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     1. 01:21 AM - Engine-landing gear mount loose (Wheeler North)
     2. 05:17 AM - Loose bolts (scott bilinski)
     3. 07:01 AM - Re: Loose bolts (Michael Kraus)
     4. 08:05 AM - paint shaker recommendation (John Bright)
     5. 08:09 AM - Re: Loose bolts (Bob J.)
     6. 08:28 AM - Re: Loose bolts (scott bilinski)
     7. 08:31 AM - Re: Loose bolts (Schans, Jeffery)
     8. 09:37 AM - Need a fairing (bert murillo)
     9. 09:54 AM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (bert murillo)
    10. 10:51 AM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (Michael W Stewart)
    11. 11:28 AM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (scott bilinski)
    12. 12:07 PM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (Bill Boyd)
    13. 12:32 PM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (bert murillo)
    14. 12:56 PM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (Bill Boyd)
    15. 12:59 PM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (Richard Dudley)
    16. 01:18 PM - Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? (Charles Kuss)
    17. 02:27 PM - Re: paint shaker recommendation (linn Walters)
    18. 02:29 PM - Re: Loose bolts (Scott)
    19. 02:50 PM - Re: Loose bolts (BELTEDAIR@aol.com)
    20. 03:58 PM - Re: paint shaker recommendation (Tim Lewis)
    21. 05:09 PM - Blood Oxygen Levels (John Fasching)
    22. 06:23 PM - Re: Blood Oxygen Levels (b e)
    23. 06:56 PM - Re: Blood Oxygen Levels (RV6 Flyer)
    24. 07:23 PM - Re: Loose bolts (Fiveonepw@AOL.COM)
    25. 08:38 PM - Re: paint shaker recommendation (Todd Bartrim)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Engine-landing gear mount loose | 
      
      
      Warning,
      
      I was working on a project to move stuff away from my cooling outlet and
      observed that the four lower bolts holding my engine/landing gear mount on
      were in excess of 1/2 a turn loose, as in easily turnable by finger.
      
      These are cotter pinned. TTIS is 1240 on an RV-6, bolts last checked three
      years ago and I delayed this because I got tired of ruining good cotter pins
      when nothing was ever loose.
      
      So it's back to ruining cotter pins,,, I pulled a few of the bolts out and
      explored, but I didn't find any reason for why things got loose in the last
      200 hours but didn't in the first 1000???
      
      Also, there was a rant some time ago about AD's and how they do or don't
      apply to experimentals. The recent ECI Titan cylinder AD 2008-19-05 pretty
      much applies to any installation where that range of serial number cylinders
      with a specific part number are in service. While they do use the verbiage
      "Lycoming engines with these cylinders installed" the focus is clearly the
      cylinders irrespective of what you choose to call your Lycoming parallel
      valve engine. They also list cases of engines and aircraft where these might
      be found but they do not limit the AD to these groups. The focus is on those
      parts as installed in an airplane.
      
      If you have Titan cylinders but not those in that range or part numbers you
      might want to note this in the engine logs.
      
      
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      I have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the exhaust bolts,
      I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold". Then the valve covers
      started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal". Well the screws were so
      loose I could remove some with my fingers, now they have been tightened and the
      leaks have stopped and have not come loose again since. The last couple bolts
      I found loose were to the case halves! From what I have read about others and
      their loose hardware experiences, the next upcoming annual just months away,
      ALL fasteners will be checked over the entire aircraft.
      
       Scott 
      
      
            
      
      
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      Where did you get your engine?
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:15 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Loose bolts
      
      
      I have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the exhaust bolts,
      I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold". Then the valve covers
      started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal". Well the screws were so
      loose I could remove some with my fingers, now they have been tightened and the
      leaks have stopped and have not come loose again since. The last couple bolts
      I found loose were to the case halves! From what I have read about others and
      their loose hardware experiences, the next upcoming annual just months away,
      ALL fasteners will be checked over the entire aircraft.
      
