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Fri 11/21/08


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:40 AM - Fuel gauge (bert murillo)
     2. 06:59 AM - gasket (bert murillo)
     3. 01:51 PM - Re: Fuel gauge (JFLEISC@aol.com)
     4. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A (Jerry Springer)
     5. 03:58 PM - Re: Fuel gauge (bert murillo)
     6. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A (Charlie England)
     7. 07:56 PM - Re: Pedal plane kits (HCRV6@comcast.net)
     8. 08:48 PM - Re: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A (Vanremog@aol.com)
     9. 10:42 PM - Re: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A (Jerry Springer)
    10. 11:09 PM - Re: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A (David Maib)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:40:23 AM PST US
    From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fuel gauge
    Hi: Question, recently i notice the right fuel gauge needle, goes crazy it moves up and down, I cannot remember if ever stop...since last flight.. What can be the cause of this? it became apparent the day I filled the tanks. as soon as I turn the master switch on, starts...up and down... Your suggestions appreciated Robert


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    Time: 06:59:21 AM PST US
    From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
    Subject: gasket
    Hi: Help... Need to know the number for the small gasket, that goes on the center of the fuel tank cover plate.where the sensor wire? I am talking about the small one in center, if the tank..\I canot find it on the Van's catalog or any other place.. thanks for the info robert


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    Time: 01:51:23 PM PST US
    From: JFLEISC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel gauge
    I have one that does that when the gauge has a bad ground. Jim **************Check out smokin=99 hot deals on laptops, desktops and m ore from Dell. Shop Deals ttp://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;209513277;31396581;l)


