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1. 05:05 AM - Re: Efis question (Ron Lee)
2. 05:35 AM - Re: Efis question (linn Walters)
3. 06:20 AM - Regaurding radio noise (Charles Heathco)
4. 06:38 AM - Air Box Mounting Plate (ferrerg@comcast.net)
5. 06:46 AM - Re: Air Box Mounting Plate (Dale Ensing)
6. 06:56 AM - Re: Air Box Mounting Plate (linn Walters)
7. 07:19 AM - Re: Air Box Mounting Plate (Michael Kraus)
8. 07:26 AM - tailwheel nut torque (Frazier, Vincent A)
9. 08:14 AM - Re: Efis question (Bruce Gray)
10. 08:29 AM - Wheel pants too low? (George Inman 204 287 8334)
11. 08:55 AM - EFIS backup (Ed Holyoke)
12. 09:35 AM - Re: Wheel pants too low? (Bob)
13. 10:34 AM - Instrument Refresher Simulator and Joy Stick for sale (Richard Dudley)
14. 10:39 AM - Re: Wheel pants too low? (HCRV6@comcast.net)
15. 12:32 PM - Re: Radio Problem (bert murillo)
16. 12:34 PM - Re: Efis question (bert murillo)
17. 12:59 PM - Re: Efis question (Bruce Gray)
18. 01:10 PM - Re: Wheel pants too low? (Richard McBride)
19. 01:51 PM - Re: Oil leak (Paul Rice)
20. 02:07 PM - Re: Efis question (Neal George)
21. 02:47 PM - Re: Air Box Mounting Plate (Carl Froehlich)
22. 05:04 PM - Re: Wheel pants too low? (John Danielson)
23. 05:47 PM - Re: Wheel pants too low? (rveighta)
24. 06:03 PM - Re: Efis question (FASTPILOTRV8@aol.com)
25. 06:34 PM - Re: Efis question (FASTPILOTRV8@AOL.COM)
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Subject: | Re: Efis question |
Tim, look at accident reports and you will find that 75% or so of the
fatalities are due to pilot error.
You have running out of fuel.
You see flying into IMC when the pilot is not instrument rated but had
been trained on partial panel.
The Seaside OR crash appears to be a guy of unknown (to me)
qualifications taking off into IMC.
There was a plane that took off out of Steamboat Springs CO or close who
impacted terrain.
The weather was not suitable for this VFR pilot to fly and possibly not
for any plane not certified
for flight into icing conditions. I have not seen the report but would
guess that it was gross
pilot error. A family killed because of pilot stupidity.
You see all kinds of Darwinistic behavior. Reality. A gizmo "may" make
up for other system
or human failures. Better judgement and training are perhaps better.
The original poster needs to objectively assess his training, abilities
and judgement and plan
accordingly. Leaving out a alternate attitude reference that works for
him may get him killed.
Adding a "gizmo" might save him.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: Timothy E. Cone
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
I'm really not trying to be snide, but if they aren't competent at
partial panel, what in the heck are they doing penetrating IMC????
Betting their life that everything works? I'll take the odds in Vegas
over that bet, any day.
Training is a much better investment than ANY gizmo.
Tim Cone
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Do you think that most people are competent at partial panel in IMC?
The oroginal poster suggested that panel space was an issue which I
find
hard to believe.
Perhaps a good wing-leveler/autopilot might save you in you lost
your
only attitude source.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: Timothy E. Cone
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Since when is a loss of ADI or artificial horizon an automatic
trip to the morgue?
Don't they teach "partial panel" anymore?
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Subject: | Re: Efis question |
I thought I didn't have a dog in this fight, but I do. I have lost
friends, and friends of friends, due to stupid pilot tricks. Rarely
does the airframe let us down. That leaves two things .... the pilot,
and his source of information. There are times when no amount of
information will save the pilots bacon ...... let's face it ..... we all
do the stupid pilot tricks ..... and an old pilot is one that survives
all of his (or her) stupid mistakes. So far I'm a survivor.
