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1. 10:47 AM - Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 ()
2. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 (Ron Lee)
3. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 (Ron Lee)
4. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 (Bruce Gray)
5. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 (Ron Lee)
6. 09:54 PM - Re: gas card discount (David Cudney)
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| Subject: | Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 |
Linn not to argue but are you not forgetting that you might die? A ELT in theory
could bring help and save your life or your passengers life. A 121.5 Mhz ELT
only is pretty useless and even more useless in a few months when 243 Mhz tracking
goes away. A PLB cost at least $600, where a ACK aircraft ELT cost $600
and will meet future needs. Just my 0.02 worth, Cheers
PS the 406 ELT mandate IS COMING, it has to. It cost millions and millions a
year to track down false alarms. The good news is 243Mhz satellites are going
going gone. 121.5 is not tacked but satellites and has a very short range, so
it's unlikely any one will even look for you, saving tax payers money.
>From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5
>>gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com wrote:
>> $600 406 mhz ELT? ACK may be out now or just coming out with a $600
>> 406 aviation ELT. See their web site.
>>
>> http://www.ackavionics.com/
>just keep it. Since the FAA hasn't mandated anything for the 406 .....
> yet ..... (it may come anyway) ..... then the $600 PLB would seem to
>be money well spent.
>Linn
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| Subject: | Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 |
George, satellite monitoring of 121.5 MHz (and 243 MHz) is going away.
Aircraft may well monitor that frequency for many years.
http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/Phase-outFinal.pdf
It was reported (not verified by me) that Fossett had a 406 MHz unit. I
have
seen nothing to say that 406 MHz units will be more reliable so ELTs in
my
opinion are mandated dead weight.
I have a 406 MHz PLB and will install an APRS (requires a ham license)
someday.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: RV-List: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5
Linn not to argue but are you not forgetting that you might die? A ELT
in theory could bring help and save your life or your passengers life. A
121.5 Mhz ELT only is pretty useless and even more useless in a few
months when 243 Mhz tracking goes away. A PLB cost at least $600, where
a ACK aircraft ELT cost $600 and will meet future needs. Just my 0.02
worth, Cheers
PS the 406 ELT mandate IS COMING, it has to. It cost millions and
millions a year to track down false alarms. The good news is 243Mhz
satellites are going going gone. 121.5 is not tacked but satellites and
has a very short range, so it's unlikely any one will even look for you,
saving tax payers money.
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| Subject: | Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 |
What hard evidence do you have that the FAA will
mandate 406 MHz ELTs for retrofit?
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 |
I doubt if any type of ELT/PLB/APRS will survive flying onto the face of
a
mountain.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5
George, satellite monitoring of 121.5 MHz (and 243 MHz) is going away.
Aircraft may well monitor that frequency for many years.
http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/Phase-outFinal.pdf
It was reported (not verified by me) that Fossett had a 406 MHz unit. I
have
seen nothing to say that 406 MHz units will be more reliable so ELTs in
my
opinion are mandated dead weight.
I have a 406 MHz PLB and will install an APRS (requires a ham license)
someday.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:43 AM
Subject: RV-List: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5
Linn not to argue but are you not forgetting that you might die? A ELT
in
theory could bring help and save your life or your passengers life. A
121.5
Mhz ELT only is pretty useless and even more useless in a few months
when
243 Mhz tracking goes away. A PLB cost at least $600, where a ACK
aircraft
ELT cost $600 and will meet future needs. Just my 0.02 worth, Cheers
PS the 406 ELT mandate IS COMING, it has to. It cost millions and
millions a
year to track down false alarms. The good news is 243Mhz satellites are
going going gone. 121.5 is not tacked but satellites and has a very
short
range, so it's unlikely any one will even look for you, saving tax
payers
money.
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| Subject: | Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5 |
MessageBut an APRS (or Spot) will leave position reports that will
provide far better
info to rescue/recover someone than an ELT.
One article stated (not verified) that ELTs do not activate in a large
number
of crashes (maybe it was 50% or more). Or maybe it was over 70%. I
do not recall. Regardless, that is a poor value that further supports
my
opinion that an ELT is just mandated dead weight.
I have a better chance of recovery/rescue using flight following.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: 406 mhz vs 121.5
I doubt if any type of ELT/PLB/APRS will survive flying onto the face
of a mountain.
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| Subject: | Re: gas card discount |
Air Nav advertises a gas discount card (Air Boss) that promises lower
fuel prices at participating dealers. Has anyone tried it and is it
worth it?
Dave @ RAL --- RV 7A
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