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1. 05:33 AM - Gas Cap "O" Rings (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
2. 05:48 AM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (David Leonard)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? (Ralph E. Capen)
4. 06:04 AM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (Kelly McMullen)
5. 06:23 AM - Gas Cap "O" Rings (James H Nelson)
6. 04:48 PM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (Russ & Marilyn)
7. 05:24 PM - Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings (Charlie England)
8. 05:29 PM - paint removal (Wayne Williams)
9. 06:06 PM - Re: paint removal (Kyle Boatright)
10. 06:27 PM - Re: paint removal (linn Walters)
11. 06:36 PM - Re: paint removal (Paul Rice)
12. 09:34 PM - Paint Scheme Opinion Pole (Robin Marks)
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Subject: | Gas Cap "O" Rings |
Listers,
I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low temperature
equivalents to the
Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps.
The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below
15* F.. At low
temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems to
not contract
and allow the gas cap to be lifted.
Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone out
of business... Does
anyone have another source?
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs
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Subject: | Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings |
Try McMaster Carr. They have a large selection of o-rings in a variety of
materials.
Dave Leonard
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR <
Fred.Stucklen@utcpower.com> wrote:
> Listers,
>
> I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low temperature
> equivalents to the
> Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps.
> The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below 15*
> F.. At low
> temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems to
> not contract
> and allow the gas cap to be lifted.
> Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone out of
> business... Does
> anyone have another source?
>
>
> *Fred Stucklen*
> RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs
>
> *
>
>
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
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Subject: | Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out? |
I'm actually talking about the 'other' type of eyeball fitting - with the blue
anodized main fitting, attaching ring, and ball-retainer. No screws involved
- but if the ball retainer comes loose, the ball halves may fall out.
I agree that the 'screw-together' type are probably not prone to this issue.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Patrick Kelley <webmaster@flion.com>
>Sent: Nov 3, 2008 4:50 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out?
>
>
>If you're looking at the one I'm thinking of, there are two retaining rings.
One is fastened to the firewall with two screws and the other fastens to the first
one with four screws through the firewall. The first one I installed permanently
inside the firewall with 'permanent' locktite on its two screws. Then
I installed the eyeball halves with hi-temp RTV to help hold the halves together
and seal the joint. Finally, I installed the last ring with RTV and the
remaining four screws. Even if I lose the screws I doubt I will lose the ring
or eyeball halves. I'd have to lose four screws for that, and all six screws
to lose the inner retainer. Hopefully I'd catch it in inspection before that
could happen. Anyway, as mentioned by Greg, screws to the engine compartment
is more accessible, which dictated how I oriented mine.
>
>Patrick Kelley - RV-6A N156PK - waiting for the DAR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
>Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:02 AM
>To: rv-list
>Subject: RV-List: Firewall eyeball fitting...in or out?
>
>
>I'm looking at the firewall eyeball fittings for a bunch of the cables going through
the firewall.
>
>Is there a consensus as to whether the eyeball locking ring should be on the cockpit
side or the engine side? If it is on the engine side and it comes apart,
the eyeball halves could fall out and out the bottom of the cowl...in flight
they would be gone forever...... If it is on the cockpit side and it comes
apart, the eyeball halves will be floating around the cockpit.
>
>Ralph
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings |
The O-rings should be MS29512 series, for static applications with
hydocarbon fuels, made to Mil-P-5315 spec, which are rated for -65 to
+200 degrees, and black in color. I don't know what material Van uses.
David Leonard wrote:
> Try McMaster Carr. They have a large selection of o-rings in a
> variety of materials.
>
> Dave Leonard
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR
> <Fred.Stucklen@utcpower.com <mailto:Fred.Stucklen@utcpower.com>> wrote:
>
> Listers,
>
> I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low
> temperature equivalents to the
> Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps.
> The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps
> below 15* F.. At low
> temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring
> seems to not contract
> and allow the gas cap to be lifted.
> Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since
> gone out of business... Does
> anyone have another source?
