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Sun 09/28/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:19 AM - Re: Save me from UGLY! (Ollie Washburn)
     2. 09:44 AM - Re: Save me from UGLY! (Matt Dralle)
     3. 05:24 PM - Re: Save me from UGLY! (David Schaefer)
     4. 05:31 PM - Re: ACI Props (dick martin)
     5. 07:35 PM - Re: rivets working (Hedrick)
     6. 08:17 PM - Re: Save me from UGLY! (Greg Young)
     7. 08:32 PM - Re: Re: rivets working (John Cox)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:19:11 AM PST US
    From: "Ollie Washburn" <ollie6a@embarqmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Save me from UGLY!
    Unit must face correct direction. Mine is mounted on glareshield and work good. Ollie On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:45 PM, David Schaefer <n142ds@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm working on a plan to install a Zaon traffic monitor in the 6A-slider. > However, I can't take the idea of that ugly box above the panel!! Not to > mention the view it will block. I'm working on a plan to mount it off the > baggage compartment bulkhead with a mount that moves it up into the canopy > and about 8" to 10" forward so it's about 12" to 18" or so up behind the > passengers head. SHOULD have a good view of the sky and yet be out of the > way with the display sent to my EFIS units. > > Any other thoughts where to mount this? > > Has anyone done this yet so I don't have to re-invent the wheel?!? > > Thanks..... > > -- > David W. Schaefer > RV-6A N142DS formerly "Geek One' reborn "Nerdgasm" > TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS > www.n142ds.com > > * > >


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    Time: 09:44:39 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Save me from UGLY!
    Zaon is working on a remote mounted version of their collision avoidance system that will have a "black box", external antenna(s), and probably a 3.125" "instrument" for display/control. If you're going to be feeding an EFIS, then you might not even need to mount the 3.125" on the panel as control and display could come from the EFIS. Send Zaon Support some email and ask them about their "panel mount" version and when it will be available. Report back; I'm waiting for the panel mount version for my RV-8, although my panel is already full and adding a 3.125" is going to be tough... Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 At 04:45 PM 9/27/2008 Saturday, you wrote: >I'm working on a plan to install a Zaon traffic monitor in the 6A-slider. However, I can't take the idea of that ugly box above the panel!! Not to mention the view it will block. I'm working on a plan to mount it off the baggage compartment bulkhead with a mount that moves it up into the canopy and about 8" to 10" forward so it's about 12" to 18" or so up behind the passengers head. SHOULD have a good view of the sky and yet be out of the way with the display sent to my EFIS units. > >Any other thoughts where to mount this? > >Has anyone done this yet so I don't have to re-invent the wheel?!? > >Thanks..... > >-- >David W. Schaefer >RV-6A N142DS formerly "Geek One' reborn "Nerdgasm" >TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS ><http://www.n142ds.com>www.n142ds.com > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 05:24:14 PM PST US
    From: "David Schaefer" <n142ds@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Save me from UGLY!
    Matt ... I suspect the wait will be a VERY long time. They have dumped the idea prior to OSH this year. Thanks.... DWS On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > > Zaon is working on a remote mounted version of their collision avoidance > system that will have a "black box", external antenna(s), and probably a > 3.125" "instrument" for display/control. If you're going to be feeding an > EFIS, then you might not even need to mount the 3.125" on the panel as > control and display could come from the EFIS. Send Zaon Support some email > and ask them about their "panel mount" version and when it will be > available. Report back; I'm waiting for the panel mount version for my > RV-8, although my panel is already full and adding a 3.125" is going to be > tough... > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 > > > At 04:45 PM 9/27/2008 Saturday, you wrote: > >I'm working on a plan to install a Zaon traffic monitor in the 6A-slider. > However, I can't take the idea of that ugly box above the panel!! Not to > mention the view it will block. I'm working on a plan to mount it off the > baggage compartment bulkhead with a mount that moves it up into the canopy > and about 8" to 10" forward so it's about 12" to 18" or so up behind the > passengers head. SHOULD have a good view of the sky and yet be out of the > way with the display sent to my EFIS units. > > > >Any other thoughts where to mount this? > > > >Has anyone done this yet so I don't have to re-invent the wheel?!? > > > >Thanks..... > > > >-- > >David W. Schaefer > >RV-6A N142DS formerly "Geek One' reborn "Nerdgasm" > >TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS > ><http://www.n142ds.com>www.n142ds.com > > > > > > > > > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > -- David W. Schaefer RV-6A N142DS formerly "Geek One' reborn "Nerdgasm" TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS www.n142ds.com


