RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/30/09


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 05:56 AM - Re: Drop tank (Tim Bryan)
     2. 05:57 AM - Re: Drop tank (RV4WGH@aol.com)
     3. 08:49 AM - Re: Drop tank (Bill Boyd)
     4. 09:45 AM - Re: Drop tank (Terry Watson)
     5. 11:47 AM - Re: Drop tank (John Jessen)
     6. 01:04 PM - Re: Drop tank (Bob J.)
     7. 01:40 PM - Whelan white position light (Shemp)
     8. 04:04 PM - Re: Whelan white position light (Bruce Gray)
     9. 04:52 PM - Re: Drop tank (John Fasching)
    10. 07:52 PM - Re: Whelan white position light (Neal George)
    11. 09:23 PM - Re: Whelan white position light (Greg Young)
    12. 09:45 PM - Re: Drop tank (Paul Besing)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:56:21 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Drop tank
    Well, here is one reason. I have fuel at my hangar and can refuel my own plane. If I fly 2 hours to somewhere and the fuel cost is high or they have no fuel then I end up needing to fly somewhere else to get fuel. Sometimes that fly somewhere else cost a bunch also. It isn't that I need 5 or 6 hours in the air, but I would find great convenience in being able to fly somewhere for that $ hamburger and still get back home without having to go chase fuel every time. Just another perspective. I do not have long range tanks, but have thought about it often; but just for the convenience. Do Not Archive Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:53 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank For me, 2 1/2 hours in an RV-4 was plenty. On a 6 you have 3 1/2....why anyone would want the complexity and drag, and work required to install on a -6 that has 600 miles (or more) on one leg is beyond me! Paul Besing -3 hour bladder _____ From: Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:42:13 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Drop tank Doesn't the "drop" only have to do with how you fill them? Drop them to fill them and then lift them back into place. Plus when you don't need them you just leave them in the hangar; yes? Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV4WGH@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank The post on the T-18 web site says they are not "drop" tanks. Just 5 extra gallons if your badder can handle it! Wally Hunt Rockford, IL RV-4 Finishing Kit http://www.matro==================== <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> Forum - Navigator to browse List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List


    Message 2


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    Time: 05:57:21 AM PST US
    From: RV4WGH@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Drop tank
    That's why are airplanes are called "experimental". We can experiment with about anything we like. Tom obviously, was looking for more fuel capacity. T-18's with standard tanks only carry 29 gallons of fuel. Some have added fuel in the wing which greatly increases capacity. However, not an option for retrofit. Wally Hunt **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62)


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    Time: 08:49:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Drop tank
    From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
    I understand Tim's reasoning. My $1.89 high-test is in the hangar, not at the distant airport. But sometimes I do make point of picking up a little 100LL on the road, so to speak, just to keep things leaded-up and vapor-pressured-down. -Bill Boyd 6A 740hrs On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: > Well, here is one reason. I have fuel at my hangar and can refuel my own > plane. If I fly 2 hours to somewhere and the fuel cost is high or they have > no fuel then I end up needing to fly somewhere else to get fuel. Sometimes > that fly somewhere else cost a bunch also. It isn't that I need 5 or 6 > hours in the air, but I would find great convenience in being able to fly > somewhere for that $ hamburger and still get back home without having to go > chase fuel every time. > > > Just another perspective. I do not have long range tanks, but have thought > about it often; but just for the convenience. > > Do Not Archive > > > *Tim Bryan* > > *RV-6 Flying* > > *N616TB over 120 hours now* > > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Besing > *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2009 12:53 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Drop tank > > > For me, 2 1/2 hours in an RV-4 was plenty. On a 6 you have 3 1/2....why > anyone would want the complexity and drag, and work required to install on a > -6 that has 600 miles (or more) on one leg is beyond me! > > Paul Besing > -3 hour bladder > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:42:13 AM > *Subject:* RE: RV-List: Drop tank > > Doesn't the "drop" only have to do with how you fill them? Drop them to > fill them and then lift them back into place. Plus when you don't need them > you just leave them in the hangar; yes? > > > *Tim Bryan* > > *RV-6 Flying* > > *N616TB over 120 hours now* > > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV4WGH@aol.com > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:40 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Drop tank > > > The post on the T-18 web site says they are not "drop" tanks. Just 5 extra > gallons if your badder can handle it! > > > Wally Hunt > > Rockford, IL > > RV-4 Finishing Kit > > > * * > > *http://www.matro==================== <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>* > > * <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > * * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:45:48 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: Drop tank
    Alaska to Washington along the coast is one reason mentioned. You can get auxiliary bladders too. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:53 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank For me, 2 1/2 hours in an RV-4 was plenty. On a 6 you have 3 1/2....why anyone would want the complexity and drag, and work required to install on a -6 that has 600 miles (or more) on one leg is beyond me! Paul Besing -3 hour bladder