Now, back to my dog. I'm going to install the Odyssey panel
(http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html)
and am going through the process of choosing how I want to populate the
rest of the panel with backup instruments for IFR. By the time I
purchase 2.5" gauges I can almost buy a small efis system, independent
of the Odyssey. My problem is .... I've never flown behind a glass
panel ..... and don't have an IFR ticket (yet). My partner has/does
both ..... but for him there is a pilot and a copy of the left seat
panel on the right side. I've spent a fair amount of time pondering the
question of which path to go ..... and I've been collecting a few
pictures of others panel ..... which just turns my thought processes
into a headache. But I ramble ..... my question is this: What did you
choose for your IFR backup capability, and why did you go that
route???? Would you go that same route today????
Linn
do not archive
Ron Lee wrote:
> Tim, look at accident reports and you will find that 75% or so of the
> fatalities are due to pilot error.
>
> You have running out of fuel.
>
> You see flying into IMC when the pilot is not instrument rated but had
> been trained on partial panel.
>
> The Seaside OR crash appears to be a guy of unknown (to me)
> qualifications taking off into IMC.
>
> There was a plane that took off out of Steamboat Springs CO or close
> who impacted terrain.
> The weather was not suitable for this VFR pilot to fly and possibly
> not for any plane not certified
> for flight into icing conditions. I have not seen the report but
> would guess that it was gross
> pilot error. A family killed because of pilot stupidity.
>
> You see all kinds of Darwinistic behavior. Reality. A gizmo "may"
> make up for other system
> or human failures. Better judgement and training are perhaps better.
>
> The original poster needs to objectively assess his training,
> abilities and judgement and plan
> accordingly. Leaving out a alternate attitude reference that works
> for him may get him killed.
> Adding a "gizmo" might save him.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Timothy E. Cone <mailto:tcone1@comcast.net>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>
> I'm really not trying to be snide, but if they aren't competent at
> partial panel, what in the heck are they doing penetrating
> IMC???? Betting their life that everything works? I'll take the
> odds in Vegas over that bet, any day.
>
> Training is a much better investment than ANY gizmo.
>
> Tim Cone
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ron Lee <mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 9:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>
> Do you think that most people are competent at partial panel
> in IMC?
>
> The oroginal poster suggested that panel space was an issue
> which I find
> hard to believe.
>
> Perhaps a good wing-leveler/autopilot might save you in you
> lost your
> only attitude source.
>
> Ron Lee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Timothy E. Cone <mailto:tcone1@comcast.net>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 9:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>
> Since when is a loss of ADI or artificial horizon an
> automatic trip to the morgue?
>
> Don't they teach "partial panel" anymore?
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Regaurding radio noise |
This may not apply here but I had loud static that developed a while
back that I couldnt find problem, then by accident I turned the vol
contr down on
Nav side (KX124) and noise gone. havent fixed as I never use Nav side.
Also couple weeks ago I got a loude noise in earph as soon as I started
take off, traced to Icom, problem turned out to be girlfriend had hung
her head set on my 296 on panel and when I took it off and hung it on
back hook noise gone. Charlie heaqthco
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Subject: | Air Box Mounting Plate |
The last two times that I did my conditional inspection I found that my air box
mounting aluminum plate was cracked.
The first time I made a new mounting plate and tried to eliminate as many stress
risers as I could. But it cracked again.
This time I'm having a machine shop cut the rear hole behind the carburetor air
intake (needed to clear the rear part of the carburetor) with a water cutting
tool.
I'm hoping that a smoother cut will prevent stress risers.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may prevent the cracking?
