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Mon 08/18/08


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 04:23 AM - Re: canopy latch (Bobby Hester)
     2. 07:04 AM - Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (smodking)
     3. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (David Cudney)
     5. 09:03 AM - New style VFR charts (James H Nelson)
     6. 02:51 PM - Flight Calculator in Excel (George Inman 204 287 8334)
     7. 02:51 PM - need lathe help (Louis Willig)
     8. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (jvanlaak@aol.com)
     9. 04:54 PM - Re: need lathe help (Dave Nellis)
    10. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS (Mike Divan)
    11. 05:35 PM - Re: need lathe help (Louis Willig)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:23:53 AM PST US
    From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net>
    Subject: Re: canopy latch
    http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/igswitches.php Scroll down to ACS DOOR AND BAGGAGE LOCK SETS P/N 11-01600 *$26.60* The door and baggage locks furnished with the ignition switches above are also available separately. Set of two locks (one door and one baggage lock) furnished with one key mated to both locks. The baggage lock may be used as second door lock if preferred. Your welcome :-) ---- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ davidbf@centurytel.net wrote: > > I have a sliding canopy RV6 with a canopy rail type locking latch. I have a > situation where I need to replace it due to a key mishap where I had to drill > it out to get back in to my locked canopy at a remote airport. Anyway I cannot > find a receipt to where I purchased it and was wondering if anybody remembers > seeing these locks made for the side skirt & slot in canopy rail for the 6, 7, > 9 canopies. The key says ACS on it and I thought it would be Aircraft Spruce > but I checked old catalogues that I have and haven't found it, even called them > they said no such thing. They did have a mini canopy latch which I ordered and > it is too small to fill the hole. It's the same idea though, a blade that > turns 90 deg.& slips into the slotted rail. Anybody remember seeing these > anywhere? Thanks, > > Dave Ford > RV6 flying > > >


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    Time: 07:04:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS
    From: "smodking" <tracy.petit@verizon.net>
    08-18-2008 As a new owner of the Anywhere Map ATC, I hope I can be of help with some of the questions and concerns. The HP iPAQ 310 thus far has been great. It is small, has 20-channel GPS and the screen resolution is great. Anywhere Map has issues. Control Vision has created an interface that allows the user to switch between aviation and the HP road mapping software. HP uses NavTeq, so if you have another GPS device that can't find an address, this unit won't either. TeleAtlas, which is used by TomTom also has issues and both mapping companies appear to use the same data as my house is a quarter of a mile further west than the GPS reports. Anywhere Map and the HP Road Map boot slowly after selecting one or the other. The HP road map interface is very responsive to the touch screen interface, moving the user about quickly. There is a wheel on the side that allows the user to zoom the map and Anywhere Map uses it too for the same thing. Anywhere Maps implementation is unresponsive, unlike HP's. When using the Anywhere Map you must turn once and wait to see what you got for a zoom (even stated on the web site) verses the HP road maps that instantly update the map as you turn the dial. Control Vision is aware of the issue, but the fix is late. Jay Humbard reported via the web site that fixes would be out late july and now it's mid-August. The Anywhere Map software is sluggish to the touch. The user pushes a button and often times you push it again thinking you missed it the first time. Here is a list of issues I found and reported to Control Vision: the small tabs that do not work reliably on the search for anything page and WX page. When searching I select NEARBY and turnoff ShowPVT and each time I return to search, I have to repeat these steps canceling a route (Flight Plan [FP] or Direct To) requires 5 clicks to cancel (FP-->File-->Clear-->Yes-->Done). Control Vision needs a cancel button on the first page to reduce clicks the sluggish performance of the touch screen performing the requested action (button depress) the wheel performance for zooming zooming in to 1.5 nm +/- you will see aberrations in the screen that shows horizontal lines randomly spaced (you must be navigating or in SIM mode for the issue to show). panning the map delivers a delay in the screen repaint (no WX used) the ATC has locked up and has required the reset button to reboot the device. I've even received a"Fatal Error" dialog box, but once the dialog box was dismissed, the unit seemed to function the same. SOmething crashed, but I don't know what. sliders on the Simulator Page that only want to work in one direction (up) and resist movement (down) when tapped the itty-bitty attitude and airspeed gauges (if they worked) would be extremely hard to read ESPECIALLY in an emergency searching for an airport brings up the keyboard, upon which you type in the airport identifier, but if you press on the keyboard verses the user is returned to the map and the search is aborted. You have to do it all over again and be sure to press so that you can press OK on the search page to return search values. You'd think would initiate the search and close the keyboard overlay. a