---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/31/08: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: Matt (Charles Kuss) 2. 06:12 AM - Hurricane options (Charlie England) 3. 06:47 AM - Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 (Larry Mac Donald) 4. 06:55 AM - Re: Matt (Jerry Springer) 5. 07:49 AM - Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) (N395V) 6. 08:18 AM - Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133... (MLWynn@aol.com) 7. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Slick Mags (RICHARD MILLER) 8. 08:37 AM - Re: Your email requires verification verify (Bob Marshall) 9. 08:38 AM - Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC13... (Knicholas2@aol.com) 10. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) (RICHARD MILLER) 11. 09:16 AM - Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 (Ed Godfrey) 12. 09:24 AM - Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133... (mark phipps) 13. 10:15 AM - Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) (N395V) 14. 02:24 PM - Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 (William Dean) 15. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 (jimmy) 16. 03:35 PM - Re: Matt (Tim Bryan) 17. 10:41 PM - Re: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan (linn Walters) 18. 10:41 PM - Re: nylo-seal and "inserts" (linn Walters) 19. 11:06 PM - Re: Slick Mag Health Check-up (linn Walters) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:13 AM PST US From: Charles Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: Matt Jerry, The real problem is that Bill did not mention to the listers that they should reply to him DIRECTLY, NOT to the list. Charlie Kuss --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Jerry Springer wrote: > From: Jerry Springer > Subject: RV-List: Matt > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 11:45 PM > > > Cut Bill Vondane off the email list tell he fixes his > problem > this is killing my email. I know I should just block him > but it sucks to > come home and open my email and see his spam over and over > again. > > Jerry > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:32 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: RV-List: Hurricane options If any of you guys on the MS or LA coasts need shelter, we've got 2 bedrooms & several airbeds, plus shelter for several RV-size a/c. We are just north of Jackson MS at MS71. Give me a call if we can help. Charlie 601-879-9596 601-752-7198 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 From: Larry Mac Donald On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:40:22 -0400 bill@vondane.com writes: > > I'm sorry.....but due to the fact that I am now getting over 2000 > spam/junk emails per week I am now forced to use a verification > program to keep my inbox from filling up... > > So.....just this one time I need you to verify you are a human > before I get your massage... > > To complete this verification, simply reply to this message and > leave the subject line intact. > > Thanks! > -Bill > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Stay connected on the go with a full featured tablet PC. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mD8b1wR6IkuLmRgttpHc2yUV2wnDWheZBtrIL6eApCqBWUT/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:42 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Matt Bill has taken care f the problem, but he should have allowed RV-List past his filter from the start. Everytime someone would send an email to the list it would go to him from the list then bounce back to the list which in turn would be send out to everyone again. This would happen for each email sent to the list. do not archive Charles Kuss wrote: > >Jerry, > The real problem is that Bill did not mention to the listers that they should reply to him DIRECTLY, NOT to the list. >Charlie Kuss > > >--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Jerry Springer wrote: > > > >>From: Jerry Springer >>Subject: RV-List: Matt >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 11:45 PM >> >> >>Cut Bill Vondane off the email list tell he fixes his >>problem >>this is killing my email. I know I should just block him >>but it sucks to >>come home and open my email and see his spam over and over >>again. >> >>Jerry >> >> >> > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:08 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) From: "N395V" The heart of the issue is $$$$$$$$ The old (existing) rules worked just fine until the amateur built factories popped up. The FAA and DARs had a large degree of latitude in their inspections and awarding of airworthiness certificates as well as repairman's certificates. Unfortunately a few kit manufacturers and small shops stepped over the line hired some DARs and started assembly lines. This got the attention of the manufacturers of certified planes and resulted in the lobbying that will ultimately lead to a rule change. The really sad thing is that, I suspect, at least one of the most egregious offenders participated in formulating the new rules. I had a co worker who spent a year writing checks to have a plane built. Once every 3 months he flew to the factory and had his picture taken next to his project with a tool in his hand. He filled out and