--
Gabe A Ferrer
RV6 N2GX
South Florida's Treasure Coast
email: ferrerg@comcast.net
cell: 561 758 8894
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<DIV>The last two times that I did my conditional inspection I found that my
air box mounting aluminum plate was cracked.</DIV>
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<DIV>The first time I made a new mounting plate and tried to eliminate as many
stress risers as I could. But it cracked again.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This time I'm having a machine shop cut the rear hole behind the carburetor
air intake (needed to clear the rear part of the carburetor) with
a water cutting tool.</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm hoping that a smoother cut will prevent stress risers.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Does anyone have any suggestions that may prevent the cracking?</DIV>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Gabe A Ferrer <BR>RV6 N2GX <BR>South Florida's
Treasure Coast <BR>email: ferrerg@comcast.net <BR>cell: 561 758 8894</DIV>
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Subject: | Re: Air Box Mounting Plate |
Do you have adequate flexibility/movement at the airbox snout/cowl inlet se
al to minimize stress on the airbox plate when there is movement of the eng
ine?
Dale Ensing
----- Original Message -----
From: ferrerg@comcast.net
To: RV List
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:37 AM
Subject: RV-List: Air Box Mounting Plate
The last two times that I did my conditional inspection I found that my a
ir box mounting aluminum plate was cracked.
The first time I made a new mounting plate and tried to eliminate as many
stress risers as I could. But it cracked again.
This time I'm having a machine shop cut the rear hole behind the carburet
or air intake (needed to clear the rear part of the carburetor) with a wate
r cutting tool.
I'm hoping that a smoother cut will prevent stress risers.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may prevent the cracking?
--
Gabe A Ferrer
RV6 N2GX
South Florida's Treasure Coast
email: ferrerg@comcast.net
cell: 561 758 8894
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Subject: | Re: Air Box Mounting Plate |
ferrerg@comcast.net wrote:
> The last two times that I did my conditional inspection I found
> that my air box mounting aluminum plate was cracked.
>
> The first time I made a new mounting plate and tried to eliminate as
> many stress risers as I could. But it cracked again.
>
> This time I'm having a machine shop cut the rear hole behind
> the carburetor air intake (needed to clear the rear part of
> the carburetor) with a water cutting tool.
>
> I'm hoping that a smoother cut will prevent stress risers.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions that may prevent the cracking?
You might try getting the prop dynamically balanced to reduce the
vibration. Water cutting will still leave small knicks that will
(could?) start to crack. A fine file followed by emery cloth to make it
smooth is good prevention.
Linn
do not archive
> --
> Gabe A Ferrer
> RV6 N2GX
> South Florida's Treasure Coast
> email: ferrerg@comcast.net
> cell: 561 758 8894
> *
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Air Box Mounting Plate |
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Subject: | tailwheel nut torque |
SNIP ********
Subject: RV-List: Tail wheel bolt torque
What torque do you use for the 1/2 inch nut that holds the tailwheel
fork on the spring?
The torque for 1/2 in. bolts is 480 inch lbs ,but when it is this tight
the fork is hard to turn in the mount.
George H. Inman
SNIP**************
Ideally you should be able to tighten that nut normally, i.e. all the
way down. I don't believe that putting 40 foot pounds (480 inch pounds)
is really necessary... hand tightening normally is OK if your
self-locking nut is in good shape.
However, if you tighten the nut and it puts the mechanism in a bind,
that isn't good. What is happening is that your socket is too tall for
your fork. When you tighten the big nut, it binds everything. You can
remedy this by removing a few thousandths of an inch of the socket
height with a file, belt sander, etc. Obviously, you want to keep it
relatively square while you're doing this. You can remove material from
either end as it shouldn't be very much at all.
An alternate fix for the "too tall, too tight" might be to drill the
threaded portion of the fork to accept a cotter pin. Then you could
leave the (castle) nut a little bit loose and not worry about it
departing.
If this doesn't make sense, feel free to call me in my office at
812-464-1839 Mon-Thur from 8-4 CST. I can't return long distance calls
from that number, so if I don't answer please try again later or send an
e-mail.
Vince Frazier - the tailwheel guy, 150+ sold, in stock and ready to ship
always
Screaming Eagle Graphics and Accessories
3965 Caborn Road
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839
http://www.vincesrocket.com/products.htm
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OK, here's my list for backup instruments.
