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1. 06:19 AM - Re: Prop Governor Install / XP-360 (Rhonda Bewley)
2. 06:25 AM - When Did ELT's first come availible? (Charles Heathco)
3. 06:38 AM - Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? (Kelly McMullen)
4. 11:43 AM - Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? (linn Walters)
5. 12:10 PM - Re: When Did ELT's first come available? (John Cox)
6. 12:51 PM - Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? (Greg Young)
7. 02:24 PM - 406 mhz vs 121.5 (Bruno)
8. 04:43 PM - Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Prop Governor Install / XP-360 |
You will need SL31C-19 studs for the MT prop governor.
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Kelley
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Prop Governor Install / XP-360
Call Superior and let them know what you need. They'll get the right
studs
to you in no time. I'm a bit surprised you don't already have the
studs;
are you sure the engine is for a constant speed? Is the prop oil line
installed? Mine, which I built at the build school, came with the
studs.
Anyway, I can vouch for Superior's tech support. In fact, I called
about
the tach drive earlier this week and the chief mechanic himself gave me
the
info I needed. They'll get you straightened out and hooked up.
Patrick Kelley - RV-6A N156PK - waiting for Airworthiness Inspection.
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dwight Frye
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: RV-List: Prop Governor Install / XP-360
I'm working on FWF and engine install activities, and got to the point
where I was ready to install my prop governor. I'm trying to install the
MT governor that Van's provides in the FWF kit, on a Superior XP-360
engine. As provided from the factory the XP-360 has a cover plate over
the prop governor drive pad, with a Superior-supplied gasket under the
plate.
As I read through the MT install instructions they discuss installing
the governor over four studs coming off the governor drive pad, with
specific torque values (of course). All nice in simple ... except I
don't have any studs. Instead the cover plate is held on with bolts.
I assume the -right- path is to acquire the correct studs for the MT
governor installation, install the studs into the drive pad, then
install
the governor (as called out in the instructions) with the newly
installed
studs.
Can someone confirm that my assumptions are correct? And, if oneone is
using the XP-360/MT Governor combination, did your engine come set up
the same way? And ... finally ... does anyone happen to already know
the correct studs to order? Thanks!
-- Dwight (going back to do "other stuff" while I wait to
get an answer on the prop governor question ... )
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| Subject: | When Did ELT's first come availible? |
When I got my licence in 66, and again got coml/multi in 69, They were
not in use, at least not that I knew of. I never flew again untill 2003,
when of course they were required. Anyone know when they first became
availible/ requirement? Charlie Heathco
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| Subject: | Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? |
Canada was requiring around 1972. Congressmen Nick Begich(AK) and Hale
Boggs(LA) disappeared on a flight in Alaska during 1972 campaign, and by
the time I bought my first plane in spring of 1975 they were required in
the US, as had to install one as part of pre-purchase. Don't believe any
of the trainers I flew in 1973-74 getting my license had them.
Charles Heathco wrote:
> When I got my licence in 66, and again got coml/multi in 69, They were
> not in use, at least not that I knew of. I never flew again untill
> 2003, when of course they were required. Anyone know when they first
> became availible/ requirement? Charlie Heathco
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? |
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Canada was requiring around 1972. Congressmen Nick Begich(AK) and Hale
> Boggs(LA) disappeared on a flight in Alaska during 1972 campaign, and
> by the time I bought my first plane in spring of 1975 they were
> required in the US, as had to install one as part of pre-purchase.
> Don't believe any of the trainers I flew in 1973-74 getting my license
> had them.
My '73 Grumman AA-1B had one installed as original equipment.
Linn
do not archive
>
>
> Charles Heathco wrote:
>> When I got my licence in 66, and again got coml/multi in 69, They
>> were not in use, at least not that I knew of. I never flew again
>> untill 2003, when of course they were required. Anyone know when they
>> first became availible/ requirement? Charlie Heathco
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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| Subject: | When Did ELT's first come available? |
The FARs were re-written (major rewrite) effective Nov of 1973. I spent
the summer of 73 flying portable units, by the case lot, around the
Pacific NW for sale by FBOs. The battery requirement and mounting
procedure changed from the original portable concept much later. Back
in 72 you could get a Commercial and CFI with much fewer hours.