       Scott 
      
      
            
      
      
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| Subject:  | paint shaker recommendation | 
      
      Can anyone recommend a paint shaker for quart and gallon cans?
      
       Thanks,
      
      
      John Bright
      o:757-864-2305
      h:757-874-0861
      c:757-812-1909
      http://www.facebook.com/people/John_Bright/1450601073
      
      
            
      
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      One of the engineers I know from Lycoming has told me in the past that
      Lycoming case half bolts should be checked periodically for torque
      (100in/lbs) and that its not uncommon to find loose bolts.  In other words
      check them at every condition inspection.
      
      Regards,
      Bob Japundza
      RV-6 flying F1 under const.
      
      On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > I have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the
      > exhaust bolts, I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold". Then
      > the valve covers started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal". Well the
      > screws were so loose I could remove some with my fingers, now they have been
      > tightened and the leaks have stopped and have not come loose again since.
      > The last couple bolts I found loose were to the case halves! From what I
      > have read about others and their loose hardware experiences, the next
      > upcoming annual just months away, ALL fasteners will be checked over the
      > entire aircraft.
      >
      >  Scott
      >
      >
      
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      They were tight when the engine was new/refurbed. This was after several hundred
      hours flying. 
      
      Scott 
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:00:07 AM
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Loose bolts
      
      
      Where did you get your engine?
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:15 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Loose bolts
      
      
      I have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the exhaust bolts,
      I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold". Then the valve covers
      started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal". Well the screws were so
      loose I could remove some with my fingers, now they have been tightened and the
      leaks have stopped and have not come loose again since. The last couple bolts
      I found loose were to the case halves! From what I have read about others and
      their loose hardware experiences, the next upcoming annual just months away,
      ALL fasteners will be checked over the entire aircraft.
      
      Scott 
      
      
         
      
      
            
      
      
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      Here is the actual tightening procedure.
      
      
      Jeff Schans
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob J.
      Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:34 AM
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Loose bolts
      
      
      One of the engineers I know from Lycoming has told me in the past that
      Lycoming case half bolts should be checked periodically for torque
      (100in/lbs) and that its not uncommon to find loose bolts.  In other
      words check them at every condition inspection.
      
      Regards,
      Bob Japundza
      RV-6 flying F1 under const.
      
      On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      wrote:
      
      
      I have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the
      exhaust bolts, I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold".
      Then the valve covers started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal".
      Well the screws were so loose I could remove some with my fingers, now
      they have been tightened and the leaks have stopped and have not come
      loose again since. The last couple bolts I found loose were to the case
      halves! From what I have read about others and their loose hardware
      experiences, the next upcoming annual just months away, ALL fasteners
      will be checked over the entire aircraft.
      
       Scott
      
      
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      Hi:
      -
      Another thing I loose,- my Nose gear fairing, for my RV6A... Any one has 
      an extra
      I can buy?
      -
      -
      Before I lost the Empennage Fairing, but later I found it,, that is the way
       it is...
      now I have an extra- Tail Fairing.... 
      -
      Thanks
      -
      Bert
      -
      RV6A
      -
      do not archive=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      I would like to know the reason and benefit of this tool.....? Why?
      If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common sense, is to use Oxi
      gen
      no?- I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood needs more Oxige
      n..
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      Another expense- for what... Am I missing something here??
      -
      Bert
      
      --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
      
      From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
      
      I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased the Ch
      eckmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required. -Zero sales tax, $10.0
      0 shipping. 
      -
      Robin
      Do Not Archive
      -
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
      nics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin
      Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      -
      
      
      If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have be
      en offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.
      - If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.- 
      Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.-
      
      -
      
      I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a
       great safety tool.- 
      
      -
      
      -Email me at:- bisonmountain@gmail.com- to get on the list.- Link t
      o our pulse oximeter webpage:- http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate
      .html--- We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visi
      t.- Thanks.
      