Attitude gyro - preferably driven by a different power source - vacuum.
ASI, Altimeter.
Handheld com and GPS.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
I thought I didn't have a dog in this fight, but I do. I have lost
friends, and friends of friends, due to stupid pilot tricks. Rarely
does the airframe let us down. That leaves two things .... the pilot,
and his source of information. There are times when no amount of
information will save the pilots bacon ...... let's face it ..... we all
do the stupid pilot tricks ..... and an old pilot is one that survives
all of his (or her) stupid mistakes. So far I'm a survivor.
Now, back to my dog. I'm going to install the Odyssey panel
(http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html)
and am going through the process of choosing how I want to populate the
rest of the panel with backup instruments for IFR. By the time I
purchase 2.5" gauges I can almost buy a small efis system, independent
of the Odyssey. My problem is .... I've never flown behind a glass
panel ..... and don't have an IFR ticket (yet). My partner has/does
both ..... but for him there is a pilot and a copy of the left seat
panel on the right side. I've spent a fair amount of time pondering the
question of which path to go ..... and I've been collecting a few
pictures of others panel ..... which just turns my thought processes
into a headache. But I ramble ..... my question is this: What did you
choose for your IFR backup capability, and why did you go that
route???? Would you go that same route today????
Linn
do not archive
Ron Lee wrote:
> Tim, look at accident reports and you will find that 75% or so of the
> fatalities are due to pilot error.
>
> You have running out of fuel.
>
> You see flying into IMC when the pilot is not instrument rated but had
> been trained on partial panel.
>
> The Seaside OR crash appears to be a guy of unknown (to me)
> qualifications taking off into IMC.
>
> There was a plane that took off out of Steamboat Springs CO or close
> who impacted terrain.
> The weather was not suitable for this VFR pilot to fly and possibly
> not for any plane not certified
> for flight into icing conditions. I have not seen the report but
> would guess that it was gross
> pilot error. A family killed because of pilot stupidity.
>
> You see all kinds of Darwinistic behavior. Reality. A gizmo "may"
> make up for other system
> or human failures. Better judgement and training are perhaps better.
>
> The original poster needs to objectively assess his training,
> abilities and judgement and plan
> accordingly. Leaving out a alternate attitude reference that works
> for him may get him killed.
> Adding a "gizmo" might save him.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Timothy E. Cone <mailto:tcone1@comcast.net>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>
> I'm really not trying to be snide, but if they aren't competent at
> partial panel, what in the heck are they doing penetrating
> IMC???? Betting their life that everything works? I'll take the
> odds in Vegas over that bet, any day.
>
> Training is a much better investment than ANY gizmo.
>
> Tim Cone
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ron Lee <mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 9:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>
> Do you think that most people are competent at partial panel
> in IMC?
>
> The oroginal poster suggested that panel space was an issue
> which I find
> hard to believe.
>
> Perhaps a good wing-leveler/autopilot might save you in you
> lost your
> only attitude source.
>
> Ron Lee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Timothy E. Cone <mailto:tcone1@comcast.net>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 9:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>
> Since when is a loss of ADI or artificial horizon an
> automatic trip to the morgue?
>
> Don't they teach "partial panel" anymore?
>
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Wheel pants too low? |
I installed the wheel pants on my RV-8
per Van's directions,but I think they may be too low.
I cannot get a 2X4 underneath the back for a wheel chock
when the plane is down on the tail.
I will be using a grass strip so have concerns.Do others have
their wheel pants this low?
--
George H. Inman
ghinman@mts.net
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Linn,
My money's on an independent wing leveler/autopilot. Independent so the
failure of the EFIS doesn't take it out. Most of them have some sort of
turn indicator display on them. I tend to turn on the AP when the
visibility is not so good and monitor the EFIS (Dynon D-10). It cuts
down the workload and gives time to think, if you need it. My next plane
will have a 2 axis autopilot.
I wouldn't be without backup steam gauges for airspeed and altimeter,
either.
