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1. 04:06 AM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (Bobby Hester)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 605 TES/TBM)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (RICHARD MILLER)
4. 06:24 AM - Re: nylo-seal and "inserts" (Tim Bryan)
5. 06:29 AM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (Tim Bryan)
6. 07:34 AM - Re: Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning" (Trevor)
7. 11:23 AM - Composites for RV-10 (Dave Saylor)
8. 11:38 AM - Re: Composites for RV-10 (John Jessen)
9. 12:13 PM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (RICHARD MILLER)
10. 12:56 PM - Re: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan (Chuck Jensen)
11. 01:14 PM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (John Fasching)
12. 03:03 PM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (Bobby Hester)
13. 03:47 PM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (RICHARD MILLER)
14. 04:09 PM - RV-10 Composite Class Real Dates Nov 15 & 16 (Dave Saylor)
15. 05:07 PM - Re: Composites for RV-10 (Dave Saylor)
16. 05:16 PM - Builder Available! (Jack Sparling)
17. 07:29 PM - Re: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan (tom sargent)
18. 09:13 PM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
19. 09:52 PM - dual brakes vs. single (tom sargent)
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Subject: | Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
Well during my Part 65 A&P course last week, one of the question was
when does a Mag get rebuilt? The answer was during the engine rebuild. I
di learn how to take it all apart and change/set the points and set the
e-gap (an internal setting) and put it back together and set the timeing.
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Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
> Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and
> I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370
> & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to
> do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding
> checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but
> I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
>
> Advice? Links?
>
> Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
> http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel deal
> *here*
> <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047>.
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>
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Subject: | Slick Mag Health Check-up |
...and (if memory serves) Slick has a Mandatory Service Bulletin that
stipulates 400-Hr rebuild. If one experiences an engine stoppage, and
the overhaul has not been accomplished, I would bet the insurance
company won't pay.
neal
----
Well during my Part 65 A&P course last week, one of the question was
when does a Mag get rebuilt? The answer was during the engine rebuild. I
di learn how to take it all apart and change/set the points and set the
e-gap (an internal setting) and put it back together and set the
timeing.
----
Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up
and I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick
4370 & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW
to do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding
checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but
I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
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Subject: | Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
slick mags 500 hr inspection.
-at a minimum you should change the points and cam, relube,check the cond
ensor
inspect the distributor and change the brush. inspect the impluse coupling.
and rotor bearings.
-
the problem with a slick is the cost of the parts and the bench check requi
red after tear down makes them basically a throwaway mag. for a certified a
ircraft at least.
-
rick
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com> wrote:
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've bee
n trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magne
tos.- Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff
, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebu
ild etc.- Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about mak
ing sure she stays in perfect health.
-
Advice?- Links?
-
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
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Subject: | nylo-seal and "inserts" |
If you are talking about brakes, then use them on the suction side. They
may not be required, but they will allow you tighten the fittings enough to
insure no leaks without concern for the tubing.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tom sargent
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: nylo-seal and "inserts"
>
>
> The spruce catalog says that the 259-N nylo-seal inserts are not
> necessary when using the nylo-seal (nylon) tubing with the Nylo-seal
> fittings, but are to be used with polyethelene tubing. Yet Van's
> drawing #49 for my 6A shows them being used with the nylo-seal tubing
> and people seem to always mention the inserts regardless of tubing
> type.
> Are the inserts really necessary if you use the right tubing?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Tom S., TV-6A.
>
>
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Subject: | Slick Mag Health Check-up |
Rick,
Are you suggesting the mags should be thrown away after 500 hours? It isn't
clear in your message.
Thanks
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB over 100 hours now
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD MILLER
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
slick mags 500 hr inspection.
at a minimum you should change the points and cam, relube,check the
condensor
inspect the distributor and change the brush. inspect the impluse coupling.
and rotor bearings.
the problem with a slick is the cost of the parts and the bench check
required after tear down makes them basically a throwaway mag. for a
certified aircraft at least.
rick
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com> wrote:
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've been
trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371
magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of
stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points,
rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about
making sure she stays in perfect health.