signed the affidavit, applied for the N number, and showed up for the inspection with the DAR 1 year after the aircraft started construction. (Yes for this 2500hr plus airplane his builders log was compressed into 12 months) I assumed the hired DAR would sign his papers and voila he was a builder. Much to my surprise the DAR took his check, asked a few questions and said, "it is obvious you did not build this plane and I am not going to approve it". Now at this point my coworker should have gone to jail for falsifying the affidavit, instead nothing happened to him and the plane got certified with someone else's name as the builder. Enforcement of the existing rules would suffice and if applied in this case with legal action against my coworker and the "factory" would have ended the problem. Instead we have new scrutiny in a time when the press, the general public, and many politicians would just love to see us and all of general aviation dissappear. It would be so refreshing to see the EAA step in and demand vigorous enforcement of the existing rules. But thats not going to happen is it? -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1796#201796 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:14 AM PST US From: MLWynn@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133... In a message dated 8/30/2008 12:42:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bill@vondane.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: bill@vondane.com I'm sorry.....but due to the fact that I am now getting over 2000 spam/junk emails per week I am now forced to use a verification program to keep my inbox from filling up... So.....just this one time I need you to verify you are a human before I get your massage... To complete this verification, simply reply to this message and leave the subject line intact. Thanks! -Bill **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:17 AM PST US From: RICHARD MILLER Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Slick Mags mike About ten % of my work is experimental. and of that i would say that 20% have some type of electronic ignition. i just don,t have enough time on the systems to have a warm and fussy feelings for them. Maybe i am just a stick in the mud, but new is not always better. show me a system with 20yrs on it and 100,000 hrs. and then i will decide to recommend or not. since this is critical life support equipment, and none of the manufactures i have seen have published complete testing data, including esd/lighting, mtf, and age/enviromental relate degridation, i will just sit on the side line for now. rick --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Mike Divan wrote: > From: Mike Divan > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Slick Mags > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 8:27 AM > WOW - I thought I sent this to you privatively. And I must > agree with Jerry and conclude that you are new to > "EXPERIMENTAL" aircraft. I will stick with the > tried and true people like Sam B and others. I was just > "kicking the tires" on another source of > information. But I like the old hands the best. > > Thanks > > Mike Divan > N64GH - RV6,flying :) > SLOW 7 Builder :( > EAA - 577486 > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jerry Springer > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:20:39 AM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Slick Mags > > > > Richard are you new to the Experimental aircraft movement? > Electronic > ignition has been around for years and years and used > successfully. > > > RICHARD MILLER wrote: > > > > > >MIKE > > > > we would all love to have fadec systems for our > aircraft. and electronic ignition. but it comes to a comfort > factor. electronics fail in worse case mode 95% of the time. > while mags when they fail tend to do so slowly and if you > know what to look for you can find it before total failure. > > > > the next problem with fadec type controls is > lightnining, have a billion volts of electricity running > thru your electronics, can cause a bad day. i have seen > holes as big as 1/2 inch burned in to commercial airframes > from this. but to be honest most just look like arc hits and > can be drilled out with a 3/16 bit. > > > > with proper burnin and testing electronic work > great, but i don't have enough history with the E+P > mags, to say which way i would go. i do know that this > testing is expensive and it has taken slick and bendix many > years to develope like type equipment. ie get it right > enough to go to market. i like the idea i do not know yet if > i like the approach. > > > > So what would the great slick hater do if it was my > aircraft. if i won the lotto i would buy a gulfstream and > never have to worry about slicks again, but since this will > not happen, and i don't have an extra 2400$ lieing > around to change to bendix. inspection is the way to go. > look at it and cleanup the carbon dust that will prolong the > life of your mag more then anything else. figure 100 hr > inspection include the mag for cleanup and inspection. if > you start to see carbon tracking/ arc damage it is time to > replace/repair. that is the time you should start thinking > about replacement > > > > i wish that could help you more with the e+p mags, > but with my limited