hard to read screen in direct sunlight. It's very bright, but if you fly a low wing aircraft, you will likely have a hard time seeing the screen at times. poor customer service. I'll explain this in a minute. I really think Control Vision has a great idea, but they need to follow through with what they started. I get the sense they brought this to market before it was ready, likely to show it off at Oshkosh. The biggest issue is the responsiveness of the touch screen and the size of some of the controls. In order to work the tabs found on the WX page and the "search for anything" page, one needs a stylus. The various pages that the user visits aren't consistent. Many are gray (without color) and look very much like pages from Windows (the unit runs on Windows) while others are in full color and provide a nice looking interface. I have NOT used the XMWX, so I cannot report on connection issues, but if you browse the web site and read the known issues and tips for connecting, you'll see there seems to be issues to get the bluetooth devices to talk to each other if you don't boot things in the right sequence. It also appears if you turn off the ATC and then later after lunch get back in the cockpit and turn it back on, you'll NOT get WX to connect if you powered off the unit without closing the mapping software. Again, I cannot confirm this as I have not used XMWX on the ATC so far. Now about Customer Service: I called Alan Kirby on a Thursday and never heard back from him. Late on Friday I called again and did not reach him, though the operator said he was around. I ended up sending him an email stating the above bullet points. I get a response back from Jay Humbard, the CEO on Sunday afternoon. He is his email to me: Dear Mr. Petit, First, I am sorry that your calls went unanswered. We were short staffed on Thursday and Friday, it is vacation season and we are bound to have a few people out this time of year. I am also sorry that you do not seem to care for our product. I have looked through your list of comments and suggestions and can tell you that some of them are being added to the list, some are already on the list, and most seem too trivial to me to bother adding to the list. Since I am the chief cook, bottle washer, and the chairman of the ATC product committee, I have the final say in these matters. While I appreciate your considerable experience in the field, I also have well over 25 years experience in the field, as well as 9 years of experience with Anywhere Map software development specifically. We will just have to agree to disagree on most of your issues. I will say that the ATC is the best selling product we have ever offered, and our return rate is very low. I must say that I also think you hit the nail on the head in your self-assesment. By the way, the user waypoint named "JAY" that is in your "used" unit, is near my home. This waypoint is in every Anywhere Map system that has ever been shipped, over 30,000 of them, and nobody has ever regarded that as a flaw before you came along. If you wish to return the product, our standard terms will apply. You may review them on our web page if you are not aware of them. I think that you would be much happier paying an extra $1000 to purchase a Garmin with it's pathetic user interface. SincerelyJay Humbard CEO Control Vision Corp. What I found interesting is he'd rather NOT have me as a customer and didn't think most of my comments were worthy of his time. Instead of showing concern and asking me to bear with them while they get the kinks worked out, he tells me to return the unit and go buy a Garmin. The "self-assessment" remark is in regards to me saying "I bet you think I'm a pain-in-the-butt" and he agreed. Great PR on the behalf of the CEO! If you've ever read the return policy and I did BEFORE I purchased, you'll notice that they want to make money on the returns. For a point of sale that is over the internet and without the ability of the customer to hold it and fell it, their policy is very restrictive. It screams that they've had many returns of earlier products. Reviews seem to indicate this may be the case. The reference to the "USED" unit is due to the fact that my unit arrived without the protective screen cover and was smeared with figure prints. I asked if the unit was used and of course, they denied it was. Then I found this odd way point named "JAY" and again it seemed as if someone used this unit before I got it. Instead he tells me they ship the unit with this useless way point. No big deal, but just seems odd to me is all I'm saying. well, that should give anyone enough pause to stop and think before buying from Control Vision. Regards, Tracy Petit Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199249#199249


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    Time: 07:50:27 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS
