega-$ item, but not a cheapie either. I would like to return it to it's rightful owner. If anyone believes that they are the rightful owner, please contact me by email or private message. The rightful owner will obviously be able to describe exactly what the tool is and where it was lost (if you know.) If this is you, contact me and I'll make arrangements to get it to you by mail. Jeff Point RV-6 flying/ RV-8 building Milwaukee, WI do not archive __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3329 (20080805) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.


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    Time: 09:04:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Leaking QB Tanks
    From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
    Tim, I got my response from Van's and it is the same. The accumulated dye, from evaporation, causes the break down of the sealant when it is exposed to oxygen from the leaks. Having been in the chemical industry (sort of) the dye's that are used are often oil based. I was confused on the first indications of the "blue stuff". It felt like grease and acted like it. Now, having stood back from the problem, the accumulation of dye can have a degrading effect on the "Proseal". My previous aircraft have all used mogas so I was not in the "blue" mode when the leaks occurred. I now have to remove the cover and put some new Proseal inside to stop the leaks. Van's also reminded me to use Proseal on the cover and a bit on the screws to seal it back up. Van's does not use the cork gaskets on their planes. Just enough to squeeze out upon tightening the screws. Not squeezed enough to get cover to tank contact. They say that if you need to remove the cover, the ole putty knife will 'POP' it off. Jim ____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m275YMXfHXPsBxyocOYnO6M0VzgrhIdNYeInezT2i1AOgtF/


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    Time: 09:56:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Tank Testing
    From: "Jerry Cochran" <jerry2dt@aol.com>
    I had to remove both fuel senders and reseal so am testing for integrity. The instructions for testing with a manometer are saying either 2 to 3 inches diff in water levels or 2 feet 3 inches, can't tell which. Before bothering Van's and displaying my ignorance anyone here know the answer for sure? I'd rather not blow my tanks apart, ya know... Thanks all, Jerry Oh, BTW... I would never, repeat NEVER use the supplied rubber gaskets again. I could not figure out why I'd never get a drip on the hangar floor but mysterious fuel streaks down the belly. My hangar mate pointed out that at speed the fuel vents can slightly pressurize the tanks. Fact or fiction? You decide. I took senders out, slathered proseal and replaced. Hopefully fixed. Edit/Delete Message Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196662#196662


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    Time: 10:29:24 AM PST US
    From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Northern California Airports - Arcata/Eureka area
    I had a good experience at ACV. Rental car was fast and easy. Nice terminal area. SS gas not unusually expensive. Probably all similar to EKA. Don't forget about the one big other factor, Weather. It is rare that you will get in and out of there without having to either file IFR or delay for VMC. I chose ACV primarily because it has an ILS. Turns out I arrived in VMC, but departed the next day into a 200' ceiling. -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net <http://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/> http://RotaryRoster.net <http://rotaryroster.net/> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Jim CArey <tiger10@centurytel.net> wrote: > HI > I also have daughter and grand kids in Arcata and you don't want to go > into ACV. That airport in not GA friendly. Where you want to go is Murray > KEKA. Fuel should be less $ there is maintance on the field, There was a > good coffee shop. Enterprise will come get you and you can drive to your > plane if I remember right. > Jim Carey > RV 8A building > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Della & Robert Kennett > *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2008 11:15 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV-List: Northern California Airports - Arcata/Eureka area > > We plan to fly down to Northern California in mid September to visit our > grandson and are looking for advice on the best place to land. They live in > the Arcata area and it looks like the options would either be Arcata or > Murray Field. We will probably need to rent a car, as well as have > tie-downs for a few days. We would appreciate any feedback and advice from > listers who are familiar with this area. Please reply off list to > rdkennett@shaw.ca. > > > Thanks > > Rob Kennett > > RV-6A C-GRBK > > > Do Not Archive > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > > __________ NOD32 3329 (20080805) Information __________ > > * > <http://RotaryRoster.net>


