---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/09/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:34 AM - Re: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND (Kevin Horton) 2. 10:40 AM - Re: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND (Ulrich Wiedmann) 3. 12:03 PM - Re: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND (Doug Gray) 4. 12:17 PM - Test Do Not Archive (Bob Perkinson) 5. 01:58 PM - Re: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND (John Brick) 6. 06:12 PM - AE FPS-Plus Help Wanted (Bob Perkinson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:18 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND Pretty much any aircraft piston engine power chart shows that the power does increase with altitude, IF the manifold pressure and rpm are constant. But, if you have full throttle, the manifold pressure will decrease with altitude, and thus the power will decrease. Kevin Horton On 8-Dec-08, at 11:21 , John Jessen wrote: > Power increase as you go higher? I'm confused (which is normal). > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Jack Hilditch > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:04 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND > > You might want to have a look at this URL: > > http://3limafoxtrot.com/doc/PercentPowerEntriesO360A.pdf > > > Jack Hilditch > RV-9A project > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:27 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND > > Should be almost identical, since both engines have the same > cylinders and power ratings. > > Tim Bryan wrote: > And so if they are still lurking, I would love to have this chart > for the O-360-A1A. > > Tim Bryan > RV-6 Flying > N616TB over 120 hours now > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of J Riffel > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:34 AM > To: rv-list > Subject: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND > > A kind sole at Lycoming saw the RV post and sent this - which is > EXACTLY what I was looking for. So I thought I'd share: > > -- Kevin Horton Ottawa, Canada ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:24 AM PST US From: "Ulrich Wiedmann" Subject: Re: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND Note that the tables are given for standard temperature: meaning at higher altitudes the temperature is lower. Same manifold pressure + lower temperature = more air. This is probably the main factor in increased power at altitude. Lower pumping losses (because maintaining a given manifold pressure at a higher altitude requires a more open throttle) contribute. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Kevin Horton wrote: > > Pretty much any aircraft piston engine power chart shows that the power > does increase with altitude, IF the manifold pressure and rpm are constant. > But, if you have full throttle, the manifold pressure will decrease with > altitude, and thus the power will decrease. > > Kevin Horton > > > On 8-Dec-08, at 11:21 , John Jessen wrote: > > Power increase as you go higher? I'm confused (which is normal). >> >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Hilditch >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:04 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND >> >> You might want to have a look at this URL: >> >> http://3limafoxtrot.com/doc/PercentPowerEntriesO360A.pdf >> >> >> Jack Hilditch >> RV-9A project >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:27 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND >> >> Should be almost identical, since both engines have the same cylinders and >> power ratings. >> >> Tim Bryan wrote: >> And so if they are still lurking, I would love to have this chart for the >> O-360-A1A. >> >> Tim Bryan >> RV-6 Flying >> N616TB over 120 hours now >> >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J Riffel >> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:34 AM >> To: rv-list >> Subject: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND >> >> A kind sole at Lycoming saw the RV post and sent this - which is EXACTLY >> what I was looking for. So I thought I'd share: >> >> >> >> > > -- > Kevin Horton > Ottawa, Canada > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:59 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND From: Doug Gray On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 09:11 -0600, Tim Bryan wrote: > And so if they are still lurking, I would love to have this chart for > the O-360-A1A. > And for an O-320D1A.... ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:55 PM PST US From: "Bob Perkinson" Subject: RV-List: Test Do Not Archive Test Only Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:35 PM PST US From: "John Brick" Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND At 65% and 2100 rpm, power stays constant while climbing at FT. Seems to contradict Kevin Horton. Is the chart correct? Fuel and Power Chart - Lycoming Model IO-360-B1B, -B1D, -B1E, -E1A, - B1A Press. Alt. 1000 Ft Std. Alt. Temp. Fo 99 Hp - 55% Rated Fuel Flow 45 Lb/Hr RPM & MAP 117 HP - 65% Rated Fuel Flow 50 Lb/Hr RPM & MAP 135 HP-75%Rated Fuel Flow 60 Lb/Hr RPM & MAP 2100 2200 2300 2400 2100 2200 2300 2400 2200 2300 2400 SL 59 21.2 20.7 20.2 19.7 24.0 23.4 22.8 22.2 26.0 25.4 24.7 1 55 21.0 20.5 20.0 19.5 23.8 23.2 22.5 22.0 25.8 25.1 24.5 2 52 20.7 20.3 19.7 19.3 23.5 22.9 22.3 21.8 25.5 24.8 24.2 3 48 20.5 20.0 19.5 19.1 23.2 22.7 22.0 21.5 25.3 24.6 24.0 4 45 20.3 19.8 19.3 18.9 23.0 22.5 21.8 21.3 25.1 24.3 23.8 5 41 20.0 19.6 19.1 18.6 22.7 22.2 21.6 21.1 FT 24.1 23.5 6 38 19.8 19.4 18.9 18.4 22.5 22.0 21.3 20.9 FT 23.3 7 34 19.6 19.2 18.7 18.2 22.0 21.8 21.1 20.7 FT 8 31 19.3 18.9 18.4 18.0 FT 21.5 20.9 20.5 9 27 19.1 18.6 18.3 17.8 17.4 FT 10 23 18.9 18.4 18.1 17.6 17.2 11 19 18.6 FT 17.8 17.4 17.0 12 16 18.4 FT 17.1 16.8 13 12 FT To Maintain constant power, correct manifold pressure approximately 0.17"hg. For each 10F variation in carburetor air temperature from standard altitude temperature. Add manifold pressure for air temperatures above standard; subtract for temperatures below standard -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Horton Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: IO-360 -b Series Power Chart - FOUND Pretty much any aircraft piston engine power chart shows that the power does increase with altitude, IF the manifold pressure and rpm are constant. But, if you have full throttle, the manifold pressure will decrease with altitude, and thus the power will decrease. Kevin Horton ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:58 PM PST US From: "Bob Perkinson" Subject: RV-List: AE FPS-Plus Help Wanted I recently obtained, second-handedly, an Aircraft Extras FPS-Plus (One of the Earlier Flap Position modules). The seller didnt have the Users manual so I am asking if anyone out there has an electronic copy of the Users Manual, or detailed operating instructions for this controller that they could send me. Any and all help is appreciated. 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