A backup GPS would be good, too, especially if is only displayed on the
EFIS.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
linn Walters wrote:
>
> I thought I didn't have a dog in this fight, but I do. I have lost
> friends, and friends of friends, due to stupid pilot tricks. Rarely
> does the airframe let us down. That leaves two things .... the pilot,
> and his source of information. There are times when no amount of
> information will save the pilots bacon ...... let's face it ..... we
> all do the stupid pilot tricks ..... and an old pilot is one that
> survives all of his (or her) stupid mistakes. So far I'm a survivor.
>
> Now, back to my dog. I'm going to install the Odyssey panel
> (http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html)
> and am going through the process of choosing how I want to populate
> the rest of the panel with backup instruments for IFR. By the time I
> purchase 2.5" gauges I can almost buy a small efis system, independent
> of the Odyssey. My problem is .... I've never flown behind a glass
> panel ..... and don't have an IFR ticket (yet). My partner has/does
> both ..... but for him there is a pilot and a copy of the left seat
> panel on the right side. I've spent a fair amount of time pondering
> the question of which path to go ..... and I've been collecting a few
> pictures of others panel ..... which just turns my thought processes
> into a headache. But I ramble ..... my question is this: What did
> you choose for your IFR backup capability, and why did you go that
> route???? Would you go that same route today????
> Linn
> do not archive
>
> Ron Lee wrote:
>> Tim, look at accident reports and you will find that 75% or so of the
>> fatalities are due to pilot error.
>> You have running out of fuel.
>> You see flying into IMC when the pilot is not instrument rated but
>> had been trained on partial panel.
>>
>> The Seaside OR crash appears to be a guy of unknown (to me)
>> qualifications taking off into IMC.
>>
>> There was a plane that took off out of Steamboat Springs CO or close
>> who impacted terrain.
>> The weather was not suitable for this VFR pilot to fly and possibly
>> not for any plane not certified
>> for flight into icing conditions. I have not seen the report but
>> would guess that it was gross
>> pilot error. A family killed because of pilot stupidity.
>>
>> You see all kinds of Darwinistic behavior. Reality. A gizmo "may"
>> make up for other system
>> or human failures. Better judgement and training are perhaps better.
>>
>> The original poster needs to objectively assess his training,
>> abilities and judgement and plan
>> accordingly. Leaving out a alternate attitude reference that works
>> for him may get him killed.
>> Adding a "gizmo" might save him.
>>
>> Ron Lee
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Timothy E. Cone <mailto:tcone1@comcast.net>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>>
>> I'm really not trying to be snide, but if they aren't competent at
>> partial panel, what in the heck are they doing penetrating
>> IMC???? Betting their life that everything works? I'll take the
>> odds in Vegas over that bet, any day.
>> Training is a much better investment than ANY gizmo.
>> Tim Cone
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Ron Lee <mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 9:27 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>>
>> Do you think that most people are competent at partial panel
>> in IMC?
>> The oroginal poster suggested that panel space was
>> an issue
>> which I find
>> hard to believe.
>> Perhaps a good wing-leveler/autopilot might save you
>> in you
>> lost your
>> only attitude source.
>> Ron Lee
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Timothy E. Cone <mailto:tcone1@comcast.net>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2008 9:48 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Efis question
>>
>> Since when is a loss of ADI or artificial horizon an
>> automatic trip to the morgue?
>> Don't they teach "partial panel" anymore?
>>
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Subject: | Re: Wheel pants too low? |
Sounds about right to me, I can not get a 2X4 under the wheel pant
either. I use 1/2" aluminum angle as a wheel chock. Even that is a tight fit!
Bob
RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"
At 10:29 AM 9/23/08, you wrote:
>
>
> I installed the wheel pants on my RV-8
>per Van's directions,but I think they may be too low.
> I cannot get a 2X4 underneath the back for a wheel chock
>when the plane is down on the tail.
> I will be using a grass strip so have concerns.Do others have
>their wheel pants this low?