Advice? Links?
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
_____
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal
<http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047> here.
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Subject: | Re: Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning" |
Yes I also had the exact same experience. Van's just shrugged their
shoulders and asked how I riveted. I have found another builder with the
same problem also one who was not aware of the "oil canning" until I pointed
it out. All on the right! I think their jig is slightly out or else the
batches were made at different times of the year where maybe temperature
differences had a part to play. Before riveting, I un-clecoed the left skin
and with the tension released, found the fit on the right to be perfect.
I managed to cure it somewhat by attaching a bit of left over stiffner angle
across 4 or so of the skin stiffeners (like a bridge) and glueing some foam
blocks between this stffener angle and the skin to make it more rigid. Not
perfect but at least the skin returns to normal after been "popped"
Trevor RV-7 Cape Town
----- Original Message -----
From: "Garey Wittich" <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
<rv8-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Elevator Skin "bowing" and Rudder "Oil Canning"
>
> Matt:
>
> Thank you for your Matronic Web Site - GREAT help !!!
>
> I have no experience with your "bowing" problem.
>
> Do have a question for you about "Oil Canning" of the Rudder Skin and did
> you have the same problem ??
>
> It occurs ONLY on the "right side" of the Rudder Skin: If I press down on
> the Rudder Skin between Stiffener 1 and 2, it stays DOWN and between
> Stiffener 2 and 3 the Skin pops UP and stays popped UP. Pressing down
> between Stiffener 2 and 3 (Skin stays down) and the Skin between Stiffener
> 1 and 2 pops up and stays that way. Acts like the Skin is stretched. Was
> VERY carefull with the Skin so as not to damage it during construction.
>
> Not sure if this will effect flight characteristics or is a common problem
> with other builders or can be a future fatigue problem. Anybody have any
> experience or ideas or knowledge about this ?????
>
>
> Thanks, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA
>
>
>
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Subject: | Composites for RV-10 |
AirCrafters will be holding another workshop for composites on RV-10s on the
weekend of November 18 and 19, 2008. The class will concentrate on RV-10s
but is also applicable to other RVs and as an intro to other composite
kitplanes.
This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and techniques
used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct materials and
processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, spinner, fairings, and
other composite parts. You will recieve hands-on training to identify and
use all necessary materials. Examples of completed and in-process assemblies
will be available to view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top.
Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many interested
parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're interested, first
come, first served, no additional charge.
Who:
Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical Engineering
and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many years. He has worked at
AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his day working with composites.
I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, and I
have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other composite and
aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from San Jose State.
When:
November 18 & 19, 2008
8AM-4PM Saturday
8AM-3PM Sunday
Where:
AirCrafters LLC
Watsonville Airport (KWVI)
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141
<outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
Class size is limited to 15 builders
Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. Please
call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required before November 10.
Balance due before class starts.
Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI.
Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the airport
discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft parking is available
at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with logistics.
Many thanks for your interest,
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
<http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Subject: | Composites for RV-10 |
Dave, this time I think I can make the class. Please sign me up. I'll send
a check. To whom do I make it out?
My best,
John Jessen
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: RV-List: Composites for RV-10
AirCrafters will be holding another workshop for composites on RV-10s on the
weekend of November 18 and 19, 2008. The class will concentrate on RV-10s
but is also applicable to other RVs and as an intro to other composite
kitplanes.
This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and techniques
used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct materials and
processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, spinner, fairings, and
other composite parts. You will recieve hands-on training to identify and
use all necessary materials. Examples of completed and in-process assemblies
will be available to view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top.
Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many interested
parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're interested, first
come, first served, no additional charge.
Who:
Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical Engineering
and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many years. He has worked at
AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his day working with composites.