    As a long time user of Anywhere Map on a couple of PDAs I can agree that some of the points you raise are common on the software. Yes, I just checked and Jay is in the standard software. Yes, their customer interaction sucks. I'm sorry the ATC hasn't proved to be as good a platform as they want you to believe. I am shopping for new PDA, and considered the ATC, but didn't want a unit that couldn't do standard PDA stuff. It is a shame, because that is a good screen size. All said and done, AWM software is still more useful to me than the Garmin stuff. I've already had a Garmin be dropped from support and updates because it wasn't designed for adequate database expansion. I never liked the toggle on the Garmin for entry of identifiers. Garmins give no path to upgrade hardware or software. To be fair, AWM hasn't updated their main software for PDAs for over 15 months and seems to be focused on the ATC and the electronic flight bags, ignoring their original customer base. smodking wrote: > > > The reference to the "USED" unit is due to the fact that my unit arrived without the protective screen cover and was smeared with figure prints. I asked if the unit was used and of course, they denied it was. Then I found this odd way point named "JAY" and again it seemed as if someone used this unit before I got it. Instead he tells me they ship the unit with this useless way point. No big deal, but just seems odd to me is all I'm saying. > > well, that should give anyone enough pause to stop and think before buying from Control Vision. > > Regards, > Tracy Petit > >


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    Time: 08:06:29 AM PST US
    From: David Cudney <yenduc@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS
    Tracy: I have always enjoyed having the latest toys. Several years ago I purchased all the stuff (pda, external Gps, antenna, cigarette lighter attachment etc.) and Anywhere Map. I tried to make it work for several months and concluded that for me in real cross country flying -- weather, bumps, bright sun -- that I was not comfortable with the unit. I moved it over to the passenger side and returned to my Garmin for navigation. On one long trip I noticed my wife was working and concentrating on the unit -- boy was I proud of her -- then I notice that she was playing solitaire on it. The pda is in a drawer (I'm back to a manual pda (small datebook)) and I thoroughly enjoy my Garmin (396 with XM). I have talked to several people who are happy with Anywhere Map -- probably a personal preference issue. Thanks for sharing your experience. dave On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:01 AM, smodking wrote: > > 08-18-2008 > > As a new owner of the Anywhere Map ATC, I hope I can be of help with > some of the questions and concerns. > > The HP iPAQ 310 thus far has been great. It is small, has 20-channel > GPS and the screen resolution is great. Anywhere Map has issues. > > Control Vision has created an interface that allows the user to > switch between aviation and the HP road mapping software. HP uses > NavTeq, so if you have another GPS device that can't find an > address, this unit won't either. TeleAtlas, which is used by TomTom > also has issues and both mapping companies appear to use the same > data as my house is a quarter of a mile further west than the GPS > reports. > > Anywhere Map and the HP Road Map boot slowly after selecting one or > the other. The HP road map interface is very responsive to the touch > screen interface, moving the user about quickly. There is a wheel on > the side that allows the user to zoom the map and Anywhere Map uses > it too for the same thing. Anywhere Maps implementation is > unresponsive, unlike HP's. When using the Anywhere Map you must turn > once and wait to see what you got for a zoom (even stated on the web > site) verses the HP road maps that instantly update the map as you > turn the dial. Control Vision is aware of the issue, but the fix is > late. Jay Humbard reported via the web site that fixes would be out > late july and now it's mid-August. > > > The Anywhere Map software is sluggish to the touch. The user pushes > a button and often times you push it again thinking you missed it > the first time. Here is a list of issues I found and reported to > Control Vision: > > the small tabs that do not work reliably on the search for > anything page and WX page. > > When searching I select NEARBY and turnoff ShowPVT and each > time I return to search, I have to repeat these steps > > canceling a route (Flight Plan [FP] or Direct To) requires 5 > clicks to cancel (FP-->File-->Clear-->Yes-->Done). Control Vision > needs a cancel button on the first page to reduce clicks > > the sluggish performance of the touch screen performing the > requested action (button depress) > > the wheel performance for zooming > > zooming in to 1.5 nm +/- you will see aberrations in the screen > that shows horizontal lines randomly spaced (you must be navigating > or in SIM mode for the issue to show). > > panning the map delivers a delay in the screen repaint (no WX used) > > the ATC has locked up and has required the reset button to > reboot the device. I've even received a"Fatal Error" dialog box, but > once the dialog box was dismissed, the unit seemed to function the > same. SOmething crashed, but I don't know what. > > sliders on the Simulator Page that only want to work in one > direction (up) and resist movement (down) when tapped > > the itty-bitty attitude and airspeed gauges (if they worked) would > be extremely hard to read ESPECIALLY in an emergency > > searching for an airport brings up the keyboard, upon which you > type in the airport identifier, but if you press on the keyboard > verses the user is returned to the map and the search is aborted. > You have to do it all over again and be sure to press so that you > can press OK on the search page to return search values. You'd > think would initiate the search and close the keyboard overlay. > > a hard to read screen in direct sunlight. It's very bright, but if > you fly a low wing aircraft, you will likely have a hard time seeing > the screen at times. > > poor customer service. I'll explain this in a minute. > > I really think Control Vision has a great idea, but they need to > follow through with what they started. I get the sense they brought > this to market before it was ready, likely to show it off at > Oshkosh. The biggest issue is the responsiveness of the touch screen > and the size of some of the controls. In order to work the tabs > found on the WX page and the "search for anything" page, one needs a > stylus. > > The various pages that the user visits aren't consistent. Many are > gray (without color) and look very much like pages from Windows (the > unit runs on Windows) while others are in full color and provide a > nice looking interface. > > I have NOT used the XMWX, so I cannot report on connection issues, > but if you browse the web site and read the known issues and tips > for connecting, you'll see there seems to be issues to get the > bluetooth devices to talk to each other if you don't boot things in > the right sequence. It also appears if you turn off the ATC and then > later after lunch get back in the cockpit and turn it back on, > you'll NOT get WX to connect if you powered off the unit without > closing the mapping software. Again, I cannot confirm this as I have > not used XMWX on the ATC so far. > > Now about Customer Service: I called Alan Kirby on a Thursday and > never heard back from him. Late on Friday I called again and did not > reach him, though the operator said he was around. I ended up > sending him an email stating the above bullet points. I get a > response back from Jay Humbard, the CEO on Sunday afternoon. He is > his email to me: > > Dear Mr. Petit, > > First, I am sorry that your calls went unanswered. We were short > staffed on Thursday and Friday, it is vacation season and we are > bound to have a few people out this time of year. > > I am also sorry that you do not seem to care for our product. I > have looked through your list of comments and suggestions and can > tell you that some of them are being added to the list, some are > already on the list, and most seem too trivial to me to bother > adding to the list. Since I am the chief cook, bottle washer, and > the chairman of the ATC product committee, I have the final say in > these matters. > > While I appreciate your considerable experience in the field, I also > have well over 25 years experience in the field, as well as 9 years > of experience with Anywhere Map software development specifically. > We will just have to agree to disagree on most of your issues. I > will say that the ATC is the best selling product we have ever > offered, and our return rate is very low. I must say that I also > think you hit the nail on the head in your self-assesment. > > By the way, the user waypoint named "JAY" that is in your "used" > unit, is near my home. This waypoint is in every Anywhere Map > system that has ever been shipped, over 30,000 of them, and nobody > has ever regarded that as a flaw before you came along. > > If you wish to return the product, our standard terms will apply. > You may review them on our web page if you are not aware of them. I > think that you would be much happier paying an extra $1000 to > purchase a Garmin with it's pathetic user interface. > > Sincerely Jay Humbard > CEO > Control Vision Corp. > > What I found interesting is he'd rather NOT have me as a customer > and didn't think most of my comments were worthy of his time. > Instead of showing concern and asking me to bear with them while > they get the kinks worked out, he tells me to return the unit and go > buy a Garmin. > > The "self-assessment" remark is in regards to me saying "I bet you > think I'm a pain-in-the-butt" and he agreed. Great PR on the behalf > of the CEO! > > If you've ever read the return policy and I did BEFORE I purchased, > you'll notice that they want to make money on the returns. For a > point of sale that is over the internet and without the ability of > the customer to hold it and fell it, their policy is very > restrictive. It screams that they've had many returns of earlier > products. Reviews seem to indicate this may be the case. > > The reference to the "USED" unit is due to the fact that my unit > arrived without the protective screen cover and was smeared with > figure prints. I asked if the unit was used and of course, they > denied it was. Then I found this odd way point named "JAY" and again > it seemed as if someone used this unit before I got it. Instead he > tells me they ship the unit with this useless way point. No big > deal, but just seems odd to me is all I'm saying. > > well, that should give anyone enough pause to stop and think before > buying from Control Vision. > > Regards, > Tracy Petit > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199249#199249 > >


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    Time: 09:03:35 AM PST US
    Subject: New style VFR charts
    From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
    Hi John, I just ordered the new VFR-GPS maps for the Florida / Georgia area. I was their first customer according to the girl I talked to at Jeppesen. It cost me $44.33 for the Fla., Ga., / Tampa and Atlanta detail maps. A bit expensive but I'll wait and see how they look and ease of use. Jim ____________________________________________________________ Ultimate Travel Deals - Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3msU643WSVURHusaUlvNwgDm5VhSZBxc1I5ZyKlE3eCWqyqX/


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    Time: 02:51:06 PM PST US
    From: George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
    Subject: Flight Calculator in Excel
    I made up a flight calculator in MS Excel go to http://www.mts.net/~ghinman/ download a copy and check it out. You can use it in a laptop or pocketPC. Suggestions on improvement welcome. -- George H. Inman ghinman@mts.net


