---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/06/08: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:46 PM - RV : [ Terry McMillan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares) 2. 12:50 PM - If I re-pitch the prop..... (Knicholas2@aol.com) 3. 01:17 PM - RV : [ Harry DeLoach ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares) 4. 01:22 PM - RV : [ Donald Meehan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares) 5. 01:32 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Greg Young) 6. 01:47 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Brian Alley) 7. 04:08 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (JFLEISC@AOL.COM) 8. 04:42 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Mike Humphrey) 9. 05:00 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Knicholas2@aol.com) 10. 05:36 PM - Protect me from ugly - Zaon XRX - Part Deux (David Schaefer) 11. 09:43 PM - Re: If I re-pitch the prop..... (Ed Holyoke) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:29 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV : [ Terry McMillan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! From: Email List PhotoShares (Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt) A new Email List PhotoShare is available: Poster: Terry McMillan Lists: AeroElectric-list,RV-List,RV7-List,RV8-List,RV10-List,RV9-List Subject: Dual Battery System http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/terryml5c2p6@sympatico.ca.10.06.2008 ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main PhotoShare Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a PhotoShare If you wish to submit a PhotoShare of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:03 PM PST US From: Knicholas2@aol.com Subject: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:53 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV : [ Harry DeLoach ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! From: Email List PhotoShares (Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt) A new Email List PhotoShare is available: Poster: Harry DeLoach Lists: RV-List,RV10-List Subject: Leaving Pensacola with a load of Schrimp... http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/harry.deloach@navy.mil.10.06.2008 ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main PhotoShare Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a PhotoShare If you wish to submit a PhotoShare of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:35 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV : [ Donald Meehan ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! From: Email List PhotoShares (Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt) A new Email List PhotoShare is available: Poster: Donald Meehan Lists: RV-List,RV6-List Subject: RV6A step failure - both sides http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/meehan@wsu.edu.10.06.2008 ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main PhotoShare Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a PhotoShare If you wish to submit a PhotoShare of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:49 PM PST US From: "Greg Young" Subject: RE: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... Your Operation Limitations will specify what to do. If they have the more recent wording, it will require going back into Phase 1 for 5 or so hours after a major alteration. Some very old ones required a reinspection by the Feds and they specified the test time. You have to go my the wording of your own Ops Limitations. If too onerous I suppose you could try to get them changed. I haven't heard of an Amateur Built doing that but the Exhibition types have done it. Regards, Greg Young _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Knicholas2@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:49 PM Subject: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:27 PM PST US From: Brian Alley Subject: Re: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... Kim, It depends on your operating limitations. Experimental aircraft licensed after about 1997 had Different wording. You will probably Be able to place it back in phase two, fly off 5 hours and sign it off, but check the operating limitations to be sure. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Knicholas2@aol.com wrote: I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:05 PM PST US From: JFLEISC@AOL.COM Subject: Re: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:51:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Knicholas2@aol.com writes: I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? Holy smokes man! An RV isn't certified! Its just an alteration at most with a log book notation. **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:02 PM PST US From: "Mike Humphrey" Subject: Re: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... Kim, Experimental aircraft are NOT certified. If you repitch your prop to be compliant with your airworthiness certificate, I believe all you have to do is enter the change in your log book, and do a 5 hr 'flyoff'. Check with your local EAA Tech Adviser to be sure. Mike H 9A/8A ----- Original Message ----- From: Knicholas2@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? Kim Nicholas RV9A Auburn, WA ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:16 PM PST US From: Knicholas2@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... I remember when I got my plane's airworthy certificate, if the engine-prop combination was one that was recognized within certain perameters I only had to fly off 20 hours. Others I know with different combinations that had to fly off 40 hours. If I were to switch to a non- "certified" engine I would have to "start over" and fly off the 40 hours as if I just started. I am just curious if changing the prop put me in the same situation. Kim Nicholas In a message dated 10/6/2008 4:09:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JFLEISC@aol.com writes: In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:51:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Knicholas2@aol.com writes: I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? Holy smokes man! An RV isn't certified! Its just an alteration at most with a log book notation. ____________________________________ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. _Try it out_ (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ! (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:15 PM PST US From: "David Schaefer" Subject: RV-List: Protect me from ugly - Zaon XRX - Part Deux I've been working on solving the 'ugly' issue with my new XRX! I found some RAM mount components on the web and have run it off the baggage compartment bulk-head with an atriculated mount. It looks to me like it will work and has a pretty good view of the sky. For those of you who asked, I've updated the web-site with a few of the 1st pass photos. www.n142ds.com/Whats_New.html I hopefully will compete the wiring into the GRT EFIS units this week and update with additional pictures. Let me know what you think. Thanks.... -- David W. Schaefer RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm" TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS www.n142ds.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:07 PM PST US From: Ed Holyoke Subject: Re: RV-List: If I re-pitch the prop..... Kim, Call the duty officer at the FSDO and ask him if he thinks a repitch is a major mod. My guess is that he'll say yes. He might not, though, especially if you can show him evidence that others are flying with your proposed pitch. It's worth a try. If you've got recent oplims, it probably says that, when you make a major modification, you must notify the FSDO and get their concurrence with your test flight area and fly off 5 hours - then make a logbook entry to that effect. The aircraft can then be returned to phase 2. The FSDO will want their notification in writing. Just write them a letter describing what you are doing and take two copies of it with you to your appointment with the inspector at his office. Describe your test flight area in detail. If you intend to use the same test area as your original phase 1, and why not, you should still describe it in detail in your letter. You have to call for an appointment. They won't open the door if you haven't called ahead. If you have early oplims, you can get an update to the current set. I did it and I'm not even the original builder. They wanted me to prove that I was still in compliance with the requirements for passenger warning placard and experimental signage. I humored them with a couple of pictures. They made me jump through some hoops and shit, but they had to give them up in the end. The fun really began when they told me that I couldn't fly an experimental at my home airport (and 3 others in their area). I told them they were way off base and called in the EAA who explained to them that they were way off base and, after a week or so of dragging their feet, they caved. Pax, Ed Holyoke Knicholas2@aol.com wrote: > I remember when I got my plane's airworthy certificate, if the > engine-prop combination was one that was recognized within certain > perameters I only had to fly off 20 hours. Others I know with > different combinations that had to fly off 40 hours. If I were to > switch to a non- "certified" engine I would have to "start over" and > fly off the 40 hours as if I just started. I am just curious if > changing the prop put me in the same situation. > > Kim Nicholas > > In a message dated 10/6/2008 4:09:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > JFLEISC@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:51:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Knicholas2@aol.com writes: > > I am considering re-pitching the prop on my RV9. If I do, > this changes the "approved engine-prop" combination approved > by the FAA when the plane was certified. Do I now have to fly > off 40 hours of test time with this new engine - prop combination? > > Holy smokes man! An RV isn't certified! Its just an alteration at > most with a log book notation. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New *MapQuest Local* shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. 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