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    Time: 11:47:06 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Subject: Drop tank
    Is that high test without corn? _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:14 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank I understand Tim's reasoning. My $1.89 high-test is in the hangar, not at the distant airport. But sometimes I do make point of picking up a little 100LL on the road, so to speak, just to keep things leaded-up and vapor-pressured-down. -Bill Boyd 6A 740hrs On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Well, here is one reason. I have fuel at my hangar and can refuel my own plane. If I fly 2 hours to somewhere and the fuel cost is high or they have no fuel then I end up needing to fly somewhere else to get fuel. Sometimes that fly somewhere else cost a bunch also. It isn't that I need 5 or 6 hours in the air, but I would find great convenience in being able to fly somewhere for that $ hamburger and still get back home without having to go chase fuel every time. Just another perspective. I do not have long range tanks, but have thought about it often; but just for the convenience. Do Not Archive Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:53 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank For me, 2 1/2 hours in an RV-4 was plenty. On a 6 you have 3 1/2....why anyone would want the complexity and drag, and work required to install on a -6 that has 600 miles (or more) on one leg is beyond me! Paul Besing -3 hour bladder _____ From: Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:42:13 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Drop tank Doesn't the "drop" only have to do with how you fill them? Drop them to fill them and then lift them back into place. Plus when you don't need them you just leave them in the hangar; yes? Tim Bryan RV-6 Flying N616TB over 120 hours now From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV4WGH@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank The post on the T-18 web site says they are not "drop" tanks. Just 5 extra gallons if your badder can handle it! Wally Hunt Rockford, IL RV-4 Finishing Kit http://www.matro==================== <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 01:04:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Drop tank
    From: "Bob J." <rocketbob@gmail.com>
    I'm no iron butt (or bladder) either however the answer is simple, and its got to do with that old guy Murphy. Lets say you're on a trip, its late in the evening because you're running behind, and your 3 hour planned stop goes to shit because of the weather and none of the airports nearby have a credit card pump. Couple that with the possibility of being stuck for a few days with deteriorating weather if you decide to stop and spend the night. So you have to press on, perhaps an hour or more down the road to the next place that has gas and its available. That's when you want aux tanks. Been there done that, that's why I have aux tanks in my rocket in addition to the 52 gallon tanks. It just gives you more options; most of the time they'll stay empty except for the long trips. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. do not archive > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Besing > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:53 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Drop tank > > > For me, 2 1/2 hours in an RV-4 was plenty. On a 6 you have 3 1/2....why > anyone would want the complexity and drag, and work required to install on a > -6 that has 600 miles (or more) on one leg is beyond me! > > Paul Besing > -3 hour bladder > > > * > > > * > >


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    Time: 01:40:52 PM PST US
    From: Shemp <shempdowling@gmail.com>
    Subject: Whelan white position light
    Just wondering if anyone knows if the rear white light bulb on the whelan wingtip combo strobe/position light is a standard bulb or do I have to pay 18 bucks for the thing. tia Jeff Shemp Dowling


    Message 8


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    Time: 04:04:02 PM PST US
    From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
    Subject: Whelan white position light
    I believe it's non-standard. Bruce www.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shemp Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: RV-List: Whelan white position light Just wondering if anyone knows if the rear white light bulb on the whelan wingtip combo strobe/position light is a standard bulb or do I have to pay 18 bucks for the thing. tia Jeff Shemp Dowling