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    Time: 02:51:06 PM PST US
    From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
    Subject: need lathe help
    Hi gang, I'm doing a little experiment. I just purchased a few hard rubber wheels from Surplus Center to see if they can be used as a tail wheel replacement. They cost $4.95 each, and have really nice sealed ball bearings (6203-RSV). They have a 2 1/8 " hub width, so mounting with a few spacer washers will work.The problem is that the bore of the ball bearing is 17 mm. Can someone on the list make me an aluminum or steel reduction bushing, 17mm OD, 3/8" ID, and 2 1/8" long? OR do any of you bearing gurus know of a replacement bearing ? This whole thing may be a bust, but that's why we build experimentals. Also, S/C has 3000 of these wheels in stock. Thanks for reading. Even more thanks if someone has a solution. Louis Louis I Willig 1640 Oakwood Dr. Penn Valley, PA 19072 610 668-4964 RV-4, N180PF 190HP IO-360, C/S prop


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    Time: 03:24:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS
    From: jvanlaak@aol.com
    I looked long and hard at the ATC online (have missed all of the shows this year) but could not convince myself it was going to work.=C2- The number of bugs described on the website was just too great for me.=C2- Add to tha t their crappy return policy and poor customer service (I have had an anywhe remap PDA based system for 6 years) and I just couldn't do it. I bought the Bendix/King AV8OR instead and it is not bad.=C2- Nowhere near as capable as a 496 but a small fraction of the cost.=C2- I went this way because I have an older XM weather receiver and hopefully I can get weather and all the rest for just $800, not $2400. FWIW, I cannot see buying any other Anywhere Map product because of the poor service.=C2- There are too many cmpeting companies that care. Jim Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: smodking <tracy.petit@verizon.net> Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:01 am Subject: RV-List: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS 08-18-2008 As a new owner of the Anywhere Map ATC, I hope I can be of help with some of the questions and concerns. The HP iPAQ 310 thus far has been great. It is small, has 20-channel GPS and the screen resolution is great. Anywhere Map has issues. Control Vision has created an interface that allows the user to switch betwe en aviation and the HP road mapping software. HP uses NavTeq, so if=2 0you have another GPS device that can't find an address, this unit won't either. TeleAtlas, which is used by TomTom also has issues and both mapping companie s appear to use the same data as my house is a quarter of a mile further west than the GPS reports. Anywhere Map and the HP Road Map boot slowly after selecting one or the othe r. The HP road map interface is very responsive to the touch screen interface, moving the user about quickly. There is a wheel on the side that allows the user to zoom the map and Anywhere Map uses it too for the same thing. Anywhere Ma ps implementation is unresponsive, unlike HP's. When using the Anywhere Map you must turn once and wait to see what you got for a zoom (even stated on the w eb site) verses the HP road maps that instantly update the map as you turn the dial. Control Vision is aware of the issue, but the fix is late. Jay Humbard reported via the web site that fixes would be out late july and now it's mid-August. The Anywhere Map software is sluggish to the touch. The user pushes a button and often times you push it again thinking you missed it the first time. Here is a list of issues I found and reported to Control Vision: =C3=82=C2=B7 the small tabs that do not work reliably on the =C3=A2=82 =AC=C5=93search for anything=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D page and WX page. =C3=82=C2=B7=C3=82=C2-When searching I select =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93NEARBY =C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D and turnoff =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93ShowPVT=C3=A2=82 =AC=C2=9D and each time I return to search, I have to repeat these steps =C3=82=C2=B7 canceling a route (Flight Plan [FP] or Direct To) requires 5 =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93clicks=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D to cancel=C3=82=C2- (FP-->File-->Clear-->Yes-->Done). Control Vision needs a =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93cancel button on the first page to reduce =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93clicks=C3=A2=82 =AC=C2=9D =C3=82=C2=B7 the sluggish performance of the touch screen performing the req uested action (button depress) =C3=82=C2=B7=C3=82=C2-the wheel performance for zooming =C3=82=C2=B7=C3=82=C2-zooming in to 1.5 nm +/- you will see aberrations in the screen that shows horizontal lines randomly spaced (you must be navigating or in SIM mode for the issue to show). =C3=82=C2=B7=C3=82=C2-panning the map delivers a delay in the screen repai nt (no WX used) =C3=82=C2=B7 the ATC has locked up and has required the =C3=A2=82=AC=C5 =93reset=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D button to reboot the device. I've even received a"Fatal Error" dialog box, but once the dialog bo x was dismissed, the unit seemed to function the same. SOmething crashed, but I don't know what. =C3=82=C2=B7 sliders on the Simulator Page that only want to work in one dir ection (up) and resist movement (down) when