      -
      
      Kurt
      
      www.bisonmountainbags.com
      
      bisonmountain@gmail.com
      
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| Subject:  | Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      
      Its a tool to tell you IF you need it, and IF its working, how well its
      
      working, and if you need to administer more or less oxygen.
      This is a safety of flight device for flight in the over 10k ranges.
      I use mine all the time. Pulse/x is a very good measure of things.
      Best,
      Mike,
      
      
                                                                             
          
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       I would like to know the reason and benefit of this tool.....? Why?   
                                                                             
              
       If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common sense, is to us
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       no?  I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood needs more Ox
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       Another expense  for what... Am I missing something here??            
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
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        Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?                            
                                                                             
              
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        I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased 
      the Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required.  Zero sales ta
      x,      
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        From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server
      @matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin                                  
              
        Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM                          
                                                                             
              
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        Subject: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?                                
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
       If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I ha
      ve been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse  
              
       Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for
       $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.          
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
       I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters 
      are a great safety tool.                                               
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
                                                                             
                                                                             
              
        Email me at:  bisonmountain@gmail.com  to get on the list.  Link to o
      ur pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.
      html    
       We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks
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| Subject:  | Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who 
      needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really goo
      d shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k. =0A=0A-Scott =0A=0A=0A=0A----
      - Original Message ----=0AFrom: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>=0ATo: 
      rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:52:37 AM=0ASubj
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      -10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.- Sportys sells these fo
      r $169 so its a great price.-=0A-=0AI had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few w
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| Subject:  | Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      Also tells you if merely deeper breathing is working to increase your
      oxygenation.  It often helps enough, more than you'd think.
      
      Bill B
      
      On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:27 PM, scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who
      > needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really good
      > shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k.
      >
      >
      > Scott
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      +
      scott:- Thanks-- but you did not answer my question,- I know what y
      ou said...
      but- why to have a machine to tell you that you need Oxigen....It has bee
      n written
      for decades, and that is a fact,- that one must use Oxigen 10,000 and abo
      ve,- but
      but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen, even- at 5,000 re
      gardless,
      it will refresh you and make you- more alert on those long trips....
      -
      So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,, yes you need Oxige
      n,,then
      what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?
      -
      what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,, you are at 14,0
      00
      now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,
      nothing of this make sense to me...
      -
      Bert
      -
      
      --- On Tue, 9/16/08, scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Re: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
      
      Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who 
      needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really goo
      d shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k. 
      
      
      -Scott 
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:52:37 AM
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
      
      I would like to know the reason and benefit of this tool.....? Why?
      If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common sense, is to use Oxi
      gen
      no?- I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood needs more Oxige
      n..
      -
      Another expense- for what... Am I missing something here??
      -
      Bert
      
      --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
      
      From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
      
      I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased the Ch
      eckmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required. -Zero sales tax, $10.0
      0 shipping. 
      -
      Robin 
      Do Not Archive 
      - 
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
      nics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin
      Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      - 
      
      
      If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have be
      en offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.
      - If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.- 
      Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.-
      
      -
      
      I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a
       great safety tool.- 
      
      -
      
      -Email me at:- bisonmountain@gmail.com- to get on the list.- Link t
      o our pulse oximeter webpage:- http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate
      .html--- We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visi
      t.- Thanks.
      
      -
      
      Kurt
      
      www.bisonmountainbags.com
      
      bisonmountain@gmail.com
      
      -
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| Subject:  | Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      Bert, oxygen is not simply "on" or "off;" it comes in quantities (liters per
      minute), and it's fairly expensive.  If you are running low on oxygen during
      a flight where it is called for, it is a precious commodity.  Therefore, it
      is helpful to have a device that tells the pilot how much oxygen is
      required, so that only this much is used and no more.  There is no way to
      tell by subjective feelings whether the amount of oxygen flow selected is
      enough, too much, or too little.  Only an objective measurement can allow
      for precise dosing.  The only safe alternative to pulse oximetry in flight
      is to run oxygen flows at much higher rates that are truly needed, just to
      cover all possibilities.  This is wasteful, and can exhaust your oxygen
      cylinder just when you need it most.
      