experience with them, i can only say > that it is an idea whose time has come but lets see if they > really work in the field. > >rick > > > > > >--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Mike Divan > wrote: > > > > > > > >>From: Mike Divan > >>Subject: Slick Mags > >>To: rickpegser@yahoo.com > >>Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 5:20 PM > >>Rick > >> > >>Thanks for your last reply to the list. It sure > changed my > >>impression of you. Everyone has bad days so no big > deal. > >> > >>Now that you have posted a more reasoned response > as to why > >>you do not like the Slick Mags I have a question > for ya. I > >>have new Slick's on my RV6 about a year old > with 70 > >>hours more or less on them. I pulled them apart > with a > >>A&P (a young and relative new A&P but he > has more > >>experience than me) and they did not look bad > (again I am > >>NEW at this). Some ware on the brushes but it was > hard to > >>determine from the drawing in the SB if it was bad > or > >>not.Pulled apart some mags that were before the SB > (about > >>100 hr on them) and mine looked better so I decided > to put > >>mine back into service. HOWEVER it does concern me > that they > >>are having these problems. Not sure what it takes > to switch > >>over to the Bendix but the thought of chucking over > $1000 in > >>a year is not sitting well with me. My plan at the > moment is > >>pull them apart ever 100 or annual whichever comes > first. > >>Next time with the help of a more experienced > A&P. OK my > >>question is what experience (if any) do you > >> have with those E & P-mags > (http://www.emagair.com/). > >>If I need to throw away all that money I want to > "up > >>grade" to something better. And at lest from > reading > >>those seem like the simplest upgrade to electronic > ignition. > >> > >>I ask your opinion because there at the end you had > (to me) > >>a reasoned and well thought reason for your > opinion. > >> > >> Mike Divan > >>N64GH - RV6,flying :) > >>EAA - 577486 > >>FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER > FOR YOURS! > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:17 AM PST US From: "Bob Marshall" Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify I'm real. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:51 AM PST US From: Knicholas2@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC13... _KNicholas2@aol.com_ (mailto:KNicholas2@aol.com) is a real person. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:56 AM PST US From: RICHARD MILLER Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) milt it is nice to see that at least one dar has the backbone to do what is right. The only future that i see with builder assist centers that i see is a "rent a shop" type ideas with "tech advisors" on site. but even that would only help in areas with high builder density and cheap floor space. some thing like the military base autoshops that had all the equipment for you and all you did was rent a stall to work on your car. rick --- On Sun, 8/31/08, N395V wrote: > From: N395V > Subject: RV-List: Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 7:45 AM > > > The heart of the issue is $$$$$$$$ > > The old (existing) rules worked just fine until the amateur > built factories popped up. > > The FAA and DARs had a large degree of latitude in their > inspections and awarding of airworthiness certificates as > well as repairman's certificates. > > Unfortunately a few kit manufacturers and small shops > stepped over the line hired some DARs and started assembly > lines. > > This got the attention of the manufacturers of certified > planes and resulted in the lobbying that will ultimately > lead to a rule change. > > The really sad thing is that, I suspect, at least one of > the most egregious offenders participated in formulating the > new rules. > > I had a co worker who spent a year writing checks to have a > plane built. > Once every 3 months he flew to the factory and had his > picture taken next to his project with a tool in his hand. > He filled out and signed the affidavit, applied for the N > number, and showed up for the inspection with the DAR 1 year > after the aircraft started construction. (Yes for this > 2500hr plus airplane his builders log was compressed into 12 > months) > > I assumed the hired DAR would sign his papers and voila he > was a builder. > > Much to my surprise the DAR took his check, asked a few > questions and said, "it is obvious you did not build > this plane and I am not going to approve it". > > Now at this point my coworker should have gone to jail for > falsifying the affidavit, instead nothing happened to him > and the plane got certified with someone else's name as > the builder. > > Enforcement of the existing rules would suffice and if > applied in this case with legal action against my coworker > and the "factory" would have ended the problem. > > Instead we have new scrutiny in a time when the press, the > general public, > and many politicians would just love to see us and all of > general aviation dissappear. > > It would be so refreshing to see the EAA step in and demand > vigorous enforcement of the existing rules. But thats not > going to happen is it? > > -------- > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1796#201796 