tapped =C3=82=C2=B7 the itty-bitty attitude and airspeed gauges (if they worked) wo uld be extremely hard to read ESPECIALLY in an emergency =C3=82=C2=B7 searching for an airport brings up the keyboard, upon which you type in the airport identifier, but if you press on the keyboard verses the20user is returned to the map and the search is aborted. You have to do it all over ag ain and be sure to press so that you can press OK on the search page to return search values. You'd think would initiate the search and close the keyboard overlay. =C3=82=C2=B7 a hard to read screen in direct sunlight. It's very bright, but if you fly a low wing aircraft, you will likely have a hard time seeing the screen at tim es. =C3=82=C2=B7 poor customer service. I'll explain this in a minute. I really think Control Vision has a great idea, but they need to follow thro ugh with what they started. I get the sense they brought this to market before i t was ready, likely to show it off at Oshkosh. The biggest issue is the responsiveness of the touch screen and the size of some of the controls. In order to work the tabs found on the WX page and the "search for anything" pa ge, one needs a stylus. The various pages that the user visits aren't consistent. Many are gray (wit hout color) and look very much like pages from Windows (the unit runs on Windows) while others are in full color and provide a nice looking interface. I have NOT used the XMWX, so I cannot report on connection issues, but if yo u browse the web site and read the known issues and tips for connecting, you'l l see there seems to be issues to get the bluetooth devices to talk to each ot her if you don't boot things in the right sequence. It also appears if you turn off t he ATC and then later after lunch get back in the cockpit and turn it back o n, you'll NOT get WX to connect if you powered off the unit without closing the mapping software. Again, I cannot confirm this as I have not used XMWX on th e ATC so far. Now about Customer Service: I called Alan Kirby on a Thursday and never hear d back from him. Late on Friday I called again and did not reach him, though t he operator said he was around. I ended up sending him an email stating the abo ve bullet points. I get a response back from Jay Humbard, the CEO on Sunday afternoon. He is his email to me: Dear Mr. Petit,=C3=82=C2- First, I am sorry that your calls went unanswered.=C3=82=C2- We were short staffed on Thursday and Friday, it is vacation season and we are bound to have a few pe ople out this time of year. I am also sorry that you do not seem to care for our product.=C3=82=C2- I have looked through your list of comments and suggestions and can tell you that some of them are being added to the list, some are already on the list, and most seem too trivial to me to bother adding to the list. Since I am the chief cook, bottl e washer, and the chairman of the ATC product committee, I have the final say in these matters.=C3=82=C2- While I appreciate your considerable experience in the field, I also have we ll over 25 years experience in the field, as well as 9 years of experience with Anywhere Map software development specifically.=C3=82=C 2 We will just have to agree to disagree on most of your issues.=C3=82=C2- I will say that the ATC is the best selling product we have ever offered, and our return rate is very low.=C3=82=C2- I must say that I also think you hit the nail on the head in your self-assesment.=C3=82=C2 - By the way, the user waypoint named "JAY" that is in your "used" unit, is ne ar my home.=C3=82=C2-=C3=82=C2- This waypoint is in every Anywhere Map syst em that has ever been shipped, over 30,000 of them, and nobody has ever regarded that as a flaw be fore you came along. If you wish to return the product, our standard terms will apply.=C3=82=C2 - You may review them on our web page if you are not aware of them.=C3=82=C2- I thin k that you would be much happier paying an extra $1000 to purchase a Garmin with it's pathetic user interface.=C3=82=C2- Sincerely=C3=82=C2-Jay Humbard CEO Control Vision Corp. What I found interesting is he'd rather NOT have me as a customer and didn't think most of my comments were worthy of his time. Instead of showing concer n and asking me to bear with them while they get the kinks worked out, he tell s me to return the unit and go buy a Garmin. The "self-assessment" remark is in regards to me saying "I bet you think I'm a pain-in-the-butt" and he agreed. Great PR on the behalf of the CEO! If you've ever read the return policy and I did BEFORE I purchased, you'll notice that they want to make money on the returns. For=2 0a point of sale that is over the internet and without the ability of the customer to hold it and fel l it, their policy is very restrictive. It screams that they've had many retur ns of earlier products. Reviews seem to indicate this may be the case. The reference to the "USED" unit is due to the fact that my unit arrived wit hout the protective screen cover and was smeared with figure prints. I asked if t he unit was used and of course, they denied it was. Then I found this odd way p oint named "JAY" and again it seemed as if someone used this unit before I got it . Instead he tells me they ship the unit with this useless way point. No big d eal, but just seems odd to me is all I'm saying. well, that should give anyone enough pause to stop and think before buying f rom Control Vision. Regards, Tracy Petit Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199249#199249 =========================3 D=========


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    Time: 04:54:50 PM PST US
