RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/04/08


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:33 AM - Gas Cap "O" Rings (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
     2. 05:48 AM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (David Leonard)
     3. 05:50 AM - Re: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? (Ralph E. Capen)
     4. 06:04 AM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (Kelly McMullen)
     5. 06:23 AM - Gas Cap "O" Rings (James H Nelson)
     6. 04:48 PM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (Russ & Marilyn)
     7. 05:24 PM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (Charlie England)
     8. 05:29 PM - paint removal (Wayne Williams)
     9. 06:06 PM - Re: paint removal (Kyle Boatright)
    10. 06:27 PM - Re: paint removal (linn Walters)
    11. 06:36 PM - Re: paint removal (Paul Rice)
    12. 09:34 PM - Paint Scheme Opinion Pole (Robin Marks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:33:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Gas Cap "O" Rings
    From: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCPower.com>
    Listers, I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low temperature equivalents to the Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps. The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below 15* F.. At low temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems to not contract and allow the gas cap to be lifted. Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone out of business... Does anyone have another source? Fred Stucklen RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs


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    Time: 05:48:55 AM PST US
    From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings
    Try McMaster Carr. They have a large selection of o-rings in a variety of materials. Dave Leonard On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR < Fred.Stucklen@utcpower.com> wrote: > Listers, > > I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low temperature > equivalents to the > Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps. > The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below 15* > F.. At low > temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems to > not contract > and allow the gas cap to be lifted. > Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone out of > business... Does > anyone have another source? > > > *Fred Stucklen* > RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs > > * > > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net


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    Time: 05:50:25 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out?
    I'm actually talking about the 'other' type of eyeball fitting - with the blue anodized main fitting, attaching ring, and ball-retainer. No screws involved - but if the ball retainer comes loose, the ball halves may fall out. I agree that the 'screw-together' type are probably not prone to this issue. -----Original Message----- >From: Patrick Kelley <webmaster@flion.com> >Sent: Nov 3, 2008 4:50 PM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? > > >If you're looking at the one I'm thinking of, there are two retaining rings. One is fastened to the firewall with two screws and the other fastens to the first one with four screws through the firewall. The first one I installed permanently inside the firewall with 'permanent' locktite on its two screws. Then I installed the eyeball halves with hi-temp RTV to help hold the halves together and seal the joint. Finally, I installed the last ring with RTV and the remaining four screws. Even if I lose the screws I doubt I will lose the ring or eyeball halves. I'd have to lose four screws for that, and all six screws to lose the inner retainer. Hopefully I'd catch it in inspection before that could happen. Anyway, as mentioned by Greg, screws to the engine compartment is more accessible, which dictated how I oriented mine. > >Patrick Kelley - RV-6A N156PK - waiting for the DAR > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:02 AM >To: rv-list >Subject: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? > > >I'm looking at the firewall eyeball fittings for a bunch of the cables going through the firewall. > >Is there a consensus as to whether the eyeball locking ring should be on the cockpit side or the engine side? If it is on the engine side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves could fall out and out the bottom of the cowl...in flight they would be gone forever...... If it is on the cockpit side and it comes apart, the eyeball halves will be floating around the cockpit. > >Ralph > >


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    Time: 06:04:30 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings
    The O-rings should be MS29512 series, for static applications with hydocarbon fuels, made to Mil-P-5315 spec, which are rated for -65 to +200 degrees, and black in color. I don't know what material Van uses. David Leonard wrote: > Try McMaster Carr. They have a large selection of o-rings in a > variety of materials. > > Dave Leonard > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR > <Fred.Stucklen@utcpower.com <mailto:Fred.Stucklen@utcpower.com>> wrote: > > Listers, > > I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low > temperature equivalents to the > Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps. > The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps > below 15* F.. At low > temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring > seems to not contract > and allow the gas cap to be lifted. > Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since > gone out of business... Does > anyone have another source? > > > > *Fred Stucklen* > RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs > > * > > * > > > -- > David Leonard > > Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY > http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net > http://RotaryRoster.net > * > > *