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:37 AM PST US From: Ed Godfrey Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 As far as I can tell, I am a human. bill@vondane.com wrote: > > I'm sorry.....but due to the fact that I am now getting over 2000 spam/junk emails per week I am now forced to use a verification program to keep my inbox from filling up... > > So.....just this one time I need you to verify you are a human before I get your massage... > > To complete this verification, simply reply to this message and leave the subject line intact. > > Thanks! > -Bill > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:44 AM PST US From: mark phipps Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133... --- On Sun, 8/31/08, MLWynn@aol.com wrote: From: MLWynn@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6 twbdu6HC133... - - In a message dated 8/30/2008 12:42:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bill@vond ane.com writes: I'm sorry.....but due to the fact that I am now getting over 2000 spam/junk emails per week I am now forced to use a verification program to keep my i nbox from filling up... So.....just this one time I need you to verify you are a human before I get your massage... To complete this verification, simply reply to this message and leave the s ubject line ===================== ==== It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:56 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Professional Built Plane (PBP) From: "N395V" > it is nice to see that at least one dar I think 99% of DARs are honest, dedicated professionals who would also do the right thing. It is the 1 % that give the bad impression being generated by this controversy. Every DAR I have ever met is an honest hardworking individual who plays by the rules. I have absolute and immense respect for all the DARs out there. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 1818#201818 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:23 PM PST US From: William Dean Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 --- On Sat, 8/30/08, jvanlaak@aol.com wrote: From: jvanlaak@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 -----Original Message----- From: bill@vondane.com Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 3:40 pm Subject: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 I'm sorry.....but due to the fact that I am now getting over 2000 spam/junk emails per week I am now forced to use a verification program to keep my inbox from filling up... So.....just this one time I need you to verify you are a human before I get your massage... To complete this verification, simply reply to this message and leave the subject line intact. Thanks! -Bill Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:45:46 PM PST US From: "jimmy" Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 Please stop ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Your email requires verification verify#hVvC0p4JjlzN6twbdu6HC133uJ7PK2r9 > > This message is a reply to Bill VonDane's email verifcation message. > > No action is needed on your part. > > Thanks! > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:35:27 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Matt Aside from the fact that being on his special list does not affect your getting his list mail. There was no need to do this with him at all unless you mail with him privately or directly. I suspect he didn't realize when he implemented that it was going to do this to the list system. Do Not Archive. Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 100 hours now > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Kuss > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:03 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Matt > > > Jerry, > The real problem is that Bill did not mention to the listers that they > should reply to him DIRECTLY, NOT to the list. > Charlie Kuss > > > --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Jerry Springer wrote: > > > From: Jerry Springer > > Subject: RV-List: Matt > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 11:45 PM > > > > > > Cut Bill Vondane off the email list tell he fixes his > > problem > > this is killing my email. I know I should just block him > > but it sucks to > > come home and open my email and see his spam over and over > > again. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:06 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: "ice-box" avionics cooling fan Tom, bevel the edge slightly to ease the scat tubing over the port. The wire should be bent back and pushed inside the tube where it can't poke a hole in it. It does take a lot of patience though! Linn tom sargent wrote: > > I bought an "Ice-Box" avionics cooling fan from spruce. The FN-200 > model has 3 output ports and seems to blow a lot of air for not much > current. The output tubes are about 3/4" long and have a diameter > that is 0.025" LARGER than 5/8". You're supposed to push a 5/8" CAT > tube over these outlets. The 5/8" CAT tube I bought does NOT want to > go over those tubes. It's not very stretchy stuff. The fan > manufacturer tells me to push hard and "screw" the tube on. Lubricants > don't seem to help. It's really hard to do. I succeeded with one > tube. Ruined the second one. The