John Cox
Do not Archive
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: When Did ELT's first come availible?
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Canada was requiring around 1972. Congressmen Nick Begich(AK) and Hale
> Boggs(LA) disappeared on a flight in Alaska during 1972 campaign, and
> by the time I bought my first plane in spring of 1975 they were
> required in the US, as had to install one as part of pre-purchase.
> Don't believe any of the trainers I flew in 1973-74 getting my license
> had them.
My '73 Grumman AA-1B had one installed as original equipment.
Linn
do not archive
>
>
> Charles Heathco wrote:
>> When I got my licence in 66, and again got coml/multi in 69, They
>> were not in use, at least not that I knew of. I never flew again
>> untill 2003, when of course they were required. Anyone know when they
>> first became availible/ requirement? Charlie Heathco
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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| Subject: | When Did ELT's first come availible? |
I got my license in 1973 and bought a T-craft that year that had a EBC-102
ELT (the cheap yellow one with the swinging weight) so it was required by
then.
Regards,
Greg Young
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:36 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: When Did ELT's first come availible?
>
>
> Canada was requiring around 1972. Congressmen Nick Begich(AK) and Hale
> Boggs(LA) disappeared on a flight in Alaska during 1972
> campaign, and by the time I bought my first plane in spring
> of 1975 they were required in the US, as had to install one
> as part of pre-purchase. Don't believe any of the trainers I
> flew in 1973-74 getting my license had them.
>
> Charles Heathco wrote:
> > When I got my licence in 66, and again got coml/multi in
> 69, They were
> > not in use, at least not that I knew of. I never flew again untill
> > 2003, when of course they were required. Anyone know when
> they first
> > became availible/ requirement? Charlie Heathco
> > *
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| Subject: | 406 mhz vs 121.5 |
Dear Emrath
''Only 15 years after ELTs
were mandated was satellites monitoring introduced. So you revert to the
status ELTs had before 1985. If you really believe that being rescued in
8-12 hours rather than 24 hours is going to make that big a difference,
feel free to spend the money.''
Well I'm old enough and I will spend the money regardless of the
fact that the Canadian MOT has made it compulsory as of Feb 2009.
As an ex-Air Force Search and Rescue crew for many years I've got to tell you that
8-12 hours vs 24 hours will make a world of difference if you're down in
the bush with your family being injured or not.
The standard 121.5 ELTs are notoriously know for being subject to false alarms
( Ask me how many times I had to get airborne in a hurry to chase what turned
out to be a false alarm) or trying to home on a beacon in the mountains with the
signal bouncing off the mountain's sides....
The 406 MHZ ELTs have 5 times the transmit power, can be co-located with GPS and
have a much better accuracy....
Gentlement, if you are able to afford an airplane, you sure as hell can afford
a much better device that will increase your chances of being rescue by a factor
too great to put a price tag on it...
If you don't care, ask your family what they think.....
Regards
Bruno Dionne
rv4@videotron.ca
C-GDBH RV-4
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| Subject: | Re: When Did ELT's first come availible? |
I'm pretty sure this was one of those regs that was issued with
deadlines extended a couple times. It was rushed through sometime in
early '73, with very little review of the TSO, right after the months
and millions spent searching for the congressmen. Final deadline was
some period longer, as most planes I looked at, shopping in late '74 to
early '75 did not have them. Probably because it was in Alaska, and they
typically got extensions on a lot of regs. They were around $200 back
then, which was a chunk of change, compared to today.
linn Walters wrote:
>
> Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> Canada was requiring around 1972. Congressmen Nick Begich(AK) and
>> Hale Boggs(LA) disappeared on a flight in Alaska during 1972
>> campaign, and by the time I bought my first plane in spring of 1975
>> they were required in the US, as had to install one as part of
>> pre-purchase. Don't believe any of the trainers I flew in 1973-74
>> getting my license had them.
> My '73 Grumman AA-1B had one installed as original equipment.
> Linn
> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Charles Heathco wrote:
>>> When I got my licence in 66, and again got coml/multi in 69, They
>>> were not in use, at least not that I knew of. I never flew again
>>> untill 2003, when of course they were required. Anyone know when
>>> they first became availible/ requirement? Charlie Heathco
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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