RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/26/08


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:54 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/25/08 (Randy)
     2. 06:40 AM - Re: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     3. 07:09 AM - Re: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly (Sam Buchanan)
     4. 06:18 PM - Flight time with Mike Seager at EAA-486 FZY Fulton, NY (Jim Hurd)
     5. 08:20 PM - "ice-box" avionics cooling fan (tom sargent)
     6. 08:41 PM - nylo-seal and "inserts" (tom sargent)
     7. 08:42 PM - Re: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan (Bob Perkinson)
     8. 09:14 PM - Slick Mag Health Check-up (Fiveonepw@AOL.COM)
     9. 10:21 PM - Re: nylo-seal and "inserts" (Don Vs)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:54:06 AM PST US
    From: "Randy" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/25/08
    Congratulations Fred, you are a veteran RV builder! What prop are you using and where are you located? Randy Utsey RV-7 / N55CU / 130 hrs. Charlotte, NC djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV-List Digest Server" <rv-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:58 AM Subject: RV-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/25/08 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-08-25&Archive=RV > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-08-25&Archive=RV > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 08/25/08: 13 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:36 AM - N924RV first flight (Fred Stucklen) > 2. 06:15 AM - Re: N924RV first flight (Chuck Jensen) > 3. 07:55 AM - Re: N924RV first flight (Mike Divan) > 4. 08:18 AM - Re: N924RV first flight (Bill Boyd) > 5. 08:47 AM - Re: N924RV first flight (Ron Lee) > 6. 10:30 AM - Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > (sarg314@comcast.net) > 7. 11:39 AM - Re: N924RV first flight (Charles Rowbotham) > 8. 11:52 AM - Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning" (Garey > Wittich) > 9. 07:01 PM - Re: Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning" > (Matt Dralle) > 10. 08:08 PM - Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly (tom > sargent) > 11. 08:40 PM - Re: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly (Don > Vs) > 12. 09:10 PM - Re: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly (tom > sargent) > 13. 09:26 PM - Re: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly (Don > Vs) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:36:21 AM PST US > From: "Fred Stucklen" <wstucklen1@cox.net> > Subject: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > Hi all, > > N924RV, my new RV-7A, took to the air yesterday for the first time. > After flying in circles around the airport for an hour, no issues were > found. The plane trimmed out fine and flies straight and level with no > pilot input! > After flying more than 2900 hours in RV-6A's, this plane felt great. > Much better visibility over the nose. The Mattituck TMX IO-360 180 HP > injected engine runs great! Empty weight came out at 1185 lbs with no > weight & balance issues through the full gross of 1950 lbs. There's a > few calibration issue with fuel flow, and I need to learn how to use the > GNS-480 and the GRT HS EFIS boxes (3), but otherwise, no real issues. > The 40 hour test period should go fast! > > Fred Stucklen > N924RV RV-7A Flying! > N926RV RV-6A Sold at 876 Hrs > N925RV RV-6A sold at 2008 Hrs > N923RV (Reserved - Maybe an RV-12 or an RV-10!) > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:15:02 AM PST US > Subject: RE: RV-List: N924RV first flight > From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> > > Congratulations...and you will love the GNS-480. Superb box. > > Chuck Jensen > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Stucklen > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:35 AM > Subject: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > > Hi all, > > N924RV, my new RV-7A, took to the air yesterday for the first time. > After flying in circles around the airport for an hour, no issues were > found. The plane trimmed out fine and flies straight and level with no > pilot input! > After flying more than 2900 hours in RV-6A's, this plane felt great. > Much better visibility over the nose. The Mattituck TMX IO-360 180 HP > injected engine runs great! Empty weight came out at 1185 lbs with no > weight & balance issues through the full gross of 1950 lbs. There's a > few calibration issue with fuel flow, and I need to learn how to use the > GNS-480 and the GRT HS EFIS boxes (3), but otherwise, no real issues. > The 40 hour test period should go fast! > > Fred Stucklen > N924RV RV-7A Flying! > N926RV RV-6A Sold at 876 Hrs > N925RV RV-6A sold at 2008 Hrs > N923RV (Reserved - Maybe an RV-12 or an RV-10!) > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:55:56 AM PST US > From: Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > Way COOL congratulations! > > Mike Divan > N64GH - RV6,flying :) > SLOW 7 Builder :( > EAA - 577486 > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Fred Stucklen <wstucklen1@cox.net> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:35:11 AM > Subject: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > Message > Hi > all, > > N924RV, my > new RV-7A, took to the air yesterday for the first time. After flying in > circles > > around the airport for an hour, no issues were found. The plane trimmed > out fine > > and flies straight and level with no pilot input! > After > flying more than 2900 hours in RV-6A's, this plane felt great. Much better > visibility over the nose. The Mattituck TMX IO-360 180 HP injected engine > runs > great! Empty weight came out at 1185 > lbs with no weight & balance issues through the full gross of 1950 lbs. > There's a few calibration issue with fuel flow, and I need to learn how to > use > > the GNS-480 and the GRT HS EFIS boxes (3), but otherwise, no real > issues. > The 40 > hour test period should go fast! > > Fred > Stucklen > N924RV RV-7A Flying! > N926RV RV-6A Sold at 876 Hrs > N925RV RV-6A sold at 2008 Hrs > N923RV (Reserved - Maybe an RV-12 or an > RV-10!) > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:18:44 AM PST US > From: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > Congrats, Fred. I'm on the sidelines considering a 7A to replace my 10 > year > old 6A myself... your comment on the better fwd visibility is fuel for > the > fire, to be sure. With all the other irons in the fire, even a matched > hole > kit would likely take me longer than the 4 years I worked on the old-style > 6A, but I sure am thinking about it. > > Enjoy the fruits of your labor! > > -Bill B. > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Way COOL congratulations! >> >> Mike Divan >> N64GH - RV6,flying :) >> SLOW 7 Builder :( >> EAA - 577486 >> FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Fred Stucklen <wstucklen1@cox.net> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:35:11 AM >> Subject: RV-List: N924RV first flight >> >> Hi all, >> >> N924RV, my new RV-7A, took to the air yesterday for the first time. >> After >> flying in circles around the airport for an hour, no issues were found. >> The >> plane trimmed out fine and flies straight and level with no pilot input! >> After flying more than 2900 hours in RV-6A's, this plane felt great. >> Much >> better visibility over the nose. The Mattituck TMX IO-360 180 HP injected >> engine runs great! Empty weight came out at 1185 lbs with no weight & >> balance issues through the full gross of 1950 lbs. There's a few >> calibration >> issue with fuel flow, and I need to learn how to use the GNS-480 and the >> GRT >> HS EFIS boxes (3), but otherwise, no real issues. >> The 40 hour test period should go fast! >> >> *Fred Stucklen* >> *N924RV RV-7A Flying!* >> N926RV RV-6A Sold at 876 Hrs >> N925RV RV-6A sold at 2008 Hrs >> N923RV (Reserved - Maybe an RV-12 or an RV-10!) >> >> * >> >> * >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:47:48 AM PST US > From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net> > Subject: Re: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > MessageHow is visibility much better than a 6A? > > Ron Lee > After flying more than 2900 hours in RV-6A's, this plane felt great. > Much better visibility over the nose. > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:30:19 AM PST US > From: sarg314@comcast.net > Subject: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:39:26 AM PST US > From: Charles Rowbotham <crowbotham@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: RV-List: N924RV first flight > > > Fred=2C > > CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!!! > > > For the Third Time ! > > > Chuck & Dave Rowbotham > RV-8A (sold) > > > From: wstucklen1@cox.netTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: N924RV > f > irst flightDate: Mon=2C 25 Aug 2008 08:35:11 -0400 > > Hi all=2C > > N924RV=2C my new RV-7A=2C took to the air yesterday for the first time. > The 40 hour test period should go fast! > > Fred Stucklen > N924RV RV-7A Flying! > N926RV RV-6A Sold at 876 Hrs > N925RV RV-6A sold at 2008 Hrs > N923RV (Reserved - Maybe an RV-12 or an RV-10!) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. > http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:52:43 AM PST US > From: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: RV-List: Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning" > > > Matt: > > Thank you for your Matronic Web Site - GREAT help !!! > > I have no experience with your "bowing" problem. > > Do have a question for you about "Oil Canning" of the Rudder Skin and did > you have > the same problem ?? > > It occurs ONLY on the "right side" of the Rudder Skin: If I press down on > the > Rudder Skin between Stiffener 1 and 2, it stays DOWN and between Stiffener > 2 and > 3 the Skin pops UP and stays popped UP. Pressing down between Stiffener 2 > and 3 (Skin stays down) and the Skin between Stiffener 1 and 2 pops up and > stays > that way. Acts like the Skin is stretched. Was VERY carefull with the > Skin > so as not to damage it during construction. > > Not sure if this will effect flight characteristics or is a common problem > with > other builders or can be a future fatigue problem. Anybody have any > experience > or ideas or knowledge about this ????? > > > Thanks, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:01:10 PM PST US > From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning" > > > At 11:52 AM 8/25/2008 Monday, Garey Wittich wrote: >> >>Matt: >> >>Thank you for your Matronic Web Site - GREAT help !!! >> >>I have no experience with your "bowing" problem. >> >>Do have a question for you about "Oil Canning" of the Rudder Skin and did >>you > have the same problem ?? >> >>It occurs ONLY on the "right side" of the Rudder Skin: If I press down on >>the > Rudder Skin between Stiffener 1 and 2, it stays DOWN and between Stiffener > 2 > and 3 the Skin pops UP and stays popped UP. Pressing down between > Stiffener 2 > and 3 (Skin stays down) and the Skin between Stiffener 1 and 2 pops up and > stays > that way. Acts like the Skin is stretched. Was VERY carefull with the > Skin > so as not to damage it during