prospect of having to do this while > laying under the instrument panel is awful. > > Has any one dealt with this fan product? Is there some secret to > getting the tube to go over the outlets or is there some other type of > tubing that I can use. I don't like vinyl tubing - it ages fast and > makes bad chemicals when it burns. There's some polyethylene tube > that might work. > > Thanks for any ideas. > > -- > tom s., RV-6A. > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:22 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: nylo-seal and "inserts" Really necessary? No. Cheap insurance though. Linn do not archive tom sargent wrote: > > The spruce catalog says that the 259-N nylo-seal inserts are not > necessary when using the nylo-seal (nylon) tubing with the Nylo-seal > fittings, but are to be used with polyethelene tubing. Yet Van's > drawing #49 for my 6A shows them being used with the nylo-seal tubing > and people seem to always mention the inserts regardless of tubing > type. Are the inserts really necessary if you use the right tubing? > > Thanks, > -- > Tom S., TV-6A. > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:06:27 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up Pretty strong words without any data. I have seen both Bendix and Slick mags go over 2000 hours with no maintenance until I heard about the 500 hour suggested inspection/overhaul time. The difference after overhaul is astounding. The degradation over time is so slow as to make it unnoticeable. After the overhaul though, the Bendix mags make a hotter spark. But the Slicks weigh less. You need to decide which is mor important to you. I think the inspection/overhaul is best left to someone that does a lot of them and has the tools. Linn RICHARD MILLER wrote: > mark > it is rick not nick > the first post i told you what to look for. > > i have posted the manual and told you what we do for this inspection. > if i have to put it in big letters i will.*_slick mags are junk. given > half a chance they will kill you._**_ _*ask any mag shop what they > think about them. they are plastic pieces of crap and i would not have > them on my aircraft. yes i fly slicks only because some of my > customers have them. this is not conjecture, this is the truth. slick > got a place in the industry with the throwaway mag originally, and > stayed there when bendix had the ad problem. if you don't have the > money to throw them away, then plan on going thru them. but if you > have one problem you will have spent more then a new mag. by the way > if the mag impluse coupling comes apart they will not cover any > damages. since they did not do the inspection. and the price list was > slicks not mine or anybodyelse . the list i included was for all of > the items that slick requires to be replaced at overhaul with is not > to exceed the tbo of the engine. From field experience, if you get > more then 1000 hr from a slick you are looking for an off field > landing. this did not include the recent cam service bulletin or the > brush bulletin. they have had problems with the brush for the last > four years, so take your chances. it is your bird. > > if you fly slick mags cost is about 2.50$ per flight hour, to replace > at 500. bendix with original cost adjustment is about the same. let me > guess that is probably how slick figure out thier priceing? book it > and budget it. and somebody needs to telll me why a coil costs 60% of > the cost of a new mag. > > rick > > > --- On *Wed, 8/27/08, Fiveonepw@aol.com //* wrote: > > From: Fiveonepw@aol.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick Mag Health Check-up > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:12 PM > > In a message dated 8/27/2008 2:15:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > rickpegser@yahoo.com writes: > > with the replacment cost of 514/577$ repectively > > Nick- > > I'm not asking for horror stories or conjecture- I simply want to > know what I NEED to examine when I perform this next annual. The > idea that these are "throwaway" components after 500 hours of > faithful service with no attention whatsoever kind of speaks to > their reliability and in my case at least, debunks your > assertion. Offering someone's component pricelist is informative, > but I have a difficult time believing that EVERY component you > list absolutely needs replacement. This isn't about the FAA being > forced to issue an AD because some idiot deliberately pushed his > hardware way beyond its limits, but rather what I need to do to > ensure that my carefully maintained and respectfully > operated machine continues to function as designed. > > Please bear in mind that these mags are installed on an > experimental aircraft- I do NOT operate under threat of the > Almighty AD, but rather the assurance that the aircraft performs > as expected by ME, the builder, and holder of the Repairman > Certificate for same... > > So........ > > The original query stands: I've got these two little black chunks > of magneto I'd just LOVE to thoroughly investigate to make damn > sure they will continue to do what they do. > > Specifically WHAT should I do? > > Mark (thanks to all who have chimed in here!) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. 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