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    Time: 11:11:43 AM PST US
    From: steve <steve282s@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Lost tool found at Oshkosh
    If this "tool" has brown eyes, black hair, about 5'6" and weighs 120 please keep in plastic bag.- I will pick it up next year.- Trust me. --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> wrote: From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> Subject: RV-List: Lost tool found at Oshkosh Listers, - I just got back from Oshkosh, or I would have posted this sooner. On Saturd ay, while making my scooter rounds through the RV parking area, I came acro ss a lost item laying on the ground. It is a common sheet metal hand tool f rom one of the well known tool vendors, still in the plastic packaging. It is not a mega-$ item, but not a cheapie either. I would like to return i t to it's rightful owner. If anyone believes that they are the rightful own er, please contact me by email or private message. The rightful owner will obviously be able to describe exactly what the tool is and where it was los t (if you know.) If this is you, contact me and I'll make arrangements to g et it to you by mail. - Jeff Point RV-6 flying/ RV-8 building Milwaukee, WI do not archive - - =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 12:43:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Leaking QB Tanks
    From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
    Hi Brian, I guess there should be an item on our check list to put fuel in the tanks (100LL) for about a week prior to close up and check for leaks. That way we find any leaks and can stop the exposure of the Proseal to the dye on the outside of the tank. The tank only needs to have enough fuel to cover the root rib. Then leaks can be found before you put the wings on. Jim N15JN ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find a massage therapy school near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3l9deVZIrV8iEpet2FyycrmxVUDl3rErcmB92aT7o5tABXtB/


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    Time: 12:56:22 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    Listers, Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr.... What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am I making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone gonna look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too long?" :-( Bummed Out in Livermore Matt RV-8 #82880


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    Time: 01:30:49 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    Hi Bummed out in Livermore, > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:56 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... > > > Listers, > > Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the > mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with > the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the > Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along > the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it > appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use > the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning > the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side > and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr.... > > What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets > and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am I > making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone gonna > look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too long?" [Tim] I wouldn't probably even notice. Do you have the intended hinge pin in there? It looks like there is not an alignment of the loops between the two halves as If you had a skinny hinge pin in. Would be easy enough to change the hinge if you felt the need, but it wouldn't be noticeable to me. If this was the worse of your sins when it was all said and done, it would be a champion. Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 100 hours now


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    Time: 01:52:57 PM PST US
    From: "Alden D. Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.org>
    Subject: Re: Tank Testing
    Jerry The differential is 2 ft 3 inches which equates to approx one PSI. This is what I used for my RV-9A tanks and worked very well. Even with one PSI, you will see a small amount of skin deflection between the tank ribs while pressurized. Also be aware that the differential is very sensitive to temperature changes, even if you have no leaks. Dean Van Winkle dvanwinkle@royell.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Cochran" <jerry2dt@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Tank Testing > > I had to remove both fuel senders and reseal so am testing for integrity. The instructions for testing with a manometer are saying either 2 to 3 inches diff in water levels or 2 feet 3 inches, can't tell which. Before bothering Van's and displaying my ignorance anyone here know the answer for sure? I'd rather not blow my tanks apart, ya know... > > Thanks all, > > Jerry > > Oh, BTW... I would never, repeat NEVER use the supplied rubber gaskets again. > I could not figure out why I'd never get a drip on the hangar floor but mysterious fuel streaks down the belly. My hangar mate pointed out that at speed the fuel vents can slightly pressurize the tanks. Fact or fiction? You decide. I took senders out, slathered proseal and replaced. Hopefully fixed. > Edit/Delete Message > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196662#196662 > >


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    Time: 02:20:10 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
    Subject: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    Are you sure you've got the right size pin in there? The loops don't look like they align right. After that, just set it aside until the end of the project and then see how you feel about it. It's pretty minor and your F-it factor changes over time;-) Regards, Greg Young > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:56 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... > > > Listers, > > Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased > with the mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less > than pleased with the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The > Trim Tab hangs past the Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" > of an inch. It is 1/8" along the whole distance of the Trim > Tab. In looking at the cause, it appears that the skins are > all cut such that you are suppose to use the roundy part of > the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning the hinge > for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side and > would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr.... > > What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the > rivets and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to > that. But am I making too big a deal out of the whole thing? > Or is everyone gonna look at it forever and go, "Hey, how > come your trim take is too long?" :-( > > Bummed Out in Livermore > > Matt > RV-8 #82880


