---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/25/08: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:46 AM - GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Ralph E. Capen) 2. 07:15 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tim Bryan) 3. 07:28 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Ralph E. Capen) 4. 07:40 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Randy Hooper) 5. 08:09 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tim Bryan) 6. 08:21 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (RV6 Flyer) 7. 08:34 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 8. 08:44 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Peter Hudes) 9. 08:50 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tim Bryan) 10. 08:50 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tim Bryan) 11. 09:05 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Michael Kraus) 12. 09:20 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (RV6 Flyer) 13. 09:22 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (RV6 Flyer) 14. 09:31 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tim Bryan) 15. 09:32 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Tim Bryan) 16. 11:58 AM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Ralph E. Capen) 17. 02:08 PM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Kelly McMullen) 18. 02:20 PM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Sam Buchanan) 19. 02:34 PM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (Kelly McMullen) 20. 02:44 PM - Re: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? (RV6 Flyer) 21. 06:23 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Selection (dick martin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:16 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Folks, I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. Am I required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? Thanks, Ralph RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for the weather...... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:41 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 years. When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? Do Not Archive Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TBover 120 hours now > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > Folks, > > I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > Am I > required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? > > Thanks, > Ralph > RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > the > weather...... > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:18 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Tim, The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it here. Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bryan" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > years. > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > Do Not Archive > > Tim Bryan > RV-6 Flying > N616TB over 120 hours now > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? >> >> >> Folks, >> >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. >> Am I >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft >> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? >> >> Thanks, >> Ralph >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for >> the >> weather...... >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:56 AM PST US From: "Randy Hooper" Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? No log requirement. The current data base will be indicated on your unit. Randy Hooper On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Ralph E. Capen wrote: > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from Garmin > - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > >> >> Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 >> years. >> When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? >> Do Not Archive >> >> Tim Bryan >> RV-6 Flying >> N616TB over 120 hours now >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- >>> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen >>> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? >>> >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. >>> Am I >>> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft >>> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ralph >>> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for >>> the >>> weather...... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Randy Hooper ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:05 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Thanks Ralph, I may just buy a one time update soon to get it caught back up. I am definitely going to replace the card since I am having some reboot problems and have heard it could be related to the card size. Also I would love to find someone local that knows how to work the GX60 for IFR so I could get some hands on. We got left behind for purchasing GPS training software for the GX series. How did you figure this all out? Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TBover 120 hours now > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 9:22 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first > thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > Do Not Archive > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:10 AM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu=2C 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim=2C > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis=2C the first thin g > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph=2C I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high=2C is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > > >> > >> Folks=2C > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so=2C What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks=2C > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map=2C no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anyw here_122008 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:36 AM PST US From: Tom & Cathy Ervin Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? =C2-Is something in the aftermarket available for the Garmin 430? Those c ards are also very pricey! =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- Thanks, Tom in Ohio=C2- ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV6 Flyer" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:20:14 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail=C2=AE account no ======================= ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:43 AM PST US From: Peter Hudes Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Gary, Did you have to format the card or was it useable the way you received it? Pete Hudes On Dec 25, 2008, at 8:20 AM, RV6 Flyer wrote: > I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: > > http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html > > Gary A. Sobek > "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, > 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:10 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hi Gary, I had heard some had problems with the 4MB card size. Has this worked OK for you rather than upgrading to an 8MB card. Thanks Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... _____ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail R account now. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:55 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? The card isn=99t so bad, but the update service is costly. Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom & Cathy Ervin Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Is something in the aftermarket available for the Garmin 430? Those cards are also very pricey! Thanks, Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV6 Flyer" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:20:14 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... _____ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail=C2=AE account now. www.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ; http://forums.matronics.com ============ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:18 AM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I do believe you need to have an input in your log book for the GPS update to be IFR legal, like Ralph mentions, but I do not know the exact wording. Also, Garmin had a GX simulator on their website at one time. I do not know if it is still there or not, but I do have a copy I could send out when I return home next week if it is no longer there. It is not a training device (it will not teach you how to use it) but it does allow you to play with the different screens and stuff from your computer. Merry Christmas to all!! -Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Tim Bryan Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Thanks Ralph, I may just buy a one time update soon to get it caught back up. I am definitely going to replace the card since I am having some reboot problems and have heard it could be related to the card size. Also I would love to find someone local that knows how to work the GX60 for IFR so I could get some hands on. We got left behind for purchasing GPS training software for the GX series. How did you figure this all out? Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TBover 120 hours now > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 9:22 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first > thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > Do Not Archive > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:40 AM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Plug it into the Jeppsen Skybound programmer and program it off the interne t. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: phudes@ix.netcom.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu=2C 25 Dec 2008 08:42:00 -0800 > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > > Gary=2C > > Did you have to format the card or was it useable the way you > received it? > > Pete Hudes > > On Dec 25=2C 2008=2C at 8:20 AM=2C RV6 Flyer wrote: > > > I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: > > > > http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html > > > > Gary A. Sobek > > "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C > > 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer=2C easier=2C and more enjoyable with Windows Vista =AE. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:03 AM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Have not heard of anyone having problems with the 4 Meg cards. I know of ab out 6 that have gone with cards from the link I posted with NO reported pro blems. I got the link and then card from this list years ago when the issu e of 2 Meg cards being too small first came up. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA From: n616tb@btsapps.com Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hi Gary=2C I had heard some had problems with the 4MB card size. Has this worked OK for you rather than upgrading to an 8MB card. Thanks Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 10:20 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu=2C 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim=2C > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis=2C the first thin g > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph=2C I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high=2C is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > >> > >> Folks=2C > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so=2C What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks=2C > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... Send e-mail anywhere. No map=2C no compass. Get your Hotmail=AE account now. http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?R V-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map=2C no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anyw here_122008 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:49 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Ah, maybe that was it; 2Mg rather than 4Mg. Do Not Archive Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Have not heard of anyone having problems with the 4 Meg cards. I know of about 6 that have gone with cards from the link I posted with NO reported problems. I got the link and then card from this list years ago when the issue of 2 Meg cards being too small first came up. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA _____ From: n616tb@btsapps.com Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hi Gary, I had heard some had problems with the 4MB card size. Has this worked OK for you rather than upgrading to an 8MB card. Thanks Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... _____ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your HotmailR account now. http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:32:00 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hmmm. the Jeppesen site shows 2MB, 4MB, or 8MB PCMCIA memory card for the GX60, but the MX20 is only listed as Compact Flash (approved style only) I only find a 32MB and up in the PCMCIA ATA style. The link Gary provided shows a 4MB Compact Flash that would work in the MX20 and they also have an 8MB Cisco approved style for 44.00 Gary do you have an MX20? Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hi Gary, I had heard some had problems with the 4MB card size. Has this worked OK for you rather than upgrading to an 8MB card. Thanks Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,174+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim, > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first thing > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so, What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... _____ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail R account now. http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:58:02 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I haven't figured it all out yet - Essentially, what I did was to look for instructions for what I wanted to do. I'm guessing that I'm not even scratching the surface on its capabilities. I'll be looking for the simulator software posted by Michael Kraus...