---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/03/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:18 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:34 AM - Re: Another Brake Question (Charles Kuss) 2. 07:05 AM - Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? (Ralph E. Capen) 3. 10:07 AM - Re: Another Brake Question (James H Nelson) 4. 11:24 AM - Re: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? (Greg Young) 5. 01:53 PM - Re: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? (Patrick Kelley) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:37 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:48 AM PST US From: Charles Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: Another Brake Question Paul, If you plan to use that tool exclusively for aircraft, you could simply replace all the seals and O-rings with items made of Nitrile (also called Buna N). Charlie --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Paul Besing wrote: > From: Paul Besing > Subject: Re: RV-List: Another Brake Question > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 11:56 PM > Ah hah...thanks Charlie...I'll do that. > > Paul Besing > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Charles Kuss > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 8:46:58 AM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Another Brake Question > > > > Paul, > You are forgetting one thing about that Harbor Freight > brake bleeder tool. It's designed for automotive gylcol > based fluids, which means that it's O-rings and seals > are made from EDPM, not Nitrile or Viton. You'll need to > flush out the aircraft mineral oil based brake fluid > immediately after use, if you expect to use the thing more > than a few times. > Charlie Kuss > > > snipped > > BTW, harbor freight sells a really cool one man vacuum > > bleed kit that you hook air up to, and it has a nice > large > > reservoir for collecting the brake fluid...plus a > fluid > > supply bottle with a ball valve...nifty...$29. > > > > Paul Besing > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Sam Buchanan > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 3:12:01 PM > > Subject: Re: RV-List: Another Brake Question > > > > > > > > linn Walters wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, but it's a PITA to change the pads. I > would > > find out what's > > > going on and fix it. You'd hate to have a > brake > > go out when you > > > really need it. And the cost may be more than > $15 > > then! ;-) > > > > > > 'Bout thirty minutes at most on an RV. Pads can > removed > > from the wheel > > assembly in less time than it takes to remove the > wheel > > pant. > > > > Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:04 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? I'm looking at the firewall eyeball fittings for a bunch of the cables going through the firewall. Is there a consensus as to whether the eyeball locking ring should be on the cockpit side or the engine side? If it is on the engine side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves could fall out and out the bottom of the cowl...in flight they would be gone forever...... If it is on the cockpit side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves will be floating around the cockpit. Ralph ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Another Brake Question From: James H Nelson Actually, you should use "viton" for the o-rings on the calipers. They will stand the heat and chemical compatability. The regular o-rings in the master cyl's are fine. Change'm as necessary. Jim ____________________________________________________________ Are you safe? Click for free quote on home security system. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ni3cfq8IjTYUhaCOjWEd5548EZ9blD3XiF909G1dUKlw4Dx/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:29 AM PST US From: "Greg Young" Subject: RE: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? I mounted all mine (3 airplanes worth) from the engine side. Access and convenience dictate the orientation. I'm don't even want to think about going panel diving with those itty bitty screws. I'm not that masochistic. They all have lock washers so the chance of any coming loose is practically nil. If things start shaking that much those aren't the balls I'd worry about losing. Add some Locktite if you like the belt and suspenders approach. Regards, Greg Young > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Ralph E. Capen > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:02 AM > To: rv-list > Subject: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? > > > > I'm looking at the firewall eyeball fittings for a bunch of > the cables going through the firewall. > > Is there a consensus as to whether the eyeball locking ring > should be on the cockpit side or the engine side? If it is > on the engine side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves > could fall out and out the bottom of the cowl...in flight > they would be gone forever...... If it is on the cockpit > side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves will be floating > around the cockpit. > > Ralph > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:10 PM PST US From: "Patrick Kelley" Subject: RE: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? If you're looking at the one I'm thinking of, there are two retaining rings. One is fastened to the firewall with two screws and the other fastens to the first one with four screws through the firewall. The first one I installed permanently inside the firewall with 'permanent' locktite on its two screws. Then I installed the eyeball halves with hi-temp RTV to help hold the halves together and seal the joint. Finally, I installed the last ring with RTV and the remaining four screws. Even if I lose the screws I doubt I will lose the ring or eyeball halves. I'd have to lose four screws for that, and all six screws to lose the inner retainer. Hopefully I'd catch it in inspection before that could happen. Anyway, as mentioned by Greg, screws to the engine compartment is more accessible, which dictated how I oriented mine. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A N156PK - waiting for the DAR -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:02 AM Subject: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? I'm looking at the firewall eyeball fittings for a bunch of the cables going through the firewall. Is there a consensus as to whether the eyeball locking ring should be on the cockpit side or the engine side? If it is on the engine side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves could fall out and out the bottom of the cowl...in flight they would be gone forever...... If it is on the cockpit side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves will be floating around the cockpit. 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