>
>--
>
>George H. Inman
>ghinman@mts.net
>
>
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Subject: | Instrument Refresher Simulator and Joy Stick for sale |
I no longer have need for these.
Software and Pilot's Operating Handbook. Instrument Refresher Simulator
by ASA Interactive Products. Like new. Requires joystick. I'll sell for
$40. It cost me $74. See attachment.
High end joystick. By CH Products Flight Simulator and Gaming Gear.
Called "Flightstick". USB interface to computer. Recommended for IPC
Instrument Refresher Simulator. In original box with software. Like new.
I'll sell the joystick for $50.It cost me $85.
For details, see: http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/4128
RHDudley
RV-6A flying and for sale
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Subject: | Re: Wheel pants too low? |
I installed my RV-6's wheel pants also per Van's instructions and cannot get any
standard chocks under them. I made some "U" shaped chocks from 3/4 PVC pipe
and elbows that work great and weigh next to nothing.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, flying - 516 hours
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
>
>
>
> I installed the wheel pants on my RV-8
> per Van's directions,but I think they may be too low.
> I cannot get a 2X4 underneath the back for a wheel chock
> when the plane is down on the tail.
> I will be using a grass strip so have concerns.Do others have
> their wheel pants this low?
>
> --
>
> George H. Inman
> ghinman@mts.net
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Radio Problem |
Walt: I have kind of same problem, untill I discovered it was the way I con
trol
the Intercom...I had it too much to the noise side....play with the Interco
m,
next time you are flying, ( ofcurse, in non congested area OK?)
It worked for me now no more noise on radio.....
-
robert
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote:
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Radio Problem
Walt ... you could run this by the Aeroelectric List at--- aeroelectr
ic-list@matronics.com---- and Bob Nuckolls could suggest some thing
s to try.
Bob is very good at finding the mysteries of black art.- Let us know what
happens.- Good luck, Jerry-
> Guys, I have an Apollo SL-30 in my RV-8 which has a rather
> unique (to me anyway) problem; on the ground, even with the
> engine running at high rpm, the radio works flawlessly, in the
> air it's a different story. As soon as I take off, a loud
> background noise begins which makes receiving transmissions
> nearly impossible. Usually, sometime during the flight, this
> noise goes away and the reception is crystal clear!
>
> I have a belly mounted Comant-bent whip antenna. Coax
> connections are tight. Any ideas of what the problem is?
>
> Walt Shipley
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Subject: | Re: Efis question |
-Quesstion again,:- what are people that have installed the EFIS,- do
...
Robert
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty@tds.ne
t> wrote:
From: Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty@tds.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Ron,- That is- a great point.
-
Jim
RV9a building - MN
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS for spatial orientation
and you lose it then most likely within a minute or two you will enter
uncontrolled flight and will soon be dead.
-
People...think about what you are doing.
-
Ron Lee
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Just look at the panel of any small certified EFIS equipped airplane.
They
all have a steam gage attitude gyro, altimeter, and ASI. Of course you
could
install one of those cute single instrument electronic standby gyros
they
install on the big iron, about 20k I think.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bert murillo
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Quesstion again,: what are people that have installed the EFIS, do...
Robert
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty
<jfogarty@tds.net> wrote:
From: Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty@tds.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Ron, That is a great point.
Jim
RV9a building - MN
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee <mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS for spatial orientation
and you lose it then most likely within a minute or two you will enter
uncontrolled flight and will soon be dead.
People...think about what you are doing.
Ron Lee
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Subject: | Re: Wheel pants too low? |
George,
My -8 wheel pants are the same way. No way will a 2x4 fit behind the
tire. Mine seem to be lower in the back compared to most others I've
looked at. I have flown on grass strips many, many times with no
problem. The only issue I have is getting into hangars that have steel
angle installed on the floor as a door track. The back of my pant can't
clear these tracks without putting down some type of ramp. I've scarred
the bottom rear of my pants numerous times.