    From: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: need lathe help
    I have some stock here that I can make that for you, no problem. Send me your mailing address and I will drop it in the mail for you. Email to davidnellis691@comcast.net Dave Nellis --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> wrote: > From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> > Subject: RV-List: need lathe help > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 5:42 PM > <larywil@comcast.net> > > > Hi gang, > > I'm doing a little experiment. I just purchased a few > hard rubber > wheels from Surplus Center to see if they can be used as a > tail wheel > replacement. They cost $4.95 each, and have really nice > sealed ball > bearings (6203-RSV). They have a 2 1/8 " hub width, so > mounting with > a few spacer washers will work.The problem is that the bore > of the > ball bearing is 17 mm. Can someone on the list make me an > aluminum or > steel reduction bushing, 17mm OD, 3/8" ID, and 2 > 1/8" long? OR do any > of you bearing gurus know of a replacement bearing ? This > whole > thing may be a bust, but that's why we build > experimentals. Also, S/C > has 3000 of these wheels in stock. Thanks for reading. Even > more > thanks if someone has a solution. > > Louis > > > > Louis I Willig > 1640 Oakwood Dr. > Penn Valley, PA 19072 > 610 668-4964 > RV-4, N180PF > 190HP IO-360, C/S prop > > >


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    Time: 04:56:35 PM PST US
    From: Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) GPS
    I wish I had seen this BEFORE I purchased my AWP ATC. I have not flown wit h it but I have noticed it has issues. Still messing with it might take it up in a day or two. The customer service issue people have make me want to return the unit today.=0A=0A Mike Divan=0AN64GH - RV6,flying :)=0ASLOW 7 Bu ilder :(=0AEAA - 577486=0AFREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS!=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: smodking <tracy.p etit@verizon.net>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, August 18, 20 08 7:01:06 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: Re: Anywhere Map Travel Companion (ATC) G =0A=0A08-18-2008=0A=0AAs a new owner of the Anywhere Map ATC, I hope I can be of help with some of the questions and concerns.=0A=0AThe HP iPAQ 310 th us far has been great. It is small, has 20-channel GPS and the screen resol ution is great. Anywhere Map has issues.=0A=0AControl Vision has created an interface that allows the user to switch between aviation and the HP road mapping software. HP uses NavTeq, so if you have another GPS device that ca n't find an address, this unit won't either. TeleAtlas, which is used by To mTom also has issues and both mapping companies appear to use the same data as my house is a quarter of a mile further west than the GPS reports.=0A =0AAnywhere Map and the HP Road Map boot slowly after selecting one or the other. The HP road map interface is very responsive to the touch screen int erface, moving the user about quickly. There is a wheel on the side that al lows the user to zoom the map and Anywhere Map uses it too for the same thi ng. Anywhere Maps implementation is unresponsive, unlike HP's. When using t he Anywhere Map you must turn once and wait to see what you got for a zoom (even stated on the web site) verses the HP road maps that instantly update the map as you turn the dial. Control Vision is aware of the issue, but th e fix is late. Jay Humbard reported via the web site that fixes would be ou t late july and now it's mid-August.=0A=0A=0AThe Anywhere Map software is s luggish to the touch. The user pushes a button and often times you push it again thinking you missed it the first time. Here is a list of issues I fou nd and reported to Control Vision:=0A=0A=B7 the small tabs that do not work reliably on the =93search for anything=94 page and WX page.=0A=0A=B7 When searching I select =93NEARBY=94 and turnoff =93ShowPVT=94 and each time I r eturn to search, I have to repeat these steps =0A=0A=B7 canceling a route ( Flight Plan [FP] or Direct To) requires 5 =93clicks=94 to cancel (FP-->Fil e-->Clear-->Yes-->Done). Control Vision needs a =93cancel button on the fir st page to reduce =93clicks=94=0A=0A=B7 the sluggish performance of the tou ch screen performing the requested action (button depress)=0A=0A=B7 the whe el performance for zooming=0A=0A=B7 zooming in to 1.5 nm +/- you will see a berrations in the screen that shows horizontal lines randomly spaced (you m ust be navigating or in SIM mode for the issue to show).=0A=0A=B7 panning t he map delivers a delay in the screen repaint (no WX used)=0A=0A=B7 the ATC has locked up and has required the =93reset=94 button to reboot the device . I've even received a"Fatal Error" dialog box, but once the dialog box was dismissed, the unit seemed to function the same. SOmething crashed, but I don't know what.=0A=0A=B7 sliders on the Simulator Page that only want to w ork in one direction (up) and resist movement (down) when tapped =0A=0A=B7 the itty-bitty attitude and airspeed gauges (if they worked) would be extre mely hard to read ESPECIALLY in an emergency=0A=0A=B7 searching for an airp ort brings up the keyboard, upon which you type in the airport identifier, but if you press on the keyboard verses the user is returned to the map a nd the search is aborted. You have to do it all over again and be sure to p ress so that you can press OK on the search page to return search values. You'd think would initiate the search and close the keyboard overlay.