    Message 9


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    Time: 04:52:45 PM PST US
    From: "John Fasching" <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
    Subject: Re: Drop tank
    Simply as a project I built an auxiliary fuel tank to mount in my RV6A in place of a passengter. It was shaped to fit in that area and holds 18 gallons. I was happy to have it, because my main tanks began to show the dreaded pealing of the slosh material. As I was waiting for Johnson to make me two new tanks I flew for several months using only that aux tank, and it took a while to get used to have fuel right next to me. With the aux tank plus mains I could carry 56 gallons, and at a burn at 6.1 gph I could get 9-hours, 10 minutes until fuel exhaustion. M\y aim was non-stop from central Colorado to Oshkosh. ... never did it but the project was interesting.... FWIW John


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    Time: 07:52:35 PM PST US
    From: "Neal George" <n8zg@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Whelan white position light
    Shemp - This one looks remarkably similar to an automotive turn signal / marker light. It's marked: SYL ERC Or maybe it's SYL ERG The receptacle is marked: TP20 - (bulb type?) Neal Just wondering if anyone knows if the rear white light bulb on the whelan wingtip combo strobe/position light is a standard bulb or do I have to pay 18 bucks for the thing. tia Jeff Shemp Dowling


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    Time: 09:23:16 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
    Subject: Whelan white position light
    If you've got a strobe in the tail (combo strobe & white tail light) it's non-standard. If the strobes are only on the wing tips the tail & wing nav lights use a standard bulb. Regards, Greg Young > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shemp > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:10 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Whelan white position light > > > Just wondering if anyone knows if the rear white light bulb > on the whelan wingtip combo strobe/position light is a > standard bulb or do I have to pay 18 bucks for the thing. > > tia > Jeff Shemp Dowling >


    Message 12


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    Time: 09:45:53 PM PST US
    From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Drop tank
    Ahhh..good point, Tim!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFro m: Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Frida y, January 30, 2009 6:32:31 AM=0ASubject: RE: RV-List: Drop tank=0A=0A =0AW ell, here is one reason. I have fuel at my hangar and can=0Arefuel my own plane. If I fly 2 hours to somewhere and the fuel cost is high=0Aor they h ave no fuel then I end up needing to fly somewhere else to get=0Afuel. Som etimes that fly somewhere else cost a bunch also. It isn=92t=0Athat I need 5 or 6 hours in the air, but I would find great convenience in=0Abeing abl e to fly somewhere for that $ hamburger and still get back home=0Awithout h aving to go chase fuel every time.=0A =0AJust another perspective. I do no t have long range tanks, but=0Ahave thought about it often; but just for th e convenience.=0ADo Not Archive=0A =0ATim Bryan=0ARV-6 Flying=0AN616TB over 120 hours now=0A =0AFrom:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owne r-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing=0ASent: Friday, Ja nuary 30, 2009 12:53 AM=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank=0A =0AFor=0Ame, 2 1/2 hours in an RV-4 was plenty. On a 6 you h ave 3 1/2....why=0Aanyone would want the complexity and drag, and work requ ired to install on a -6=0Athat has 600 miles (or more) on one leg is beyond me!=0A=0APaul Besing=0A-3 hour bladder=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A____________________ ____________=0A =0AFrom:Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matron ics.com=0ASent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:42:13 AM=0ASubject: RE: RV-Lis t: Drop tank=0ADoesn=92t the =93drop=94 only have to do with how you=0Afill them? Drop them to fill them and then lift them back into=0Aplace. Plus when you don=92t need them you just leave them in the=0Ahangar; yes?=0A =0A Tim Bryan=0ARV-6 Flying=0AN616TB over 120 hours now=0A =0AFrom:owner-rv-lis t-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On=0ABeh alf Of RV4WGH@aol.com=0ASent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:40 AM=0ATo: rv-l ist@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: Drop tank=0A =0AThe post on the T -18 web site says they are not "drop"=0Atanks. Just 5 extra gallons if you r badder can handle it!=0A =0AWally Hunt=0ARockford, IL=0ARV-4 Finishing Ki t=0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.matro=============== ======0A =0A=0A=0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-L -======================== ====================0A=0A=0A




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