---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/19/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:58 AM - Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals (Rick Galati) 2. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals (Brian Huffaker) 3. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals (scott bilinski) 4. 02:18 PM - Re: N822AR First flight report (John Jessen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:27 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals From: "Rick Galati" bifft(at)xmission.com wrote: > Putting these into my plane, using the forward most position it looks like there isn't much deflection available before the brake fitting hits the firewall.....I do need all the legroom I can get. Thanks for any advice. Brian Huffaker, Brian, You don't say how far along you are in the assembly or even how recent your kit is. If it is a newer kit and this is very important...you STILL have interior access through the subfloor, consider upgrading to the cockpit adjustable option. I decided to upgrade during the build and quickly discovered the only real difference between the two rudder pedal options are small hardware items. The expensive weldments are common to both options....again I emphasize....in the NEWER kits. Using a spring loaded lanyard, I can easily reach down and adjust rudder travel in 1" increments ranging from full aft to full forward. Nice feature when you want to stretch your legs out on those long cross country flights. I also installed those small brake fluid reservoirs behind each pedal yet there is still adequate clearance with the firewall when the pedals are located in the full forward position and the brakes depressed. In practice though, I find the most comfortable location for the pedals is full aft or 1" from full aft. At 5'9" tall, I can barely reach the petals when locked fully forward. Certainly, optimum rudder pedal location will naturally vary with each individual's needs. If interested, consult with Van's to determine if changing over is the right decision for you. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225636#225636 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:05 AM PST US From: Brian Huffaker Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Rick Galati wrote: > > > You don't say how far along you are in the assembly or even how recent >your kit is. If it is a newer kit and this is very important...you STILL >have interior access through the subfloor, consider upgrading to the >cockpit adjustable option. I decided to upgrade during the build and >quickly discovered the only real difference between the two rudder pedal >options are small hardware items. The expensive weldments are common to >both options....again I emphasize....in the NEWER kits. Using a spring Fairly far along, the only thing I've left to rivit on the fuse is the floor and the top forward skin. Leaving the top forward skin off for better access while hooking up engine and instruments. Just got it on the gear: http://www.xmission.com/~bifft/temp/gear.htm > s is full aft or 1" from full aft. At 5'9" tall, I can barely reach >the petals when locked fully forward. Certainly, optimum rudder pedal >location will naturally vary with each individual's needs. If interested, >consult with Van's to determine if changing over is the right decision >for you. At moderatly long legged 6'4", in Van's demonstrator RV-8's my knees just hit the panel with the pedals all the way forward. I've put in the tall pilot mod, so I expect I'll be all right in mine, but do want to get the pedals forward if I can. Don't know what the new ones look like, but the old ajustable pedals had a large weldment that they slid on, I don't mind losing that weight. Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com) RV-8A 80091 Fabricating brake lines. 1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:36 AM PST US From: scott bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals Im 6'3" had the pedals full forward and when applying full rudder and brake my shoe and rudder pedal hit the firewall. It was not a problem for years but decided to change it beforeit became one, so I moved it 1 notch closer. Note that I have extra insulation on the inside of the firewall which added maybe .125 in thickness. Scott RV-8a ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Huffaker Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:29:27 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Rv-8 Ground adjustable rudder pedals On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Rick Galati wrote: > > > You don't say how far along you are in the assembly or even how recent >your kit is. If it is a newer kit and this is very important...you STILL >have interior access through the subfloor, consider upgrading to the >cockpit adjustable option. I decided to upgrade during the build and >quickly discovered the only real difference between the two rudder pedal >options are small hardware items. The expensive weldments are common to >both options....again I emphasize....in the NEWER kits. Using a spring Fairly far along, the only thing I've left to rivit on the fuse is the floor and the top forward skin. Leaving the top forward skin off for better access while hooking up engine and instruments. Just got it on the gear: http://www.xmission.com/~bifft/temp/gear.htm > s is full aft or 1" from full aft. At 5'9" tall, I can barely reach >the petals when locked fully forward. Certainly, optimum rudder pedal >location will naturally vary with each individual's needs. If interested, >consult with Van's to determine if changing over is the right decision >for you. At moderatly long legged 6'4", in Van's demonstrator RV-8's my knees just hit the panel with the pedals all the way forward. I've put in the tall pilot mod, so I expect I'll be all right in mine, but do want to get the pedals forward if I can. Don't know what the new ones look like, but the old ajustable pedals had a large weldment that they slid on, I don't mind losing that weight. Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com) RV-8A 80091 Fabricating brake lines. 1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:35 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV-List: N822AR First flight report Excellent! Congratulations! John _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: RV-List: N822AR First flight report Saturday, 17 Jan 2009. The thermometer says 1 F - so does the forecast - but also calls for no wind.... Get to the airport to make final preparations. The temp comes up to 14 F. The heater has been keeping the engine block and oil warm all night - oil temp 69 F...good sign. Make sure my guardian-angel is with me..... Pull the airplane out to the fueling pad and put in ten gallons per side....with the three per side already in there, I have a total of 26 gallons of fuel. Enough for two hours with reserve....I'm only planning for a 20 minute flight - but I don't want to take any chances. Do the preflight briefing with Ross Cook (Cessna 150 two hangars down - he's also helped on the two-man list). Ross is manning the handheld radio and keeping my observers (Dover and Rich from NJ and my wife Alane) informed of what's going on. Crank the engine to get the oil pumping - then normal start and a restart (it's still only 17 F). Idle normal, comm check - little glitch - handheld is on wrong freq and pressing wrong button to transmit. Bad brief on my part...... Comm's fixed - test the brakes OK! Run-up and taxi to verify the integrity of the scuba-suit hoses connecting the cowl rings to the plenum OK! Another run-up - everythings in the green - radio call for the runway and last look around. Roll out to the runway and add some throttle to start rolling - airspeed is alive. Feed in the rest of the power and rudder...little back pressure on the stick to get the nosewheel off just a bit....too late, I'm already flying. Lower the nose so I can see where I'm going - still climbing at 100 kts and the engine is at 2700 RPM so I back that off just a little. At about 1500' I get a radio call from the ground - 'we can barely see you'. Start a circling climb to 3000' then pull the throttle back - then raise the nose to drop some airspeed for a stall test. Clean break right at 55kts. Settle back to cruise - return to the airport. Circle once and set up to land. 90 kts - first 10 degrees of flaps - turn base - next 10 degrees of flaps - settle - add a burp of power to hold altitude for a couple of seconds - runway made - throttle to idle. Little flare, mains touch and settle a little, hold the nose up. Didn't need the brakes till I got back to the hangar area. Taxi back to the fueling pad and shut down....Alane meets me there and it's time for the RV Grin! Get the airplane put back in the hangar and prepare to celebrate - Alane calls my mother then hands me the phone after a pre-brief. Alane runs off to get a bottle of bubbly. Sunday, I'll download data from the engine monitor and take the cowl off and look for stuff that's out of place before the next flight. Thanks to my observers, I have videos of both the takeoff and landing - in addition to plenty of pictures like these. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.