      Helpful?
      
      Bill B
      
      On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:29 PM, bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > +
      > scott:  Thanks   but you did not answer my question,  I know what you
      > said...
      > but  why to have a machine to tell you that you need Oxigen....It has been
      > written
      > for decades, and that is a fact,  that one must use Oxigen 10,000 and
      > above,  but
      > but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen, even  at 5,000
      > regardless,
      > it will refresh you and make you  more alert on those long trips....
      >
      > So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,, yes you need
      > Oxigen,,then
      > what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?
      >
      > what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,, you are at
      > 14,000
      > now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,
      > nothing of this make sense to me...
      >
      > Bert
      >
      >
      > --- On *Tue, 9/16/08, scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>* wrote:
      >
      > From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:27 PM
      >
      >  Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot
      > who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really
      > good shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k.
      >
      >
      > Scott
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:52:37 AM
      > Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      >
      >   I would like to know the reason and benefit of this tool.....? Why?
      > If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common sense, is to use
      > Oxigen
      > no?  I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood needs more
      > Oxigen..
      >
      > Another expense  for what... Am I missing something here??
      >
      > Bert
      >
      > --- On *Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>* wrote:
      >
      > From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
      > Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:55 PM
      >
      >  I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased the
      > Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required.  Zero sales tax, $10.00
      > shipping.
      >
      >
      > Robin
      >
      > Do Not Archive
      >
      >
      > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *K Klewin
      > *Sent:* Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM
      > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      >
      >
      > If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have
      > been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse
      > Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for
      > $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.
      >
      >
      > I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a
      > great safety tool.
      >
      >
      >  Email me at:  bisonmountain@gmail.com  to get on the list.  Link to our
      > pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html
      > We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.
      >
      >
      > Kurt
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| Subject:  | Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      Hi Bert,
      
      I think that the point is that, even if you are using oxygen, a device 
      that measures the oxygen saturation in your blood will tell you that you 
      are receiving ENOUGH oxygen and that your oxygen equipment is working 
      correctly - OR, you are not getting ENOUGH. Possibly increase the flow 
      or as somone said: "take deeper breaths" to assimilate more oxygen. It 
      would be too bad if you go merrily along with the oxygen flowing and not 
      know that you are not getting enough for sufficient oxygen saturation. 
      Measuring the oxygen saturation could give you the confidence that you 
      are OK.
      
      Regards,
      
      Rich Dudley
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: bert murillo 
        To: rv-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:29 PM
        Subject: Re: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
      
              +
              scott:  Thanks   but you did not answer my question,  I know 
      what you said...
              but  why to have a machine to tell you that you need 
      Oxigen....It has been written
              for decades, and that is a fact,  that one must use Oxigen 
      10,000 and above,  but
              but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen, even  at 
      5,000 regardless,
              it will refresh you and make you  more alert on those long 
      trips....
      
              So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,, yes you 
      need Oxigen,,then
              what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?
      
              what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,, you 
      are at 14,000
              now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,
              nothing of this make sense to me...
      
              Bert
      
      
              --- On Tue, 9/16/08, scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
                From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
                Subject: Re: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
                To: rv-list@matronics.com
                Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:27 PM
      
      
                Different people react differently to altitude. I know one 
      woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people 
      who are in really good shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k. 
      
                 
                Scott 
      
      
                ----- Original Message ----
                From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
                To: rv-list@matronics.com
                Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:52:37 AM
                Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
                      I would like to know the reason and benefit of this 
      tool.....? Why?
                      If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common 
      sense, is to use Oxigen
                      no?  I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood 
      needs more Oxigen..
      
                      Another expense  for what... Am I missing something 
      here??
      