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bryan" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > Thanks Ralph, > > I may just buy a one time update soon to get it caught back up. I am > definitely going to replace the card since I am having some reboot > problems > and have heard it could be related to the card size. Also I would love to > find someone local that knows how to work the GX60 for IFR so I could get > some hands on. We got left behind for purchasing GPS training software > for > the GX series. How did you figure this all out? > > Tim Bryan > RV-6 Flying > N616TB over 120 hours now > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 9:22 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? >> >> >> Tim, >> >> The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm >> planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. >> If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis, the first >> thing >> you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from >> Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it >> here. >> >> Ralph >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tim Bryan" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:12 AM >> Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? >> >> >> > >> > Ralph, I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 >> > years. >> > When I last checked the cost was pretty high, is this better now? >> > Do Not Archive >> > >> > Tim Bryan >> > RV-6 Flying >> > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:59 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? That display on the unit does not meet the requirements of Part 43. You need a record that meets 43.9 if you want the unit legal for IFR. Randy Hooper wrote: > No log requirement. The current data base will be indicated on your unit. > > Randy Hooper > > *===================================== > * ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:20:44 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Kelly McMullen wrote: > > That display on the unit does not meet the requirements of Part 43. You > need a record that meets 43.9 if you want the unit legal for IFR. Is 43.9 applicable to aircraft with an experimental airworthiness certificate? Sam Buchanan > > Randy Hooper wrote: >> No log requirement. The current data base will be indicated on your unit. >> >> Randy Hooper >> ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:31 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? For items that have to meet a TSO, like ELTs and IFR GPSs yes. Sam Buchanan wrote: > > Kelly McMullen wrote: >> >> That display on the unit does not meet the requirements of Part 43. >> You need a record that meets 43.9 if you want the unit legal for IFR. > > > Is 43.9 applicable to aircraft with an experimental airworthiness > certificate? > > Sam Buchanan > > >> >> Randy Hooper wrote: >>> No log requirement. The current data base will be indicated on your >>> unit. >>> >>> Randy Hooper >>> > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:34 PM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Negative on the MX20. Only the GX60. The SL30 does not use a data card. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA From: n616tb@btsapps.com Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hmmm=85 the Jeppesen site shows 2MB=2C 4MB=2C or 8MB PCMCIA memory card for the GX60=2C but the MX20 is only listed as Compact Flash (approved styl e only) I only find a 32MB and up in the PCMCIA ATA style. The link Gary provided shows a 4MB Compact Flash that would work in the MX20 and they als o have an 8MB Cisco approved style for 44.00 Gary do you have an MX20? Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 10:49 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? Hi Gary=2C I had heard some had problems with the 4MB card size. Has this worked OK for you rather than upgrading to an 8MB card. Thanks Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 10:20 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? I purchased my 4 Meg replacement card for my GX60 here: http://www.memorydealers.com/4mbcis36serf.html Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C174+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > Date: Thu=2C 25 Dec 2008 10:21:38 -0500 > > > Tim=2C > > The cost is still astronomical! The only reason I'm doing it is I'm > planning to get my IFR training and ticket in my 6A. > If you decide to start updating them on a regular basis=2C the first thin g > you'll need is a new 4MB flash card for the GX60 - don't get it from > Garmin - they want a mint.....I'll dig out where I got mine and post it > here. > > Ralph > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bryan" > To: > Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > > > > > > Ralph=2C I also have a GX60 & MX20 but have not updated them for over 2 > > years. > > When I last checked the cost was pretty high=2C is this better now? > > > > Tim Bryan > > RV-6 Flying > > N616TB over 120 hours now > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > >> Sent: Thursday=2C December 25=2C 2008 8:38 AM > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B avionics-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RV-List: GX60/MX20 monthly - require Logbook entry? > >> > >> > >> Folks=2C > >> > >> I get monthly Jeppesen updates for my GX60 and MX20 GPS map displays. > >> Am I > >> required to log the software revision and install date in the aircraft > >> logbook? If so=2C What would the entr look like? > >> > >> Thanks=2C > >> Ralph > >> RV6A N822AR 0hrs getting ready for refresher training and waiting for > >> the > >> weather...... Send e-mail anywhere. No map=2C no compass. Get your Hotmail=AE account now. http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator ?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contributio nhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed _122008 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:02 PM PST US From: "dick martin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil Cooler Selection Dwight, When I built my RV8 .IO360AlB6 ten years ago and converted to IO390AlB6 5 years ago, I experienced the same problems you are encountering. Van supplied the Positeck oil cooler and suggested firewall mounting. This was a disaster. No matter what I did, it overheated immediately. I live in Wisconsin where it is cold. I then tried another popular cooler and mounted it on the back of cyl 4. It worked better, but still hot. After talking to friends in the race group, I found that they had all been there and done that to no avail. The solution is a Niagara/Harrison (now called Niagara) 10 row cooler mounted on the back of Cyl 4 as high as possible and tilted down towards the cowling outlet as much as possible. Approx 30 to 45 degrees. The reason for the tilt is that when the outflow is directed down towards the cowl outlet at the bottom of the cowl, it reduces the back pressure and turbulance that is induced by directing the flow back to the firewall and then down and out. Depending on your engine installation, you will be able to obtain between 30 and 45 degrees down tilt before the engine mount interfers with the oil cooler. Good luck. If you want to discuss this, do not email me, as I do not always monitor the internet. Call me @ 920 619 6968 cell anytime, central time until 1-1 2009, eastern time after, I will be in Spruce Creek Airpark in Florida January thru April 2009. Dick Martin RV8 N233M the fast one ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight Frye" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: RV-List: Oil Cooler Selection > > I am building an RV-7, and am installing the 180HP XP-360 engine with > an Airflow Performance FI system. I got the stock/standard oil cooler > in my firewall-forward package (Van's part "EA OIL COOLER II"). > > Reading comments from others my impression is that the -7s have a > tendency to run hot. I'm curious as to the impression other on the list > have about the best oil cooler to run with the setup I intend to install. > Right NOW is the time for me to make a decision, as I'm just starting > to do some baffle work. > > Clearly, if I stick with the existing cooler I can baffle-mount it, > but if I switch to the larger Stewart/Warner style ol cooler (Van's > part "EA OIL COOLER 20006A") I'll need to firewall mount the cooler > and the baffle behind the #4 cylinder will need a fitting for four > inch SCAT hose. > > So ... whats the collected wisdom on this issue, folks? Chime in if > you have experiences one way or the other. And ... thanks! > > -- Dwight Frye > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.