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1. 12:46 PM - RV : [ Terry McMillan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
2. 12:50 PM - If I re-pitch the prop..... (Knicholas2@aol.com)
3. 01:17 PM - RV : [ Harry DeLoach ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
4. 01:22 PM - RV : [ Donald Meehan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
5. 01:32 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Greg Young)
6. 01:47 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Brian Alley)
7. 04:08 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (JFLEISC@AOL.COM)
8. 04:42 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Mike Humphrey)
9. 05:00 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Knicholas2@aol.com)
10. 05:36 PM - Protect me from ugly - Zaon XRX - Part Deux (David Schaefer)
11. 09:43 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Ed Holyoke)
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Subject: | RV : [ Terry McMillan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! |
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter
and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt)
A new Email List PhotoShare is available:
Poster: Terry McMillan <terryml5c2p6@sympatico.ca>
Lists: AeroElectric-list,RV-List,RV7-List,RV8-List,RV10-List,RV9-List
Subject: Dual Battery System
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/terryml5c2p6@sympatico.ca.10.06.2008
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Subject: | If I re-pitch the prop..... |
I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the
"approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was
certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine
- prop combination?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
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Subject: | RV : [ Harry DeLoach ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! |
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter
and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt)
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Poster: Harry DeLoach <harry.deloach@navy.mil>
Lists: RV-List,RV10-List
Subject: Leaving Pensacola with a load of Schrimp...
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/harry.deloach@navy.mil.10.06.2008
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Subject: | RV : [ Donald Meehan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! |
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
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Subject: RV6A step failure - both sides
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Subject: | If I re-pitch the prop..... |
Your Operation Limitations will specify what to do. If they have the more
recent wording, it will require going back into Phase 1 for 5 or so hours
after a major alteration. Some very old ones required a reinspection by the
Feds and they specified the test time. You have to go my the wording of your
own Ops Limitations. If too onerous I suppose you could try to get them
changed. I haven't heard of an Amateur Built doing that but the Exhibition
types have done it.
Regards,
Greg Young
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop.....
I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the
"approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was
certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new
engine - prop combination?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
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Subject: | Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... |
Kim, It depends on your operating
limitations. Experimental aircraft
licensed after about 1997 had
Different wording. You will probably
Be able to place it back in phase two,
fly off 5 hours and sign it off, but
check the operating limitations to
be sure.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved
engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified.
Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop
combination?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
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Subject: | Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... |
In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:51:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Knicholas2@aol.com writes:
I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the
"approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was
certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine
- prop combination?
Holy smokes man! An RV isn't certified! Its just an alteration at most with
a log book notation.
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Subject: | Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... |
Kim,
Experimental aircraft are NOT certified. If you repitch your prop to be
compliant with your airworthiness certificate, I believe all you have to
do is enter the change in your log book, and do a 5 hr 'flyoff'. Check
with your local EAA Tech Adviser to be sure.
Mike H 9A/8A
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From: Knicholas2@aol.com
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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop.....
I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this
changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when
the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time
with this new engine - prop combination?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Auburn, WA
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Subject: | Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... |
I remember when I got my plane's airworthy certificate, if the engine-prop
combination was one that was recognized within certain perameters I only had
to fly off 20 hours. Others I know with different combinations that had to
fly off 40 hours. If I were to switch to a non- "certified" engine I would
have to "start over" and fly off the 40 hours as if I just started. I am just
curious if changing the prop put me in the same situation.
Kim Nicholas
In a message dated 10/6/2008 4:09:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
JFLEISC@aol.com writes:
In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:51:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Knicholas2@aol.com writes:
I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the
"approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was
certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine
- prop combination?
Holy smokes man! An RV isn't certified! Its just an alteration at most with
a log book notation.
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Subject: | Protect me from ugly - Zaon XRX - Part Deux |
I've been working on solving the 'ugly' issue with my new XRX! I found some
RAM mount components on the web and have run it off the baggage compartment
bulk-head with an atriculated mount. It looks to me like it will work and
has a pretty good view of the sky. For those of you who asked, I've updated
the web-site with a few of the 1st pass photos.
www.n142ds.com/Whats_New.html
I hopefully will compete the wiring into the GRT EFIS units this week and
update with additional pictures. Let me know what you think.
Thanks....
--
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
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Subject: | Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... |
Kim,
Call the duty officer at the FSDO and ask him if he thinks a repitch is
a major mod. My guess is that he'll say yes. He might not, though,
especially if you can show him evidence that others are flying with your
proposed pitch. It's worth a try.
If you've got recent oplims, it probably says that, when you make a
major modification, you must notify the FSDO and get their concurrence
with your test flight area and fly off 5 hours - then make a logbook
entry to that effect. The aircraft can then be returned to phase 2. The
FSDO will want their notification in writing. Just write them a letter
describing what you are doing and take two copies of it with you to your
appointment with the inspector at his office. Describe your test flight
area in detail. If you intend to use the same test area as your original
phase 1, and why not, you should still describe it in detail in your
letter. You have to call for an appointment. They won't open the door if
you haven't called ahead.
If you have early oplims, you can get an update to the current set. I
did it and I'm not even the original builder. They wanted me to prove
that I was still in compliance with the requirements for passenger
warning placard and experimental signage. I humored them with a couple
of pictures. They made me jump through some hoops and shit, but they had
to give them up in the end. The fun really began when they told me that
I couldn't fly an experimental at my home airport (and 3 others in their
area). I told them they were way off base and called in the EAA who
explained to them that they were way off base and, after a week or so of
dragging their feet, they caved.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
> I remember when I got my plane's airworthy certificate, if the
> engine-prop combination was one that was recognized within certain
> perameters I only had to fly off 20 hours. Others I know with
> different combinations that had to fly off 40 hours. If I were to
> switch to a non- "certified" engine I would have to "start over" and
> fly off the 40 hours as if I just started. I am just curious if
> changing the prop put me in the same situation.
>
> Kim Nicholas
>
> In a message dated 10/6/2008 4:09:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> JFLEISC@aol.com writes:
>
> In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:51:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Knicholas2@aol.com writes:
>
> I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do,
> this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved
> by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly
> off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination?
>
> Holy smokes man! An RV isn't certified! Its just an alteration at
> most with a log book notation.
>
>
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