I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, and I
have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other composite and
aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from San Jose State.
When:
November 18 & 19, 2008
8AM-4PM Saturday
8AM-3PM Sunday
Where:
AirCrafters LLC
Watsonville Airport (KWVI)
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141
<outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
Class size is limited to 15 builders
Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. Please
call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required before November 10.
Balance due before class starts.
Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI.
Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the airport
discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft parking is available
at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with logistics.
Many thanks for your interest,
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
<http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Subject: | Slick Mag Health Check-up |
tim
-with the replacment cost of 514/577$ repectively
and the overhaul parts only cost of 887/1189$. for overhaul these things ar
e throwaway. now for the five hundred inspection the t100 tooling kit is 43
2 dollars. the only time you need the full kit is for twin points so say 50
$ in special tools
-
next most people will charge about 200 to 250$ to go through one of these p
lus what ever parts are required.so lets say you just want to give it tune
up points cap condensor and rotor- = 415 dollars worth of parts alone s
o with labor you already 100.00$ over new cost. what most of my customers d
ue is inspect at every hundred/annual and throwaway at 750 or at any signs
of damage.
-
point kit- 40.00
condensor 97.00
bearings 126.00
bearing cap 64.00
coil 266
impluse coupling 302.00
rotor gear 8.00
oil seal 8.00
distributor block and gear 278.00
-
since an impluse coupling failure means a very expensive engine overhaul it
is your call about inspect or replace at the five hundred
-
-
let me tell you a recent story about a set of slicks on an io-520
at about 420 hr on the mags the owner complained to another shop that he ha
d high egts on climb out. for the next eighty hours they fiddle fart around
with the bird including a full fuel system overhaul for the price of 7500.
00$ still no luck fixing it. at 510 on the mags the owner experiences a twi
n mag failure a barely limps it to the field. after both mags are replace t
he egt problem goes away. eighty hours later the right mags burns up, then
started the saga of the sb-03. inspected the new mag after 10 hrs run found
out that it was already eating the brush and the left had not been built r
ight from the factory, excessive clearance on the coil tab, replace the lef
t mag. so in 600 hrs we have gone through 4 mags and had three in flight fa
ilures. changed the brushes to the aero assy. brush to stop the inspections
. and now plan to only open then at every annual. if you fly with slicks an
d especially if you fly high open them up every annual.
-
rick a+p, i/a
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote:
From: Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
Rick,
-
Are you suggesting the mags should be thrown away after 500 hours?- It is
n=A2t clear in your message.
Thanks
-
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TB-over 100 hours now
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
nics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD MILLER
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
-
slick mags 500 hr inspection.
-at a minimum you should change the points and cam, relube,check the cond
ensor
inspect the distributor and change the brush. inspect the impluse coupling.
and rotor bearings.
-
the problem with a slick is the cost of the parts and the bench check requi
red after tear down makes them basically a throwaway mag. for a certified a
ircraft at least.
-
rick
--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com> wrote:
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've bee
n trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magne
tos.- Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff
, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebu
ild etc.- Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about mak
ing sure she stays in perfect health.
-
Advice?- Links?
-
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
- -
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s.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution -
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Subject: | "ice-box" avionics cooling fan |
Tom,
Take a hair dryer, or even better, a shrink tube heater/blower, and heat up the
hose until its very hot to the touch. This will make the end pliable and stretch
over the hose nipple a little easier. When it cools, it'll be on for good.
Becareful if you used petroleum based lubricates, depending on hose type,
it can eventually degrade the hose.
Chuck Jensen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom sargent
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: RV-List: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan
I bought an "Ice-Box" avionics cooling fan from spruce. The FN-200
model has 3 output ports and seems to blow a lot of air for not much
current. The output tubes are about 3/4" long and have a diameter that
is 0.025" LARGER than 5/8". You're supposed to push a 5/8" CAT tube
over these outlets. The 5/8" CAT tube I bought does NOT want to go over
those tubes. It's not very stretchy stuff. The fan manufacturer tells
me to push hard and "screw" the tube on. Lubricants don't seem to help.