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    Time: 02:25:19 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A
    Well if you are going to bring politics into this forum then, I well say the current president is not as stupid as the one we are going to get. I would not call a president that has kept terrorist from attacking this country for the last 7 years stupid. Geez for a bunch of stupid people sure is strange that we are still the most powerful, prosperous, advanced country in the world. WOW we are really getting change with NObama, all the Clinton cabinet. Oh wait Nobama is going to keep all 57 states safe. DO NOT ARCHIVE bert murillo wrote: > >I have always said: Ignorance and stupidity, are not the privilege,or >peopole on third world countries. It is abounding in the USA, not only on >people with no highschool education, but in the upper ladder, even >the President of the US, has shown stupidity many times... > >NO sense on trying to convince people, on something they already have >created in their minds to be true... is a waste of time. > >robert >--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> wrote: > > > >>From: Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> >>Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 4:34 PM >><terry@tcwatson.com> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>SteinAir, Inc. >>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:59 PM >>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >> >>Inc." <stein@steinair.com> >> >>This is a question I have that is really a question...and >>I'm not trying to >>be fececious....I truly want to know: >> >>Does anyone know of (or ever heard of) any pilot who >>crashed and died whilst >>awaiting a rescue - someone who lived through the crash but >>died because >>rescuers didn't get there? What I mean is, does any of >>you know anyone who >>crashed, and then waited for CAP or whomever to find them? >>Typically I >>usually see two results from a crash. 1) Death. 2) Non >>Death - people live >>through the crash and crawl/walk/run away. Perhaps there >>are examples, I've >>just been trying for years to find any credible for first >>hand accounts of >>where an ELT did or even could have saved a life.... >>I'm not interested in >>hearing hangar stories or "I heard of", but truly >>credible instances. They >>certainly must be there or we wouldn't have this whole >>ELT discussion to >>begin with. I'm just trying to find such examples. >> >>If you know, please share! >> >>Thanks, >>Stein >> >>do not archive >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >>> >>> >>John Cox >> >> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:37 PM >>>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>> >>> >>> >>> >><johnwcox@pacificnw.com> >> >> >>>My premise remains that after the first ineffective >>> >>> >>install, others >> >> >>>followed by copying, Kool-Aid was passed, really large >>> >>> >>numbers of >> >> >>>installs supported lack of viable research. The device >>> >>> >>is aboard, which >> >> >>>meets the letter of the law - Chapter Closed. >>> >>> >>Practical value - Zilch. >> >> >>>With 406 the discussion deserves to be opened to >>> >>> >>location within the >> >> >>>aircraft, purpose of the device, mounting technique, >>> >>> >>ground plane >> >> >>>effectiveness and strong signal propagation (on freq) >>> >>> >>from a good >> >> >>>distance from the aircraft fuselage regardless of >>> >>> >>location, orientation >> >> >>>or condition of the airframe. >>> >>>Bob can give this topic the light that needs to be shed >>> >>> >>on the issue. >> >> >>>W7COX >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf >>> >>> >>Of Scott >> >> >>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:11 AM >>>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>> >>> >>> >><acepilot@bloomer.net> >> >> >>>Well, I don't have data to back me up, but as a >>> >>> >>fellow ham who dabbles >> >> >>>in the world above 50 MHz (actually, I have stuff for >>> >>> >>our microwave >> >> >>>bands) and can say that a fuselage would make a >>> >>> >>"decent" waveguide at >> >> >>>VHF and UHF. Waveguide is made to contain RF. I think >>> >>> >>putting antennas >> >> >>>INSIDE of a metal container is just asking for it not >>> >>> >>to radiate to the >> >> >>>outside world when you need it most :) I've often >>> >>> >>wondered why some >> >> >>>folks get so bent over an external antenna that may >>> >>> >>cost them a knot or >> >> >>>two. For God's sake, you're going 160 knots in >>> >>> >>an RV, what's 158 >> >> >>>knots? How fast does one need to go? Take it from me, >>> >>> >>my present ride >> >> >>>cruises at 65 knots or so...I'd be more than happy >>> >>> >>with 158 ;) >> >> >>>Scott >>> >>> >>> >>>John Cox wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> >> >> >>>>Bob, I am hoping that this thread actually expands >>>> >>>> >>and becomes a Big >> >> >>>>Deal, or at least bigger. >>>> >>>>I have felt for some time that the location, mount >>>> >>>> >>orientation, ground >> >> >>>>plane and attempt at concealing the antenna >>>> >>>> >>actually leads to an >> >> >>>>ineffective or nearly worthless electronic device. >>>> >>>> >>That premise was >> >> >>>>based on the 121.5 variant not the 406 however, >>>> >>>> >>because one build might >> >> >>>>have mounted it incorrectly, scores follow suit and >>>> >>>> >>then the masses >> >> >>>>drink the Kool-Aid. I have always concluded the >>>> >>>> >>function might not be >> >> >>>>important, only its presence for the DAR signoff. >>>> >>>>I have remained curious how many rescues rather >>>> >>>> >>than recoveries "after >> >> >>>>the fact" are attributed to a properly >>>> >>>> >>functioning signal and a >> >> >>>>responsible response by the parties that monitor >>>> >>>> >>the frequency (either >> >> >>>>121.5 or 406. >>>> >>>>As a ham (amateur) radio license holder this >>>> >>>> >>pursuit of concealing the >> >> >>>>antenna has always been fascinating. Do any of the >>>> >>>> >>readers have signal >> >> >>>>propagation graphs on signal strength radiating >>>> >>>> >>from inside the tin >> >> >>>can? >>> >>> >>>>John Cox >>>>Aurora, OR >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On >>>> >>>> >>Behalf Of bcollinsmn >> >> >>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:26 AM >>>>To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>>Subject: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>>> >>>> >>>> >>"bcollinsmn" <bob@rvbuildershotline.com> >> >> >>>>Yeah, I think you can. According to the >>>> >>>> >>instructions, the mounting >> >> >>>>bracket will exchange properly with the existing >>>> >>>> >>setups. I'm just >> >> >>>>curious how people are installing. When you read >>>> >>>> >>the instructions, it >> >> >>>>sounds like they want it as far in the tail as >>>> >>>> >>possible with the >> >> >>>antenna >>> >>> >>>>having this 24" ground plane. But when >>>> >>>> >>I've seen various installations, >> >> >>>>it's tucked under the baggage compartment quite >>>> >>>> >>often with the whip >> >> >>>>antenna bent around the aft side of the rollbar. >>>> >>>>According to the instrx, whatever is used, the ELT >>>> >>>> >>and the antenna >> >> >>>>should be in the same "bay". Van's >>>> >>>> >>sells that combo ELT/Strobe power >> >> >>>>supply bracket (which I used for the strobe) that >>>> >>>> >>fits on the >> >> >>>stringers, >>> >>> >>>>but that will only fit directly behind the 706 >>>> >>>> >>bulkhead. >> >> >>>>It's not big deal, I'm just interested in >>>> >>>> >>seeing various permutations >> >> >>>>before I dive in. >>>> >>>>-------- >>>>Bob Collins >>>>St. Paul, Minn. >>>>RV-7A (#&amp;^ fiberglass!) >>>>http://rvbuildershotline.com >>>>Day job: >>>>http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214539#214539 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Scott >>>http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ >>>Flying Corben Junior Ace - Building RV-4 >>>Gotta Fly or Gonna Die >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:58:44 PM PST US
    From: bert murillo <robertrv607@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel gauge
    tHANKS i WILL CHECK AGAIN, i DID ALREADY AND EVERYTHING LOOKED ok ROBERT --- On Fri, 11/21/08, JFLEISC@aol.com <JFLEISC@aol.com> wrote: > From: JFLEISC@aol.com <JFLEISC@aol.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel gauge > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 4:43 PM > I have one that does that when the gauge has a bad ground. > > Jim > **************Check out smokin hot deals on laptops, > desktops and more from > Dell. Shop Deals > ttp://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;209513277;31396581;l)