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    Time: 03:35:07 PM PST US
    From: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Re: Tank Testing
    You better have a quality regulator to ensure you only put one PSI in the tank. You can damage the tank with three PSI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alden D. Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Tank Testing > <dvanwinkle@royell.org> > > Jerry > > The differential is 2 ft 3 inches which equates to approx one PSI. This > is > what I used for my RV-9A tanks and worked very well. Even with one PSI, > you > will see a small amount of skin deflection between the tank ribs while > pressurized. Also be aware that the differential is very sensitive to > temperature changes, even if you have no leaks. > > Dean Van Winkle > dvanwinkle@royell.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Cochran" <jerry2dt@aol.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:52 AM > Subject: RV-List: Tank Testing > > >> >> I had to remove both fuel senders and reseal so am testing for integrity. > The instructions for testing with a manometer are saying either 2 to 3 > inches diff in water levels or 2 feet 3 inches, can't tell which. Before > bothering Van's and displaying my ignorance anyone here know the answer > for > sure? I'd rather not blow my tanks apart, ya know... >> >> Thanks all, >> >> Jerry >> >> Oh, BTW... I would never, repeat NEVER use the supplied rubber gaskets > again. >> I could not figure out why I'd never get a drip on the hangar floor but > mysterious fuel streaks down the belly. My hangar mate pointed out that at > speed the fuel vents can slightly pressurize the tanks. Fact or fiction? > You > decide. I took senders out, slathered proseal and replaced. Hopefully > fixed. >> Edit/Delete Message >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196662#196662 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 03:42:59 PM PST US
    From: "Michael D. Cencula" <matronics@cencula.com>
    Subject: Re: Tank Testing
    Jerry, Here's some info on testing the tanks...including the relationship between temperature and pressure: http://www.our7a.com/20070911.html Good luck! Mike Jerry Cochran wrote: > > I had to remove both fuel senders and reseal so am testing for integrity. The instructions for testing with a manometer are saying either 2 to 3 inches diff in water levels or 2 feet 3 inches, can't tell which. Before bothering Van's and displaying my ignorance anyone here know the answer for sure? I'd rather not blow my tanks apart, ya know... > > Thanks all, > > Jerry > > Oh, BTW... I would never, repeat NEVER use the supplied rubber gaskets again. > I could not figure out why I'd never get a drip on the hangar floor but mysterious fuel streaks down the belly. My hangar mate pointed out that at speed the fuel vents can slightly pressurize the tanks. Fact or fiction? You decide. I took senders out, slathered proseal and replaced. Hopefully fixed. > Edit/Delete Message > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196662#196662 > > >


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    Time: 04:35:59 PM PST US
    From: "John Fasching" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
    Subject: Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    That's so minor that you are the only one that will ever notice it. Functionally it makes no difference whatever. Keep it as is, continue building and if it really bugs you change it after you get the plane in the air....some things are not worth fretting about, and this seems to one of them.


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    Time: 05:19:55 PM PST US
    From: "Timothy E. Cone" <tcone1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Tank Testing
    STOP!!!! Do not hook your tank up to ANY pressure source...I don't care what kind of regulator you have. Fuel tanks and compressed gasses do not go together. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Tank Testing > > You better have a quality regulator to ensure you only put one PSI in the > tank. You can damage the tank with three PSI. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alden D. Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.org> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Tank Testing > > >> <dvanwinkle@royell.org> >> >> Jerry >> >> The differential is 2 ft 3 inches which equates to approx one PSI. This >> is >> what I used for my RV-9A tanks and worked very well. Even with one PSI, >> you >> will see a small amount of skin deflection between the tank ribs while >> pressurized. Also be aware that the differential is very sensitive to >> temperature changes, even if you have no leaks. >> >> Dean Van Winkle >> dvanwinkle@royell.org >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jerry Cochran" <jerry2dt@aol.com> >> To: <rv-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:52 AM >> Subject: RV-List: Tank Testing >> >> >>> >>> I had to remove both fuel senders and reseal so am testing for >>> integrity. >> The instructions for testing with a manometer are saying either 2 to 3 >> inches diff in water levels or 2 feet 3 inches, can't tell which. Before >> bothering Van's and displaying my ignorance anyone here know the answer >> for >> sure? I'd rather not blow my tanks apart, ya know... >>> >>> Thanks all, >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> Oh, BTW... I would never, repeat NEVER use the supplied rubber gaskets >> again. >>> I could not figure out why I'd never get a drip on the hangar floor but >> mysterious fuel streaks down the belly. My hangar mate pointed out that >> at >> speed the fuel vents can slightly pressurize the tanks. Fact or fiction? >> You >> decide. I took senders out, slathered proseal and replaced. Hopefully >> fixed. >>> Edit/Delete Message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=196662#196662 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 05:24:37 PM PST US
    From: <ronburnett@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    Matt, You did an excellent job. I've redone several things on my RV-6A QB and am still not flying after 8 years. As I tell my friends, I strain at knats and swallow camels. I would press on with the next step. Ron Burnett ---- Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: ============ Listers, Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr.... What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am I making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone gonna look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too long?" :-( Bummed Out in Livermore Matt RV-8 #82880


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    Time: 05:34:51 PM PST US
    From: Michael Ice <aurbo@ak.net>
    Subject: Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    Matt, Looks good. Don't dwell on the small stuff you will never get done. Mike Ice RV-9, DAR inspection this weekend, test flight soon after ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Subject: RV-List: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment... > > Listers, > > Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with > the > mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased > with > the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past > the > Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along > the whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it > appears that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to > use > the roundy part of the hinge and not the square cutout when > aligning > the hinge for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side > and would add up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr.... > > What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the > rivets > and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But > am I > making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone > gonna > look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too > long?" :-( > > Bummed Out in Livermore > > Matt > RV-8 #82880