                      Bert
      
                      --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> 
      wrote:
      
                        From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
                        Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
                        To: rv-list@matronics.com
                        Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:55 PM
      
      
                        I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months 
      ago. I purchased the Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group 
      required.  Zero sales tax, $10.00 shipping. 
      
      
                        Robin 
      
                        Do Not Archive 
      
                         
      
                        From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin
                        Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM
                        To: rv-list@matronics.com
                        Subject: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      
                          If you do and are interested in flying at higher 
      altitudes safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier 
      on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we 
      can get these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great 
      price. 
      
      
                              I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and 
      these Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.  
      
      
                               Email me at:  bisonmountain@gmail.com  to get 
      on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  
      http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of other 
      cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.
      
      
                              Kurt
      
                              www.bisonmountainbags.com
      
                              bisonmountain@gmail.com
      
      
                             
      
      
          
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| Subject:  | Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? | 
      
      
      Bert,
       The real value of a Pulse Oximeter is that it allows you to reduce the amount
      of oxygen flowing to the minimum needed for complete oxygenation of your blood.
      That way your tanks will last longer.
       FYI, if you are over 40, best start using oxygen above 8,000 feet.
      Charlie Kuss
      
      
      --- On Tue, 9/16/08, bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      > From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
      > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:29 PM
      > +
      > scott: Thanks but you did not answer my question, I
      > know what you said...
      > but why to have a machine to tell you that you need
      > Oxigen....It has been written
      > for decades, and that is a fact, that one must use Oxigen
      > 10,000 and above, but
      > but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen,
      > even at 5,000 regardless,
      > it will refresh you and make you more alert on those long
      > trips....
      > 
      > So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,,
      > yes you need Oxigen,,then
      > what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?
      > 
      > what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,,
      > you are at 14,000
      > now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,
      > nothing of this make sense to me...
      > 
      > Bert
      > 
      > 
      > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, scott bilinski
      > <rv8a2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
      > 
      > From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:27 PM
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Different people react differently to altitude. I know one
      > woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are
      > other people who are in really good shape and they dont need
      > Ox until 11~12k. 
      > 
      > 
      > Scott 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:52:37 AM
      > Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > I would like to know the reason and benefit of this
      > tool.....? Why?
      > If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common
      > sense, is to use Oxigen
      > no? I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood
      > needs more Oxigen..
      > 
      > Another expense for what... Am I missing something here??
      > 
      > Bert
      > 
      > --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks
      > <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote:
      > 
      > From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
      > Subject: RE: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:55 PM
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I
      > purchased the Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group
      > required. Zero sales tax, $10.00 shipping. 
      > 
      > Robin 
      > Do Not Archive 
      >  
      > 
      > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K
      > Klewin
      > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM
      > To: rv-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV-List: Fly above 8000 ft ?
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes
      > safely I have been offered a great discount from our
      > supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters. If enough folks
      > (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.
      > Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse
      > Oximeters are a great safety tool. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Email me at: bisonmountain@gmail.com to get on the
      > list. Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:
      > http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html We
      > have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to
      > visit. Thanks.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Kurt
      > 
      > www.bisonmountainbags.com
      > 
      > bisonmountain@gmail.com
      > 
      > 
      >  
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| Subject:  | Re: paint shaker recommendation | 
      
      
      John Bright wrote:
      > Can anyone recommend a paint shaker for quart and gallon cans?
      Harbor freight. Cheap and effective ..... runs on air.
      Linn
      do not archive
      >  
      > Thanks,
      >
      > John Bright
      > o:757-864-2305
      > h:757-874-0861
      > c:757-812-1909
      > http://www.facebook.com/people/John_Bright/1450601073
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      
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      I think the original poster stated that nuts WITH cotter pins had 
      loosened.  How does this happen?  Isn't that what cotter pins are 
      supposed to prevent?  If not, they're just extra weight I can eliminate 
      on my -4 :)
      
      Scott
      
      
      scott bilinski wrote:
      