>
>
>
> *Fred Stucklen*
> RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
> --
> David Leonard
>
> Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
> http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
> http://RotaryRoster.net
> *
>
> *
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Subject: | Gas Cap "O" Rings |
Hi Fred,
I sell O-Rings at my shop (all kinds). The Viton (available in
brown or black) is rated from -65*F to +500*F. The best reason for the
brown version is to avoid confusion of materials. All the rest of the
O-Rings are black and hard to tell the difference in materials. Such as
Buna, Butyl, Ethylene Propylene. So the brown helps. Any material at
the temps of around 15*F and lower are going to be stiffer than at higher
temps. I use a wooden dowel (with calibrations at 5-10-15 gallons) with
a steel pin (nail with out head) inserted on one end. I use it to lift
the lock on the cap. At that point, you grip the cap and lift. If it
comes out with a lot of effort, I would make up a device to "hook" on to
the cap to pull it from the tank.
Is that confusing enough??
Jim Nelson
RV9-A
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Subject: | Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings |
The o rings are 2-325 viton-75 a softer compound might help. Buna-N is
also an acceptable compound and can be found with a Shore hardness of
70.
Russ Keith
RV9A 90%DONE $10,000 left to go I think
----- Original Message -----
From: Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:32 AM
Subject: RV-List: Gas Cap "O" Rings
Listers,
I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low
temperature equivalents to the
Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps.
The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below
15* F.. At low
temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems
to not contract
and allow the gas cap to be lifted.
Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone
out of business... Does
anyone have another source?
Fred Stucklen
RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs
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Subject: | Re: Gas Cap "O" Rings |
Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR wrote:
> Listers,
>
> I'm looking for a source of gas cap "O" rings that are low
> temperature equivalents to the
> Brown "O" rings that are supplied with kits and new gas caps.
> The brown variety that Van supplies do not work well in temps below
> 15* F.. At low
> temps, the gas cap is impossible to remove. The brown "O" ring seems
> to not contract
> and allow the gas cap to be lifted.
> Years ago I found a local "O" ring source, but it has since gone
> out of business... Does
> anyone have another source?
>
>
>
> *Fred Stucklen*
> RV-7A N924RV 75 Hrs
>
I'll pass on a tip someone else gave me:
http://allorings.com/
The size is 2-325 (1 7/8" ID) in Buna-n.
They will sell a bag of 10 for $10, but the assortment on the primary
web page includes something like a half-dozen of that size plus a LOT of
other sizes in a nice box, p/n 70D, for the same price. Total with
shipping is around $20. I've been using a pair & running autogas for
about a year with no ill effects (originals swelled up badly on autogas).
YMMV, etc etc.
Charlie
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What=92s the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint
my
canopy skirt.
Thanks!
Wayne
Checked by AVG.
11/3/2008
4:59 PM
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Subject: | Re: paint removal |
Your only real option is to sand it.... Strippers may damage the
fiberglass (or may not, but you won't know until too late).
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Williams
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:28 PM
Subject: RV-List: paint removal
What=92s the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to
repaint my canopy skirt.
Thanks!
Wayne
Checked by AVG.
11/3/2008 4:59 PM
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Subject: | Re: paint removal |
Home Depot has stripper specifically for fiberglass ...... with
polyester resin. You don't want to use regular paint stripper on
polyester, but I don't know about the epoxies. The fiberglass stuff is
the safer way to go although I found it kinda puny on imron.
Linn
Wayne Williams wrote:
>
> Whats the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint
> my canopy skirt.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
> Checked by AVG.
> 11/3/2008 4:59 PM
> *
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> *
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Hey Wayne=2C
You don't need to remove all the paint=2C just sand it down nice and smooth
with 400 grit/wet and then put some white primer on and paint. Or=2C if y
ou are repainting with the same color=2C just sand and paint and clear coat
=2C if applicable.
I had to fix my wheel pants and this worked perfectly.
Paul
RV8
Flying Siren
From: rwayne@gamewood.netTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: paint r
emovalDate: Tue=2C 4 Nov 2008 20:28:20 -0500
What=92s the best way to remove paint from fiberglass? I nned to repaint my
canopy skirt.
Thanks!
Wayne
Checked by AVG.11/3/2008 4:59 PM
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Subject: | Paint Scheme Opinion Pole |
It's time for me to finalize my paint scheme and so true to form last
minute I came up with a number of alternate designs.
Keep in mind this plane has the James cowl. If interested please review
the designs and email me off list with your favorite design # and any
comments you may have.
http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/paint.htm
Thanks,
Robin@PaintTheWeb.com
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