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    Time: 05:51:57 PM PST US
    From: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Another Fuel Question
    I have a strong fuel odor in the cabin of my new RV8 which occurs only during climb attitude. Straight and level, descending and on the ground, there's no gas odor. I've gone over the entire fuel system (wing tanks, vent system, fuel selector valve, boost pump connections, gascolator, fuel pressure transducer, carb connections, mechanical pump connections, etc). I've found a few very small "weeping" connections which have been corrected, but the fuel smell is still there. I have also checked for blue streaks throughout the plane and don't see any. Any help with this annoying problem will sure be appreciated. Thanks, Walt Shipley


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    Time: 06:21:34 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...
    Hi Matt how you doing? BTW the trim is very seldom aligned perfectly when you are parked so most likely we would have never known except now you have told us. :-) Jerry Matt Dralle wrote: > > Listers, > > Well, the trim tab came out perfect and I'm really pleased with the > mating to the Elevator. That being said, I'm less than pleased with > the for/aft alignment of the Trim Tab. The Trim Tab hangs past the > Elevator trailing edge by about 1/8" of an inch. It is 1/8" along the > whole distance of the Trim Tab. In looking at the cause, it appears > that the skins are all cut such that you are suppose to use the roundy > part of the hinge and not the square cutout when aligning the hinge > for drilling. This would account for 1/16" on each side and would add > up to the 1/8" overhang I'm seeing. Grrrrrr.... > > What should I do, fellow builders? I could drill out all the rivets > and use a new hinge, and I'm certainly not opposed to that. But am I > making too big a deal out of the whole thing? Or is everyone gonna > look at it forever and go, "Hey, how come your trim take is too > long?" :-( > > Bummed Out in Livermore > > Matt > RV-8 #82880 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >


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    Time: 06:48:55 PM PST US
    From: Scott <acepilot@bloomer.net>
    Subject: Re: BooHoo - Trim Tab Alignment...


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    Time: 06:58:35 PM PST US
    From: Jerry2DT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tank Testing
    Thanx Dean, Using 27" overnite as we speak. Lookinf good so far... Jerry In a message dated 8/5/2008 1:55:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dvanwinkle@royell.org writes: Jerry The differential is 2 ft 3 inches which equates to approx one PSI. This is what I used for my RV-9A tanks and worked very well. Even with one PSI, you will see a small amount of skin deflection between the tank ribs while pressurized. Also be aware that the differential is very sensitive to temperature changes, even if you have no leaks. Dean Van Winkle dvanwinkle@royell.org **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )


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    Time: 08:00:43 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Leaking QB Tanks
    Kevin Horton wrote: > > On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:50, RICHARD MILLER wrote: > >> please tell us what happens, if vans does not stand behind thier q >> builds it might be a good time to have the local faa give them a chat. >> > > These are not type-certificated aircraft, so FAR 39 (Airworthiness > Directives) does not apply. If the local FAA wanted to talk to Van's > about this, which FAR subparagraph should they discuss? > > -- > Kevin Horton > RV-8 (FInal Assembly) > Ottawa, Canada > http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 Agreed on the legal points, but isn't the stuff Van supplies FAA approved for type-cert aircraft? I'm torn between being astounded and not surprised at all that the FAA would have nothing to say about an approved sealant that is dissolved by one of the components that it's certified to seal against. For each RV with a minor fuel leak expanding into a major one, there would be hundreds if not thousands of type cert a/c with the same issue. Charlie


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    Time: 08:14:10 PM PST US
    From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
    Subject: Another Fuel Question
    Hey Walt=2C I had a similar thing=2C found a loose and weeping screw in the fuel sender access plate. Good luck=2C Paul Rice RV8 Flying Siren> Date: Tue=2C 5 Aug 2008 20:50:50 -0400> From: rveighta@earthl ink.net> To: rv-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV-List: Another Fuel Question ave a strong fuel odor in the cabin of my new RV8 which occurs only during climb attitude. Straight and level=2C descending and on the ground=2C there 's no gas odor. I've gone over the entire fuel system (wing tanks=2C vent s ystem=2C fuel selector valve=2C boost pump connections=2C gascolator=2C fue l pressure transducer=2C carb connections=2C mechanical pump connections=2C etc). I've found a few very small "weeping" connections which have been co rrected=2C but the fuel smell is still there. I have also checked for blue streaks throughout the plane and don't see any. > > Any help with this anno ==> > >




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