      >
      >I have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the exhaust
      bolts, I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold". Then the valve
      covers started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal". Well the screws were so
      loose I could remove some with my fingers, now they have been tightened and the
      leaks have stopped and have not come loose again since. The last couple bolts
      I found loose were to the case halves! From what I have read about others and
      their loose hardware experiences, the next upcoming annual just months away,
      ALL fasteners will be checked over the entire aircraft.
      >
      > Scott 
      >
      >
      >      
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      -- 
      Scott
      http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
      Flying Corben Junior Ace - Building RV-4
      Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
      
      
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      If your cotter pinned bolts are loose, two things to check  were they really 
      torqued  correctly the first time or did the Bolts STRECH.  If they did, 
      replace them.
      
      
      In a message dated 9/16/2008 2:30:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
      acepilot@bloomer.net writes:
      
      -->  RV-List message posted by: Scott <acepilot@bloomer.net>
      
      I think  the original poster stated that nuts WITH cotter pins had 
      loosened.   How does this happen?  Isn't that what cotter pins are 
      supposed to  prevent?  If not, they're just extra weight I can eliminate 
      on my -4  :)
      
      Scott
      
      
      scott bilinski wrote:
      
      >--> RV-List  message posted by: scott bilinski <rv8a2001@yahoo.com>
      >
      >I  have found all sorts of loose bolts on the engine. First it was the 
      exhaust  bolts, I had to tighten them 3 times before they would "hold". Then the
      
      valve  covers started leaking, nothing new, this is "normal". Well the screws 
      were so  loose I could remove some with my fingers, now they have been tightened
      
      and  the leaks have stopped and have not come loose again since. The last 
      couple  bolts I found loose were to the case halves! From what I have read about
      
      others and their loose hardware experiences, the next upcoming annual just  
      months away, ALL fasteners will be checked over the entire  aircraft.
      >
      > Scott 
      >
      >
      >       
      >
      >
      >   
      >
      
      -- 
      Scott
      http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
      Flying  Corben Junior Ace - Building RV-4
      Gotta Fly or Gonna  Die
      
      
      **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, 
      plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.      
      (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: paint shaker recommendation | 
      
      I second that recommendation.  I've had mine for years.
      
      Tim
      
      -- 
      Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
      RV-6A N47TD -- 1000 hrs
      RV-10 #40059 under construction
      
      
      linn Walters wrote:
      >
      > John Bright wrote:
      >> Can anyone recommend a paint shaker for quart and gallon cans?
      > Harbor freight. Cheap and effective ..... runs on air.
      > Linn
      > do not archive
      >>  
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >> John Bright
      >> o:757-864-2305
      >> h:757-874-0861
      >> c:757-812-1909
      >> http://www.facebook.com/people/John_Bright/1450601073
      >>
      >> *
      >>
      >>
      >> *
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >
      >
      > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
      >
      >   
      
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| Subject:  | Blood Oxygen Levels | 
      
      I have lived at about 7,500-ft for over 20-years now so I am probably a 
      bit more adapted to low levels of Ox then 'flat-landers' but I thought 
      to add one more data point to your discussion regarding oxygen use.
      
      Tomorrow I will leave home airport, and climb steadily until 13,500 to 
      cross the continental divide in Colorado....after crossing at Monarch 
      Pass I will descend to 12,500 to cruise altitude for another 45-minutes 
      to my destination.
      
      Enroute at various altitudes I will use my rather expensive blood oxygen 
      meter to see what levels of ox I have in my system. At home I usually 
      see 86-89 % saturation. 
      
      I do have oxygen but will not be using it tomorrow...I've made this 
      trips many times so there's nothing new going on here. I'll post results 
      just to add to the discussion.
      
      John
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Blood Oxygen Levels | 
      
      
      John,
      
      
      Us flat landers in the medical community would be ordering you home oxygen and
      likely portable oxygen if your pulse oximetry showed that low.  Normal for most
      adults is 92% or better.  If you are indeed that low on oxygen (adapted or not)
      think of what your brain is deprived of?  Oxygen!!  Low oxygen equates to
      decreased level of consciousness, slowed brain function, and even possible damage
      to the brain cells.  BTW, this low of pulse ox is usually seen in those with
      emphysema or COPD.  Also, don't let your AME know this, he'll ground you in
      a heartbeat.  Just my half of a nickels worth of input.
      