It's really hard to do. I succeeded with one tube. Ruined the second
one. The prospect of having to do this while laying under the instrument
panel is awful.
Has any one dealt with this fan product? Is there some secret to
getting the tube to go over the outlets or is there some other type of
tubing that I can use. I don't like vinyl tubing - it ages fast and
makes bad chemicals when it burns. There's some polyethylene tube that
might work.
Thanks for any ideas.
--
tom s., RV-6A.
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Subject: | Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
At those prices why not throw away the mags, put in Lightspeed
electronic units and be done with it?
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Subject: | Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
Well Mark, looks like you know exactly what to do now! Ha ha ha!
Unbelievable! I do not have a maintenance manual for the slick mags but
will try to get one from a buddy soon. I am sure you would still like to
know what the manual says is due and when.
----
Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
> Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and
> I've been trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370
> & 4371 magnetos. Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to
> do lots of stuff, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding
> checking points, rebuild etc. Her timing has always been spot-on, but
> I'm concerned about making sure she stays in perfect health.
>
> Advice? Links?
>
> Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
> http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel deal
> *here*
> <http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047>.
> *
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
HERE IS THE MANUAL
RICK
--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net> wrote:
From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up
Well Mark, looks like you know exactly what to do now!- Ha ha ha!
Unbelievable! I do not have a maintenance manual for the slick mags but wil
l try to get one from a buddy soon. I am sure you would still like to know
what the manual says is due and when.
----
Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my website at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
Mojo (She's a good girl!) is approaching her 500-hour check-up and I've bee
n trying to determine the maintenance needs for her Slick 4370 & 4371 magne
tos.- Research has led to a lot of info regarding HOW to do lots of stuff
, but not necessarily what NEEDS to be done regarding checking points, rebu
ild etc.- Her timing has always been spot-on, but I'm concerned about mak
ing sure she stays in perfect health.
-
Advice?- Links?
-
Mark, N51PW, E3D, OSHBL, S&FBMH, SERFIGC etc...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c
om/Navigator?RV-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co
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Subject: | RV-10 Composite Class Real Dates Nov 15 & 16 |
OK, let's make that November 15 and 16, which should really be a Saturday
and Sunday. Just to be complete:
This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and techniques
used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct materials and
processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, spinner, fairings, and
other composite parts. You will recieve hands-on training to identify and
use all necessary materials. Examples of completed and in-process assemblies
will be available to view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top.
Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many interested
parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're interested, first
come, first served, no additional charge.
Who:
Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical Engineering
and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many years. He has worked at
AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his day working with composites.
I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, and I
have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other composite and
aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from San Jose State.
When:
November 15 & 16, 2008
8AM-4PM Saturday
8AM-3PM Sunday
Where:
AirCrafters LLC
Watsonville Airport (KWVI)
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141
<outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
Class size is limited to 15 builders
Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. Please
call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required before November 7.
Balance due before class starts.
Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI.
Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the airport
discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft parking is available
at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with logistics.
Many thanks for your interest,
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
<http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Subject: | Composites for RV-10 |
Thanks, John. Did you see the "real" dates?
Dave
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Composites for RV-10
Dave, this time I think I can make the class. Please sign me up. I'll send
a check. To whom do I make it out?
My best,
John Jessen
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: RV-List: Composites for RV-10
AirCrafters will be holding another workshop for composites on RV-10s on the
weekend of November 18 and 19, 2008. The class will concentrate on RV-10s
but is also applicable to other RVs and as an intro to other composite
kitplanes.
This course will provide an overview of the composite parts and techniques
used on Van's Aircraft RV-10 kits. We will focus on correct materials and
processes, fitting the composite top and doors, cowl, spinner, fairings, and
other composite parts. You will recieve hands-on training to identify and
use all necessary materials. Examples of completed and in-process assemblies
will be available to view. We will be fitting and installing a cabin top.