construction. >> >>Not sure if this will effect flight characteristics or is a common problem >>with > other builders or can be a future fatigue problem. Anybody have any > experience > or ideas or knowledge about this ????? >> >> >>Thanks, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA > > My rudder doesn't seem to have any of the oil-canning you're talking > about. Seems > straight and flat. > > Matt > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:08:45 PM PST US > From: tom sargent <sarg314@comcast.net> > Subject: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > I'll try this again since my text got clobbered last time: > > I have a 1/4" O.D. aluminum tube coming out of my wing from the pitot > tube which has to some how get mated to a 1/4" poly tube that goes to > the air speed indicator. What is a good way to do this? Van's says just > butt the two tubes together with a length of plastic tube with a 1/4" > I.D. slipped over it. That doesn't sound very reliable. > > Will those nylo-seal fittings grip the aluminum tube well enough to be > useful? > > -- > Tom S., RV-6A > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:40:09 PM PST US > From: "Don Vs" <dsvs@ca.rr.com> > Subject: RE: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > Tom, > The simple way is to do as Van's says to do. Dan C did it that way. An > other slternative is to flair the al tube ahd use an AN fitting that has a > flair on one end and pipe threads on the other. Mate this to a nylo seal > female pipe fitting and you are all set. Don VS > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom sargent > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:07 PM > Subject: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > I'll try this again since my text got clobbered last time: > > I have a 1/4" O.D. aluminum tube coming out of my wing from the pitot > tube which has to some how get mated to a 1/4" poly tube that goes to > the air speed indicator. What is a good way to do this? Van's says just > butt the two tubes together with a length of plastic tube with a 1/4" > I.D. slipped over it. That doesn't sound very reliable. > > Will those nylo-seal fittings grip the aluminum tube well enough to be > useful? > > -- > Tom S., RV-6A > > > ________________________________ Message 12 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:10:56 PM PST US > From: tom sargent <sarg314@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > Don: > As luck would have it I found some 1/4" I.D. tygon tube on my > random-parts shelf and tried it. It grips the aluminum aggresively, so > yes, it looks like it will work better than I expected. > > Along these same lines, I just ordered some nylo-seal fittings and 1/4" > tube to hook up my airspeed, altimeter and VSI. Is that what folks > usually use for this purpose? > > > Don Vs wrote: >> >> >> Tom, >> The simple way is to do as Van's says to do. Dan C did it that way. An >> other slternative is to flair the al tube ahd use an AN fitting that has >> a >> flair on one end and pipe threads on the other. Mate this to a nylo seal >> female pipe fitting and you are all set. Don VS >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom sargent >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:07 PM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly >> >> >> >> I'll try this again since my text got clobbered last time: >> >> I have a 1/4" O.D. aluminum tube coming out of my wing from the pitot >> tube which has to some how get mated to a 1/4" poly tube that goes to >> the air speed indicator. What is a good way to do this? Van's says just >> butt the two tubes together with a length of plastic tube with a 1/4" >> I.D. slipped over it. That doesn't sound very reliable. >> >> Will those nylo-seal fittings grip the aluminum tube well enough to be >> useful? >> > > > ________________________________ Message 13 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:26:21 PM PST US > From: "Don Vs" <dsvs@ca.rr.com> > Subject: RE: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > Yes but you always need to use the inserts to get a good seal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom sargent > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly > > > Don: > As luck would have it I found some 1/4" I.D. tygon tube on my > random-parts shelf and tried it. It grips the aluminum aggresively, so > yes, it looks like it will work better than I expected. > > Along these same lines, I just ordered some nylo-seal fittings and 1/4" > tube to hook up my airspeed, altimeter and VSI. Is that what folks > usually use for this purpose? > > > Don Vs wrote: >> >> >> Tom, >> The simple way is to do as Van's says to do. Dan C did it that way. An >> other slternative is to flair the al tube ahd use an AN fitting that has >> a >> flair on one end and pipe threads on the other. Mate this to a nylo seal >> female pipe fitting and you are all set. Don VS >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom sargent >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:07 PM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly >> >> >> >> I'll try this again since my text got clobbered last time: >> >> I have a 1/4" O.D. aluminum tube coming out of my wing from the pitot >> tube which has to some how get mated to a 1/4" poly tube that goes to >> the air speed indicator. What is a good way to do this? Van's says just >> butt the two tubes together with a length of plastic tube with a 1/4" >> I.D. slipped over it. That doesn't sound very reliable. >> >> Will those nylo-seal fittings grip the aluminum tube well enough to be >> useful? >> > > >