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    Time: 06:23:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Gas Cap "O" Rings
    From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
    Hi Fred, I sell O-Rings at my shop (all kinds). The Viton (available in brown or black) is rated from -65*F to +500*F. The best reason for the brown version is to avoid confusion of materials. All the rest of the O-Rings are black and hard to tell the difference in materials. Such as Buna, Butyl, Ethylene Propylene. So the brown helps. Any material at the temps of around 15*F and lower are going to be stiffer than at higher temps. I use a wooden dowel (with calibrations at 5-10-15 gallons) with a steel pin (nail with out head) inserted on one end. I use it to lift the lock on the cap. At that point, you grip the cap and lift. If it comes out with a lot of effort, I would make up a device to "hook" on to the cap to pull it from the tank. Is that confusing enough?? Jim Nelson RV9-A ____________________________________________________________ Click here and choose from thousands of high quality used cars. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oE0bmQByYhqqwhMEsVvhS8QRLDS76yF8shf0JT9u8UggS19/


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    Time: 04:48:09 PM PST US
    From: "Russ & Marilyn" <rmkeith@gwi.net>
    Subject: Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings
    The o rings are 2-325 viton-75 a softer compound might help. Buna-N is also an acceptable compound and can be found with a Shore hardness of 70. Russ Keith RV9A 90%DONE $10,000 left to go I think ----- Original Message ----- From: Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: RV-List: Gas Cap "O" Rings Listers, I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low temperature equivalents to the Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps. The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below 15* F.. At low temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems to not contract and allow the gas cap to be lifted. Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone out of business... Does anyone have another source? Fred Stucklen RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs


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    Time: 05:24:34 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings
    Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR wrote: > Listers, > > I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low > temperature equivalents to the > Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps. > The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below > 15* F.. At low > temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems > to not contract > and allow the gas cap to be lifted. > Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone > out of business... Does > anyone have another source? > > > > *Fred Stucklen* > RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs > I'll pass on a tip someone else gave me: http://allorings.com/ The size is 2-325 (1 7/8" ID) in Buna-n. They will sell a bag of 10 for $10, but the assortment on the primary web page includes something like a half-dozen of that size plus a LOT of other sizes in a nice box, p/n 70D, for the same price. Total with shipping is around $20. I've been using a pair & running autogas for about a year with no ill effects (originals swelled up badly on autogas). YMMV, etc etc. Charlie


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    Time: 05:29:31 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
    Subject: paint removal
    What=92s the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint my canopy skirt. Thanks! Wayne Checked by AVG. 11/3/2008 4:59 PM


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    Time: 06:06:40 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: paint removal
    Your only real option is to sand it.... Strippers may damage the fiberglass (or may not, but you won't know until too late). ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Williams To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: RV-List: paint removal What=92s the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint my canopy skirt. Thanks! Wayne Checked by AVG. 11/3/2008 4:59 PM


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    Time: 06:27:39 PM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: paint removal
    Home Depot has stripper specifically for fiberglass ...... with polyester resin. You don't want to use regular paint stripper on polyester, but I don't know about the epoxies. The fiberglass stuff is the safer way to go although I found it kinda puny on imron. Linn Wayne Williams wrote: > > Whats the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint > my canopy skirt. > > Thanks! > > > > Wayne > > > > > Checked by AVG. > 11/3/2008 4:59 PM > * > > *


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    Time: 06:36:19 PM PST US
    From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
    Subject: paint removal
    Hey Wayne=2C You don't need to remove all the paint=2C just sand it down nice and smooth with 400 grit/wet and then put some white primer on and paint. Or=2C if y ou are repainting with the same color=2C just sand and paint and clear coat =2C if applicable. I had to fix my wheel pants and this worked perfectly. Paul RV8 Flying Siren From: rwayne@gamewood.netTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: paint r emovalDate: Tue=2C 4 Nov 2008 20:28:20 -0500 What=92s the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint my canopy skirt. Thanks! Wayne Checked by AVG.11/3/2008 4:59 PM


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    Time: 09:34:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Paint Scheme Opinion Pole
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    It's time for me to finalize my paint scheme and so true to form last minute I came up with a number of alternate designs. Keep in mind this plane has the James cowl. If interested please review the designs and email me off list with your favorite design # and any comments you may have. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/paint.htm Thanks, Robin@PaintTheWeb.com




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