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    Time: 05:55:27 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A
    Hmmm..... Low C average & wouldn't have even been admitted if he hadn't been a 'legacy' (is that the right word?); ran multiple businesses bought for him by his daddy into the ground vs. constitutional scholar who got there on his own merits Now if you want to talk about prodigious intellect, consider those who believe that starting a unjustified and pointless war against a dime-a-dozen dictator (& causing the deaths of more Americans than died on 911) would cause every militant Muslim in the entire world to forget how to find the USA, & just walk across its unsecured southern border. Duhhh.... Let the games begin! :-) Charlie (guess again; I wrote in my vote for Ron Paul) Jerry Springer wrote: > > Well if you are going to bring politics into this forum then, I well > say the current president is not as stupid as > the one we are going to get. > I would not call a president that has kept terrorist from attacking > this country for the last 7 years stupid. > Geez for a bunch of stupid people sure is strange that we are still > the most powerful, prosperous, advanced > country in the world. WOW we are really getting change with NObama, > all the Clinton cabinet. Oh wait Nobama is going to keep > all 57 states safe. > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > bert murillo wrote: > >> >> I have always said: Ignorance and stupidity, are not the privilege,or >> peopole on third world countries. It is abounding in the USA, not >> only on >> people with no highschool education, but in the upper ladder, even >> the President of the US, has shown stupidity many times... >> >> NO sense on trying to convince people, on something they already have >> created in their minds to be true... is a waste of time. >> >> robert >> --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: Terry Watson <terry@tcwatson.com> >>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 4:34 PM >>> <terry@tcwatson.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>> SteinAir, Inc. >>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:59 PM >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>> >>> Inc." <stein@steinair.com> >>> >>> This is a question I have that is really a question...and >>> I'm not trying to >>> be fececious....I truly want to know: >>> >>> Does anyone know of (or ever heard of) any pilot who >>> crashed and died whilst >>> awaiting a rescue - someone who lived through the crash but >>> died because >>> rescuers didn't get there? What I mean is, does any of >>> you know anyone who >>> crashed, and then waited for CAP or whomever to find them? Typically I >>> usually see two results from a crash. 1) Death. 2) Non >>> Death - people live >>> through the crash and crawl/walk/run away. Perhaps there >>> are examples, I've >>> just been trying for years to find any credible for first >>> hand accounts of >>> where an ELT did or even could have saved a life.... I'm not >>> interested in >>> hearing hangar stories or "I heard of", but truly >>> credible instances. They >>> certainly must be there or we wouldn't have this whole >>> ELT discussion to >>> begin with. I'm just trying to find such examples. >>> >>> If you know, please share! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stein >>> >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >>>> >>> John Cox >>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:37 PM >>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> >>> >>>> My premise remains that after the first ineffective >>>> >>> install, others >>> >>>> followed by copying, Kool-Aid was passed, really large >>>> >>> numbers of >>> >>>> installs supported lack of viable research. The device >>>> >>> is aboard, which >>> >>>> meets the letter of the law - Chapter Closed. >>> Practical value - Zilch. >>> >>>> With 406 the discussion deserves to be opened to >>>> >>> location within the >>> >>>> aircraft, purpose of the device, mounting technique, >>>> >>> ground plane >>> >>>> effectiveness and strong signal propagation (on freq) >>>> >>> from a good >>> >>>> distance from the aircraft fuselage regardless of >>>> >>> location, orientation >>> >>>> or condition of the airframe. >>>> >>>> Bob can give this topic the light that needs to be shed >>>> >>> on the issue. >>> >>>> W7COX >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf >>>> >>> Of Scott >>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:11 AM >>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>>> >>>> >>> <acepilot@bloomer.net> >>> >>>> Well, I don't have data to back me up, but as a >>>> >>> fellow ham who dabbles >>> >>>> in the world above 50 MHz (actually, I have stuff for >>>> >>> our microwave >>> >>>> bands) and can say that a fuselage would make a >>>> >>> "decent" waveguide at >>> >>>> VHF and UHF. Waveguide is made to contain RF. I think >>>> >>> putting antennas >>> >>>> INSIDE of a metal container is just asking for it not >>>> >>> to radiate to the >>> >>>> outside world when you need it most :) I've often >>>> >>> wondered why some >>> >>>> folks get so bent over an external antenna that may >>>> >>> cost them a knot or >>> >>>> two. For God's sake, you're going 160 knots in >>>> >>> an RV, what's 158 >>> >>>> knots? How fast does one need to go? Take it from me, >>>> >>> my present ride >>> >>>> cruises at 65 knots or so...I'd be more than happy >>>> >>> with 158 ;) >>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John Cox wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> >>> >>>>> Bob, I am hoping that this thread actually expands >>>>> >>> and becomes a Big >>> >>>>> Deal, or at least bigger. >>>>> >>>>> I have felt for some time that the location, mount >>>>> >>> orientation, ground >>> >>>>> plane and attempt at concealing the antenna >>>>> >>> actually leads to an >>> >>>>> ineffective or nearly worthless electronic device. >>> That premise was >>> >>>>> based on the 121.5 variant not the 406 however, >>>>> >>> because one build might >>> >>>>> have mounted it incorrectly, scores follow suit and >>>>> >>> then the masses >>> >>>>> drink the Kool-Aid. I have always concluded the >>>>> >>> function might not be >>> >>>>> important, only its presence for the DAR signoff. >>>>> >>>>> I have remained curious how many rescues rather >>>>> >>> than recoveries "after >>> >>>>> the fact" are attributed to a properly >>>>> >>> functioning signal and a >>> >>>>> responsible response by the parties that monitor >>>>> >>> the frequency (either >>> >>>>> 121.5 or 406. >>>>> >>>>> As a ham (amateur) radio license holder this >>>>> >>> pursuit of concealing the >>> >>>>> antenna has always been fascinating. Do any of the >>>>> >>> readers have signal >>> >>>>> propagation graphs on signal strength radiating >>>>> >>> from inside the tin >>> >>>> can? >>>> >>>>> John Cox >>>>> Aurora, OR >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On >>>>> >>> Behalf Of bcollinsmn >>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:26 AM >>>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>>> Subject: RV-List: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A >>>>> >>>>> >>> "bcollinsmn" <bob@rvbuildershotline.com> >>> >>>>> Yeah, I think you can. According to the >>>>> >>> instructions, the mounting >>> >>>>> bracket will exchange properly with the existing >>>>> >>> setups. I'm just >>> >>>>> curious how people are installing. When you read >>>>> >>> the instructions, it >>> >>>>> sounds like they want it as far in the tail as >>>>> >>> possible with the >>> >>>> antenna >>>> >>>>> having this 24" ground plane. But when >>>>> >>> I've seen various installations, >>> >>>>> it's tucked under the baggage compartment quite >>>>> >>> often with the whip >>> >>>>> antenna bent around the aft side of the rollbar. >>>>> >>>>> According to the instrx, whatever is used, the ELT >>>>> >>> and the antenna >>> >>>>> should be in the same "bay". Van's >>>>> >>> sells that combo ELT/Strobe power >>> >>>>> supply bracket (which I used for the strobe) that >>>>> >>> fits on the >>> >>>> stringers, >>>> >>>>> but that will only fit directly behind the 706 >>>>> >>> bulkhead. >>> >>>>> It's not big deal, I'm just interested in >>>>> >>> seeing various permutations >>> >>>>> before I dive in. >>>>> >>>>> -------- >>>>> Bob Collins >>>>> St. Paul, Minn. >>>>> RV-7A (#&amp;^ fiberglass!) >>>>> http://rvbuildershotline.com >>>>> Day job: >>>>> http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=214539#214539