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    Time: 06:40:51 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly
    You could also use the quick connects from the likes of Stein or SafeAir that are basically commercial air line versions of the plumbing quick connects from your local Lowes Depot. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Fuselage -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tom sargent Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: RV-List: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly I'll try this again since my text got clobbered last time: I have a 1/4" O.D. aluminum tube coming out of my wing from the pitot tube which has to some how get mated to a 1/4" poly tube that goes to the air speed indicator. What is a good way to do this? Van's says just butt the two tubes together with a length of plastic tube with a 1/4" I.D. slipped over it. That doesn't sound very reliable. Will those nylo-seal fittings grip the aluminum tube well enough to be useful? -- Tom S., RV-6A


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    Time: 07:09:50 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Mate aluminum ram air pressure tube to poly
    tom sargent wrote: > > I'll try this again since my text got clobbered last time: > > I have a 1/4" O.D. aluminum tube coming out of my wing from the pitot > tube which has to some how get mated to a 1/4" poly tube that goes to > the air speed indicator. What is a good way to do this? Van's says just > butt the two tubes together with a length of plastic tube with a 1/4" > I.D. slipped over it. That doesn't sound very reliable. Tom, Vans knows of what they speak. :-) Connecting the tubing with a short length of plastic tubing works very well and has performed perfectly on my RV-6 for the past nine years. Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 06:18:10 PM PST US
    From: Jim Hurd <jhurd1@twcny.rr.com>
    Subject: Flight time with Mike Seager at EAA-486 FZY Fulton, NY
    Hi All, I have 1 slot left on Friday and 3 left on Sunday for flight time with Mike Seager. He will be here with the RV-7 taildragger. If you wish to take advantage of this opportunity then please contact me ASAP. September 12-14, 2008 at Oswego County Airport (FZY), Fulton, NY Please contact me at 315-761-1702 (leave a message if I cannot answer) or at jhurd1@twcny.rr.com to schedule your time with Mike. I need to hear from you by Aug 28th if you wish to schedule time with Mike so that I can let him know if there is enough work here to make it worth his trip to central New York. Thanks, Jim Hurd http://eaachapter486.com/


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    Time: 08:20:31 PM PST US
    From: tom sargent <sarg314@comcast.net>
    Subject: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan
    I bought an "Ice-Box" avionics cooling fan from spruce. The FN-200 model has 3 output ports and seems to blow a lot of air for not much current. The output tubes are about 3/4" long and have a diameter that is 0.025" LARGER than 5/8". You're supposed to push a 5/8" CAT tube over these outlets. The 5/8" CAT tube I bought does NOT want to go over those tubes. It's not very stretchy stuff. The fan manufacturer tells me to push hard and "screw" the tube on. Lubricants don't seem to help. It's really hard to do. I succeeded with one tube. Ruined the second one. The prospect of having to do this while laying under the instrument panel is awful. Has any one dealt with this fan product? Is there some secret to getting the tube to go over the outlets or is there some other type of tubing that I can use. I don't like vinyl tubing - it ages fast and makes bad chemicals when it burns. There's some polyethylene tube that might work. Thanks for any ideas. -- tom s., RV-6A.


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    Time: 08:41:32 PM PST US
    From: tom sargent <sarg314@comcast.net>
    Subject: nylo-seal and "inserts"
    The spruce catalog says that the 259-N nylo-seal inserts are not necessary when using the nylo-seal (nylon) tubing with the Nylo-seal fittings, but are to be used with polyethelene tubing. Yet Van's drawing #49 for my 6A shows them being used with the nylo-seal tubing and people seem to always mention the inserts regardless of tubing type. Are the inserts really necessary if you use the right tubing? Thanks, -- Tom S., TV-6A.


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    Time: 08:42:56 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk90658@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan


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    Time: 09:14:35 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@AOL.COM
    Subject: Slick Mag Health Check-up
    Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health. Advice? Links? Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc... _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/) **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)


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    Time: 10:21:38 PM PST US
    From: "Don Vs" <dsvs@ca.rr.com>
    Subject: nylo-seal and "inserts"
    Tom, If you8 cut the tube at exactly 90 degrees and tighten the fittings just the right amount, not doo much or too little you can get by with out the inserts. I would use them because with them you can make all the mistakes and they still seal. Don VS -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom sargent Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: RV-List: nylo-seal and "inserts" The spruce catalog says that the 259-N nylo-seal inserts are not necessary when using the nylo-seal (nylon) tubing with the Nylo-seal fittings, but are to be used with polyethelene tubing. Yet Van's drawing #49 for my 6A shows them being used with the nylo-seal tubing and people seem to always mention the inserts regardless of tubing type. Are the inserts really necessary if you use the right tubing? Thanks, -- Tom S., TV-6A.




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