=0A =0A=B7 a hard to read screen in direct sunlight. It's very bright, but if y ou fly a low wing aircraft, you will likely have a hard time seeing the scr een at times.=0A=0A=B7 poor customer service. I'll explain this in a minute .=0A=0AI really think Control Vision has a great idea, but they need to fol low through with what they started. I get the sense they brought this to ma rket before it was ready, likely to show it off at Oshkosh. The biggest iss ue is the responsiveness of the touch screen and the size of some of the co ntrols. In order to work the tabs found on the WX page and the "search for anything" page, one needs a stylus.=0A=0AThe various pages that the user vi sits aren't consistent. Many are gray (without color) and look very much li ke pages from Windows (the unit runs on Windows) while others are in full c olor and provide a nice looking interface. =0A=0AI have NOT used the XMWX, so I cannot report on connection issues, but if you browse the web site and read the known issues and tips for connecting, you'll see there seems to b e issues to get the bluetooth devices to talk to each other if you don't bo ot things in the right sequence. It also appears if you turn off the ATC an d then later after lunch get back in the cockpit and turn it back on, you'l l NOT get WX to connect if you powered off the unit without closing the map ping software. Again, I cannot confirm this as I have not used XMWX on the ATC so far.=0A=0ANow about Customer Service: I called Alan Kirby on a Thurs day and never heard back from him. Late on Friday I called again and did no t reach him, though the operator said he was around. I ended up sending him an email stating the above bullet points. I get a response back from Jay H umbard, the CEO on Sunday afternoon. He is his email to me:=0A=0ADear Mr. P etit, =0A=0AFirst, I am sorry that your calls went unanswered. We were sho rt staffed on Thursday and Friday, it is vacation season and we are bound t o have a few people out this time of year.=0A=0AI am also sorry that you do not seem to care for our product. I have looked through your list of comm ents and suggestions and can tell you that some of them are being added to the list, some are already on the list, and most seem too trivial to me to bother adding to the list. Since I am the chief cook, bottle washer, and th e chairman of the ATC product committee, I have the final say in these matt ers. =0A=0AWhile I appreciate your considerable experience in the field, I also have well over 25 years experience in the field, as well as 9 years of experience with Anywhere Map software development specifically. We will j ust have to agree to disagree on most of your issues. I will say that the ATC is the best selling product we have ever offered, and our return rate i s very low. I must say that I also think you hit the nail on the head in y our self-assesment. =0A=0ABy the way, the user waypoint named "JAY" that is in your "used" unit, is near my home. This waypoint is in every Anywhere Map system that has ever been shipped, over 30,000 of them, and nobody has ever regarded that as a flaw before you came along.=0A=0AIf you wish to re turn the product, our standard terms will apply. You may review them on ou r web page if you are not aware of them. I think that you would be much ha ppier paying an extra $1000 to purchase a Garmin with it's pathetic user in terface. =0A=0ASincerely Jay Humbard=0ACEO=0AControl Vision Corp.=0A=0AWhat I found interesting is he'd rather NOT have me as a customer and didn't th ink most of my comments were worthy of his time. Instead of showing concern and asking me to bear with them while they get the kinks worked out, he te lls me to return the unit and go buy a Garmin.=0A=0AThe "self-assessment" r emark is in regards to me saying "I bet you think I'm a pain-in-the-butt" a nd he agreed. Great PR on the behalf of the CEO!=0A=0AIf you've ever read t he return policy and I did BEFORE I purchased, you'll notice that they want to make money on the returns. For a point of sale that is over the interne t and without the ability of the customer to hold it and fell it, their pol icy is very restrictive. It screams that they've had many returns of earlie r products. Reviews seem to indicate this may be the case.=0A=0AThe referen ce to the "USED" unit is due to the fact that my unit arrived without the p rotective screen cover and was smeared with figure prints. I asked if the u nit was used and of course, they denied it was. Then I found this odd way p oint named "JAY" and again it seemed as if someone used this unit before I got it. Instead he tells me they ship the unit with this useless way point. No big deal, but just seems odd to me is all I'm saying.=0A=0Awell, that s hould give anyone enough pause to stop and think before buying from Control Vision.=0A=0ARegards,=0ATracy Petit=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online h ere:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199249#199249=0A=0A ==========0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 05:35:46 PM PST US
    From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: need lathe help
    At 07:52 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: > > >I have some stock here that I can make that for you, no >problem. Send me your mailing address and I will drop it in the >mail for you. Email to > >davidnellis691@comcast.net Dave, You are a jewel without a price!! My address is: 1640 Oakwood Drive W-105 Penn Valley, PA 19072 If this works well, I'll send you the other wheel for your own use. Thanks you. Louis




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