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    Time: 07:56:30 PM PST US
    From: HCRV6@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Pedal plane kits
    Thanks GV, I should pay closer attention. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 527 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: Vanremog@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:27:31 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: RV-List: Pedal plane kits Harry- He is in every Sport Aviation magazine. http://www.pedalplanekits.com -GV In a message dated 11/20/2008 10:02:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, HCRV6@comcast.net writes: Not to digress too far from the recent ELT thread but does anyone have the contact information for the guy who displays the child pedal planes at Air Venture. I'm particularly interested in the hardware and plans sets that I understand he sells.


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    Time: 08:48:35 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A
    Jerry- I'm pretty sure it's dark up where you are trying to go with this one. I'll just pass on this bait. Do not archive N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 908hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley) In a message dated 11/21/2008 2:26:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jsflyrv@verizon.net writes: Well if you are going to bring politics into this forum then, I well say the current president is not as stupid as the one we are going to get. **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)


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    Time: 10:42:02 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A
    I guess you don't read so well, I am not trying to go anywhere with this, just responding to another stupid post about people and the presidents stupidity. Didn't see you respond to his post, but then I don't suppose you would as it agrees with your opinions. Then again if you think it was bait why did you respond at all???? Just could not help your self could you Gary? do not archive > Jerry- > > I'm pretty sure it's dark up where you are trying to go with this > one. I'll just pass on this bait. > > Do not archive > > N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 908hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley) > > In a message dated 11/21/2008 2:26:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jsflyrv@verizon.net writes: > > Well if you are going to bring politics into this forum then, I > well say > the current president is not as stupid as > the one we are going to get. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and > the things you love. Try the new AOL.com > today! > >


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    Time: 11:09:33 PM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: ARTEX 406 ELT in a 7A
    Perhaps this should be moved to one of the hundreds of political forums on the web and leave this one to RV building. My $.02 worth and not worth a penny more. David Maib RV-10 40559 Nearly finished On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: I guess you don't read so well, I am not trying to go anywhere with this, just responding to another stupid post about people and the presidents stupidity. Didn't see you respond to his post, but then I don't suppose you would as it agrees with your opinions. Then again if you think it was bait why did you respond at all???? Just could not help your self could you Gary? do not archive > Jerry- > I'm pretty sure it's dark up where you are trying to go with this > one. I'll just pass on this bait. > Do not archive > N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 908hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley) > In a message dated 11/21/2008 2:26:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jsflyrv@verizon.net writes: > > Well if you are going to bring politics into this forum then, I > well say > the current president is not as stupid as > the one we are going to get. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and > the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today! > >




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