Weather permitting, we'll be giving RV-10 demo flights to as many interested
parties as possible--indicate when you sign up if you're interested, first
come, first served, no additional charge.
Who:
Harold Bunyi and Dave Saylor. Harold holds a BS in Aeronautical Engineering
and built kitplane parts in the Phillipines for many years. He has worked at
AirCrafters for 6 years and spends most of his day working with composites.
I started working with composite kitplanes in 1998. I am an A&P/IA, and I
have finished my personal RV-10 project, along with many other composite and
aluminum projects. I recieved my BS in Aeronautics from San Jose State.
When:
November 18 & 19, 2008
8AM-4PM Saturday
8AM-3PM Sunday
Where:
AirCrafters LLC
Watsonville Airport (KWVI)
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141
<outbind://40/www.AirCraftersLLC.com> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
Class size is limited to 15 builders
Cost for the course is $350 payable by cash, check or credit card. Please
call or email to register. A 50% deposit is required before November 10.
Balance due before class starts.
Nearest major airport is San Jose International. 45 minute drive to KWVI.
Best Lodging is Watsonville Comfort Inn: 831-728-2300. Ask for the airport
discount. Other lodging is available nearby. Aircraft parking is available
at AirCrafters. Please call if we can help with logistics.
Many thanks for your interest,
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
<http://www.aircraftersllc.com/> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Subject: | Builder Available! |
If you are looking for someone to complete your project, I will be available
in September. Please take a look at my blog and give me a call to discuss
your needs.
All the best,
Jack Sparling
N5115Q 40487 210hrs.
Crestwood, Kentucky
Cell: (502) 262-6557
Jhs_61@yahoo.com
N5115Q.blogspot.com
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Subject: | Re: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan |
Thanks for the responses on this. Bob Perkins suggestion of clipping
out the spiral wire in the last 1/2" of the CAT tube seems to work
pretty good. An old A&P I know suggested that also. It's a litle
tricky since the wire is on the inside of the tube, but you can do it.
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A.
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Subject: | Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up |
In a message dated 8/27/2008 2:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rickpegser@yahoo.com writes:
with the replacment cost of 514/577$ repectively
Nick-
I'm not asking for horror stories or conjecture- I simply want to know what
I NEED to examine when I perform this next annual. The idea that these are
"throwaway" components after 500 hours of faithful service with no attention
whatsoever kind of speaks to their reliability and in my case at least,
debunks your assertion. Offering someone's component pricelist is informative,
but
I have a difficult time believing that EVERY component you list absolutely
needs replacement. This isn't about the FAA being forced to issue an AD
because some idiot deliberately pushed his hardware way beyond its limits, but
rather what I need to do to ensure that my carefully maintained and respectfully
operated machine continues to function as designed.
Please bear in mind that these mags are installed on an experimental
aircraft- I do NOT operate under threat of the Almighty AD, but rather the assurance
that the aircraft performs as expected by ME, the builder, and holder of the
Repairman Certificate for same...
So........
The original query stands: I've got these two little black chunks of
magneto I'd just LOVE to thoroughly investigate to make damn sure they will
continue to do what they do.
Specifically WHAT should I do?
Mark (thanks to all who have chimed in here!)
**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
deal here.
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
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Subject: | dual brakes vs. single |
I talked with Ken at Van's today about problems routing brake lines for
my dual brakes (my own fault mostly, for the way I organized things on
the firewall). He observed that he thinks dual brakes aren't worth it.
It's a few pounds of weight that almost never gives any benefit. He
says he's taking the dual brakes out of his plane soon.
Do those of you who have dual brakes ever really use the right side? I
thought it would be helpful if I ever took a CFI up with me. However,
removing them now would greatly simplify my brake routing problems.
I've just about decided to tear out the right side.
Thanks for any opions.
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A.
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