Rick McBride
----- Original Message -----
From: George Inman 204 287 8334<mailto:ghinman@mts.net>
To: RV-list matronics<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: RV-List: Wheel pants too low?
<ghinman@mts.net<mailto:ghinman@mts.net>>
I installed the wheel pants on my RV-8
per Van's directions,but I think they may be too low.
I cannot get a 2X4 underneath the back for a wheel
chock
when the plane is down on the tail.
I will be using a grass strip so have concerns.Do others
have
their wheel pants this low?
--
George H. Inman
ghinman@mts.net<mailto:ghinman@mts.net>
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Hey John=2C
I have a TMX IO360 and have the same problem. I already replaced the pump o
nce=2C and the new one is doing the same thing. I've retorqued the screws a
nd bolts=2C but that has not solved the problem. I have to do some researc
h to find a differend pump as well as call Mattituck and talk to them about
it. Mine is also not leaking enough that I worry about it in flight=2C bu
t I do have to clean the belly a lot. Let us know how you make out.
From: december29@bellsouth.netTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: Oi
l leakDate: Sat=2C 20 Sep 2008 14:43:40 -0400
Hi all=2C
Searched the archives but have a "new" oil leak location. Anyone had one
on the mechanical fuel pump? I have a total of 58 hours on the pump and it
appears that the oil is wicking out of the top of the stainless screws tha
t sandwich the whole pump together. First off=2C are they supposed to be s
afety wired=2C because mine are not (came from the "factory" that way). The
aft face of the engine that the pump mounts to is dry.
It is not a big leak=2C but one just the same. I will try the solvent an
d Dr. Scholl's to confirm. But anyone with something like this?
Very lubed=2C
John
N802RJ
"Rockin' Robin"
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Robert -
I installed AFS-3500 & -3400 (both with internal backup batteries), TruTrak
ADI with internal GPS and backup battery, TruTrak Digiflight VSGV, round
ASI, round Altimeter.
But I'm not flying yet.
Neal
RV-7 N8ZG
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bert murillo
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Quesstion again,: what are people that have installed the EFIS, do...
Robert
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty
<jfogarty@tds.net> wrote:
From: Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty@tds.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Ron, That is a great point.
Jim
RV9a building - MN
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee <mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS for spatial orientation
and you lose it then most likely within a minute or two you will enter
uncontrolled flight and will soon be dead.
People...think about what you are doing.
Ron Lee
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?RV-List
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Subject: | Air Box Mounting Plate |
I had two plates crack on my 8A. I modified the cowl intake (more forward)
and have a scat hose connection to the airbox. I assumed the added weight
of the hose was causing the problem.
I made a plate out of .032" stainless steel - problem solved.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (450 hrs)
RV-10 (fuselage)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Air Box Mounting Plate
We made our second one out of 0.090 material....
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From: ferrerg@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:37 AM
Subject: RV-List: Air Box Mounting Plate
The last two times that I did my conditional inspection I found that my air
box mounting aluminum plate was cracked.
The first time I made a new mounting plate and tried to eliminate as many
stress risers as I could. But it cracked again.
This time I'm having a machine shop cut the rear hole behind the carburetor
air intake (needed to clear the rear part of the carburetor) with a water
cutting tool.
I'm hoping that a smoother cut will prevent stress risers.
Does anyone have any suggestions that may prevent the cracking?
--
Gabe A Ferrer
RV6 N2GX
South Florida's Treasure Coast
email: ferrerg@comcast.net
cell: 561 758 8894
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Subject: | Wheel pants too low? |
My wheel pants also had the same problem, couldn=92t clear the angle on
the
bottom of my door.
I ended up always backing my plane in by lifting the tail to clear.
When I finally wore the original tire out, I replaced them with retreads
and
the tires just happen to be taller by =BD=94 to =BE=94.
This allowed the rear of the wheel pants to clear the angle.
John L. Danielson
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard McBride
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Wheel pants too low?
George,
My -8 wheel pants are the same way. No way will a 2x4 fit behind the
tire.