      Barry Chapman, Family Nurse Practitioner
      RV-9A wings in progress
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: John Fasching <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:07:49 PM
      Subject: RV-List: Blood Oxygen Levels
      
      
      I have lived at about 7,500-ft for over 20-years 
      now so I am probably a bit more adapted to low levels of Ox then 'flat-landers'
      
      but I thought to add one more data point to your discussion regarding oxygen 
      use.
      
      Tomorrow I will leave home airport, and climb 
      steadily until 13,500 to cross the continental divide in Colorado....after 
      crossing at Monarch Pass I will descend to 12,500 to cruise altitude for 
      another 45-minutes to my destination.
      
      Enroute at various altitudes I will use my rather 
      expensive blood oxygen meter to see what levels of ox I have in my system. At 
      home I usually see 86-89 % saturation. 
      
      I do have oxygen but will not be using it 
      tomorrow...I've made this trips many times so there's nothing new going on here.
      
      I'll post results just to add to the discussion.
      
      John
      
      
       Thank you for your generous support!
      
      
      Hey John,
      
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| Subject:  | Blood Oxygen Levels | 
      
      
      John:
      
      Someone like me that lives near sea level=2C I would be falling asleep at t
      hat low of O2 level.  I have O2 and one of the old expensive blood oxygen m
      eters.  I need O2 when flying for more than 2 hours above 9=2C500.
      
      Gary A. Sobek
      
      "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 
      
      2=2C159 + Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA 
      
      From: n1cxo320@salidaco.com
      Subject: RV-List: Blood Oxygen Levels
      
      
      I have lived at about 7=2C500-ft for over 20-years 
      now so I am probably a bit more adapted to low levels of Ox then 'flat-land
      ers' 
      but I thought to add one more data point to your discussion regarding oxyge
      n 
      use.
      
      Tomorrow I will leave home airport=2C and climb 
      steadily until 13=2C500 to cross the continental divide in Colorado....afte
      r 
      crossing at Monarch Pass I will descend to 12=2C500 to cruise altitude for
      
      another 45-minutes to my destination.
      
      Enroute at various altitudes I will use my rather 
      expensive blood oxygen meter to see what levels of ox I have in my system. 
      At 
      home I usually see 86-89 % saturation. 
      
      I do have oxygen but will not be using it 
      tomorrow...I've made this trips many times so there's nothing new going on 
      here. 
      I'll post results just to add to the discussion.
      
      John
      
      
      _________________________________________________________________
      See how Windows Mobile brings your life together=97at home=2C work=2C or on
       the go.
      
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      This is a phenomenon I have experienced on my RV-6A and also by other RV  
      builders I know.  It was actually brought to my attention by another  builder.
      
      (Thanks, Charlie Bravo!)  After some hours in operation,  engine vibration & 
      flight loads will tend to compress the stack of materials  at the engine mount
      
      bolt locations on the firewall, resulting in a natural  loosening of the nuts.
      
      Each annual condition inspection, this is an item I  religiously check and 
      address as necessary.
      
      Mark Phillips - RV-6A "Mojo" 500 hours and warming up for the next  C.I....
      
      
      **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, 
      plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.      
      (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)
      
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| Subject:  | paint shaker recommendation | 
      
      Strap it to the top of your Lycoming? :-)
          Hey, somebody had to say it!
      
      Do not archive
      
      Todd    (I can't help myself sometimes)
      Mazda 13B RV9a
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Bright
        Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:44 AM
        To: rv-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RV-List: paint shaker recommendation
      
      
        Can anyone recommend a paint shaker for quart and gallon cans?
      
        Thanks,
      
      
 
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