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    Time: 05:31:11 PM PST US
    From: "dick martin" <martin@gbonline.com>
    Subject: Re: ACI Props
    Stephan, I have been testing and selling ACI props since they began to sell them. They are brilliant engineers, however, they are not very good sales people. At the present time, I believe they are probably involved in some large military contracts and are neglecting there everyday light plane propellers. If you would like to continue this contact with me, I will be happy to try to assist you. I have over 500 hours on my RV8 equipped with an Aero Composite propeller. I have also as mentioned tested many of the propeller variations that they have designed. Please advise what type of airplane and engine size that you intend to use, and I will advise what I think from my experience with ACI props would be the best for you. I would be happy to talk directly with you by telephone if you like. The best time to call me is between 8am to 5pm Central Daylight time (8 hours time differential between Europe time and central US time) My telephone number is 920 619 6968 cellphone. I am flying almost everyday, so if I do not answer my phone, try later in the day until 9pm in the evening. I do not look at the internet everyday as you can see by the timeing of this Email. Dick Martin RV8 N233M the fast one ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephan Servatius To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: RV-List: ACI Props Dear fellow builders, For my new project I try to get the Aero Composite people on the phone. I tried it a couple of times and send emails, no respond. Does anybody know what's going on there or if the business is already sold to someone else? Stephan RV8 D-EBRV 185 hrs.


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    Time: 07:35:40 PM PST US
    From: "Hedrick" <khedrick@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: RE: rivets working
    Any thoughts on some rivets that are working in the horizontal stabilizer in my RV 6. it is the inboard rivets and it is on both sides. I have noticed this over a 3 or 4 yr period and it continues to involve more rivets. Is this a common thing in older rv=92s, mine is a vintage 1991. in fact it was # 9 rv 6 kit sold. The air frame has almost 1000 hrs on it. how do I stop it and how do I fix the damage ? Thanks Keith Hedrick 64DK @ 3LF Checked by AVG. 9/27/2008 1:11 PM Checked by AVG. 9/27/2008 1:11 PM Checked by AVG. 9/27/2008 1:11 PM


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    Time: 08:17:29 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
    Subject: Save me from UGLY!
    You can remote mount the current unit if you have a TIS compatible display like a 396/496. There's an internal jumper mod they can do to allow it to power up without having to press a front panel button. I had a long conversation with Zane (the ZA of Zaon) and he said they do the mod for sailplane installations. You still have to put the antenna somewhere it's not seriously blocked. He did say you could adjust the gain of each quadrant separately to deal with some location issues. Regards, Greg Young _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Schaefer Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Save me from UGLY! Matt ... I suspect the wait will be a VERY long time. They have dumped the idea prior to OSH this year. Thanks.... DWS On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: Zaon is working on a remote mounted version of their collision avoidance system that will have a "black box", external antenna(s), and probably a 3.125" "instrument" for display/control. If you're going to be feeding an EFIS, then you might not even need to mount the 3.125" on the panel as control and display could come from the EFIS. Send Zaon Support some email and ask them about their "panel mount" version and when it will be available. Report back; I'm waiting for the panel mount version for my RV-8, although my panel is already full and adding a 3.125" is going to be tough... Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 At 04:45 PM 9/27/2008 Saturday, you wrote: >I'm working on a plan to install a Zaon traffic monitor in the 6A-slider. However, I can't take the idea of that ugly box above the panel!! Not to mention the view it will block. I'm working on a plan to mount it off the baggage compartment bulkhead with a mount that moves it up into the canopy and about 8" to 10" forward so it's about 12" to 18" or so up behind the passengers head. SHOULD have a good view of the sky and yet be out of the way with the display sent to my EFIS units. > >Any other thoughts where to mount this? > >Has anyone done this yet so I don't have to re-invent the wheel?!? > >Thanks..... > >-- >David W. Schaefer >RV-6A N142DS formerly "Geek One' reborn "Nerdgasm" >TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS ><http://www.n142ds.com>www.n142ds.com > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft -- David W. Schaefer RV-6A N142DS formerly "Geek One' reborn "Nerdgasm" TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS www.n142ds.com


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    Time: 08:32:47 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: rivets working
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Working rivets, sometimes called "Smokin Rivets" can be the result of flight induced stress and strain from flight forces, airframe design technique and riveting technique. Often, the removed rivets have "Fretted" in their respective holes. Fretting is a form of corrosion. The removal and re-riveting is one method of remediation. Installing the replaced rivets "Wet" is another. There are lots of RV6 guys who should pipe in as to whether this is a reasonably common incident. I have completed a Pre-purchase Inspection and then subsequent Conditional Inspection on a 9 year old, 900 hour 6A without such a finding on a base white topcoat. Cracks which developed early in the flight life have been followed without apparent growth. We measured each and documented them for quantitative comparison next January. These are valued issues to discuss. The original owner moved onto an RV-10 and is now tackling an RV-3 project. John Cox From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hedrick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: RV-List: RE: rivets working Any thoughts on some rivets that are working in the horizontal stabilizer in my RV 6. it is the inboard rivets and it is on both sides. I have noticed this over a 3 or 4 yr period and it continues to involve more rivets. Is this a common thing in older rv's, mine is a vintage 1991. in fact it was # 9 rv 6 kit sold. The air frame has almost 1000 hrs on it. how do I stop it and how do I fix the damage ? Thanks Keith Hedrick 64DK @ 3LF Checked by AVG. 9/27/2008 1:11 PM Checked by AVG. 9/27/2008 1:11 PM Checked by AVG. 9/27/2008 1:11 PM




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