Mine seem to be lower in the back compared to most others I've looked
at. I
have flown on grass strips many, many times with no problem. The only
issue
I have is getting into hangars that have steel angle installed on the
floor
as a door track. The back of my pant can't clear these tracks without
putting down some type of ramp. I've scarred the bottom rear of my
pants
numerous times.
Rick McBride
----- Original Message -----
From: George <mailto:ghinman@mts.net> Inman 204 287 8334
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: RV-List: Wheel pants too low?
<ghinman@mts.net>
I installed the wheel pants on my RV-8
per Van's directions,but I think they may be too low.
I cannot get a 2X4 underneath the back for a wheel chock
when the plane is down on the tail.
I will be using a grass strip so have concerns.Do others
have
their wheel pants this low?
--
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Subject: | Re: Wheel pants too low? |
This seems to be a universal problem with the Van's tail draggers. My 8 is the
same; I taxi across about 100' of grass to get to my airpark's runway and I get
a collection of grass inside the rear half of the pants everytime.
Walt Shipley
-----Original Message-----
>From: HCRV6@comcast.net
>Sent: Sep 23, 2008 1:38 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Wheel pants too low?
>
>
>I installed my RV-6's wheel pants also per Van's instructions and cannot get any
standard chocks under them. I made some "U" shaped chocks from 3/4 PVC pipe
and elbows that work great and weigh next to nothing.
>
>--
>Harry Crosby
>RV-6 N16CX, flying - 516 hours
>
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>From: George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
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>> I installed the wheel pants on my RV-8
>> per Van's directions,but I think they may be too low.
>> I cannot get a 2X4 underneath the back for a wheel chock
>> when the plane is down on the tail.
>> I will be using a grass strip so have concerns.Do others have
>> their wheel pants this low?
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>> --
>>
>> George H. Inman
>> ghinman@mts.net
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Subject: | Re: Efis question |
Robert
I am flying my RV and I do agree with Neal's statement below. I do have a
2 1/4 TruTrak ADI with a backup battery plus its own GPS and it works great
.
It is also nice to have a cross check to my OP Technologies EFIS GPS
Tracking number. and that Tracking number on the TruTrak ADI .
I do have to admit that when I am flying the GPS Tracking Degree number on
the TruTrak ADI , TruTrak Autopilot and the OP Technologies EFIS is seldom
the match. Don't know why but they are always a degree or two off.
Dane
N838RV
RV8a
In a message dated 9/23/2008 4:09:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
n8zg@mchsi.com writes:
Robert =93
I installed AFS-3500 & -3400 (both with internal backup batteries), TruTrak
ADI with internal GPS and backup battery, TruTrak Digiflight VSGV, round ASI
,
round Altimeter.
But I=99m not flying yet
Neal
RV-7 N8ZG
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Quesstion again,: what are people that have installed the EFIS, do...
Robert
--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty
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From: Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty <jfogarty@tds.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Ron, That is a great point.
Jim
RV9a building - MN
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS for spatial orientation
and you lose it then most likely within a minute or two you will enter
uncontrolled flight and will soon be dead.
People...think about what you are doing.
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Subject: | Re: Efis question |
My 2 1/4" ADI, 2 1/4" Altimeter and 2 1/4" Airspeed is my partial panel.
(plus an old battery operator Garmin 95 GPS )
Dane
N838RV
RV8a
In a message dated 9/22/2008 10:50:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
tcone1@comcast.net writes:
Since when is a loss of ADI or artificial horizon an automatic trip to the
morgue?
Don't they teach "partial panel" anymore?
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From: _David Maib_ (mailto:dmaib@mac.com)
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
That is true whether it is an EFIS or a "steam gauge" attitude indicator
that is your sole spatial orientation reference.
David Maib
On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Jim Fogarty at Lakes & Leisure Realty wrote:
Ron, That is a great point.
Jim
RV9a building - MN
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Subject: Re: RV-List: Efis question
Bert, if you are IMC and all you have is an EFIS for spatial orientation
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