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1. 01:46 PM - Re: Lord Mounts (Peter Laurence)
2. 05:42 PM - Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed to fly abroad (jhnstniii@aol.com)
3. 07:37 PM - Elevator - Elev Trim Tab Skin (E-619) and Elev Counterbalance Skin (E-713) (Garey Wittich)
4. 09:22 PM - Re: Elevator - Elev Trim Tab Skin (E-619) and Elev Counterbalance Skin (E-713) (Kelly McMullen)
5. 11:10 PM - Re: Elevator - Elev Trim Tab Skin (E-619) and Elev Counterbalance Skin (E-713) (Greg Green)
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Larry,
Those who have the Lords on their Rvs swear by the reduction in vibration,
assuming a well balanced engine and prop.
However, The cheapest I could find them were $111.00 per mount.
I just ordered the Van's set of VIP mounts for $ 260.00
Peter
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Lord Mounts
What is the difference in performance and cost?
(Brown truck is suppose to delivery the Van's mounts today...)
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Peter Laurence <dr.laurence@mbdi.org> wrote:
Thanks Bret
FYI They are no longer stocking Lord Mounts. They are now carring Barry.
Peter Laurence
RV-9A Fuse/FWF
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Lord Mounts
Call Jesse Robinson at AERO. He had the best price 6 months ago.
Bret Smith
RV-9A "FWF"
Blue Ridge, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
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From: "plaurence" <plaurence@the-beach.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: RV-List: Lord Mounts
>
> Has anyone recently installed lord mount instead of Van's VIP mounts?
> If so, Can you give me "good price" source?
>
> Peter
> RV9A
> Fuse
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> --------
> Peter Laurence
> RV9A Fuse
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| Subject: | Pilot certificate with English proficiency statement needed to |
fly abroad
Listers--I just got back from?flight instructor refresher?training and we were?informed
that in order to use your US pilot certificate abroad, you need the new
kind with the?statement on it that you are proficient in English.? We were
advised that we have until the end of March 2009 to get on the FAA web site and
order a replacement certificate with this language on it. The cost is two dollars
($2.00),?payable by credit card.? I just did it.? In case you are interested,
here's how you do it:???
Go to www.faa.gov
Click on:
Licenses and certificates.
Airmen certification.
Order a replacement certificate.
Enter your info and register if you don't already have an account.
Assuming you're establishing your account for the first time, go to your e-mail
account and?retrieve your new password.?
Click on the link to go back to the FAA site.??
Log in to airmen services using your new password.
Put as your reason for ordering a replacement certificate: "English proficiency."
Go through the credit card payment screens and pay.
Wait for your replacement certificate (it will be the plastic kind) to arrive in
the mail, they say in two weeks.
?
Hope this is useful to you.?
You will need this to fly?in Canada, for example.? Not sure what you do after the
end of this month if you don't do this before then and you want to fly to Canada,
or Mexico etc.??
?
--LeRoy Johnston? N176LD RV-6A "Esperanza" 130+ hours flying (Ohio)
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| Subject: | Elevator - Elev Trim Tab Skin (E-619) and Elev Counterbalance |
Skin (E-713)
Greetings:
Ref: RV-8A (RV-7 is the same = Drawing 4)
Looked on Matronics, but found no answers to these questions
Question 1:
When building the Elev Trim Tab Skin it says: 1) bend the Skin with the wooden
brake, 2) bend the 2 metal "tabs" that are at each end, 3) match drill the Trim
Tab Horns (E-717 and E-718) to the Skin. So far no problem, BUT now how do
you then dimple the Skin where the E-718 (INBOARD Trim Tab Horn) goes as the 2
rivets for it are approx 1/8" from the bent Skin Tab ????? One of the 2 rivets
is also near the bent trailing edge which makes it impossible to get at.
Question 2:
Instructions say to "bevel the inboard and aft edges of the Counterbalance Skin
(E-713) locally where the Counterbalance Skin overlaps the (Elev) Spar and Rib
flanges to provide a smooth transition between the Counterbalance Skin and the
Elevator Skin." This does not make sense. I can see "beveling" the Elev Skin
"at the point" where the Counterbalance Skin goes UNDER the Elev Skin to make
a smooth transition. Am I missing something ???
Appreciate your help,
Garey Wittich RV-8A Santa Monica, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator - Elev Trim Tab Skin (E-619) and Elev Counterbalance |
Skin (E-713)
To your first question. Some of the holes need to be dimpled with a
pop-rivet dimple die set. If you bent the tabs so they are flush with
the edge of the unbent skin, there is adequate space for the dimple die.
Just did mine a few weeks ago. You are lucky you only have one to
do...the 10 has two trim tabs, that are interchangeable with the single
tab on the 9.
Kelly
RV-10
Tail cone
Garey Wittich wrote:
>
>
> Greetings:
>
> Ref: RV-8A (RV-7 is the same = Drawing 4)
>
> Looked on Matronics, but found no answers to these questions
>
> Question 1:
> When building the Elev Trim Tab Skin it says: 1) bend the Skin with the wooden
brake, 2) bend the 2 metal "tabs" that are at each end, 3) match drill the Trim
Tab Horns (E-717 and E-718) to the Skin. So far no problem, BUT now how do
you then dimple the Skin where the E-718 (INBOARD Trim Tab Horn) goes as the
2 rivets for it are approx 1/8" from the bent Skin Tab ????? One of the 2 rivets
is also near the bent trailing edge which makes it impossible to get at.
>
> Question 2:
> Instructions say to "bevel the inboard and aft edges of the Counterbalance Skin
(E-713) locally where the Counterbalance Skin overlaps the (Elev) Spar and
Rib flanges to provide a smooth transition between the Counterbalance Skin and
the Elevator Skin." This does not make sense. I can see "beveling" the Elev
Skin "at the point" where the Counterbalance Skin goes UNDER the Elev Skin to
make a smooth transition. Am I missing something ???
>
> Appreciate your help,
>
> Garey Wittich RV-8A Santa Monica, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator - Elev Trim Tab Skin (E-619) and Elev Counterbalance |
Skin (E-713)
Question 2: the bevel provides a ramp that the elevator skin will sit on so
there isn't a step. When the rivets are in the elevator skin will get sucked
down on to the ramp. The ramp only needs to be above the spar and the rib.
You are right that the ramp could be in the elevator skin instead, but the
counterbalance skin is where I put the ramp as the instructions say.
I looked through my pictures hoping I had one of the bevel, but no luck. You
can't really see it after it is put together. It is the same situation on
the rudder with it's counterbalance skin.
I just did the rivets on the trim tab horn a few weeks ago. Don't remember
having any trouble. I used the hand squeezer.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> To your first question. Some of the holes need to be dimpled with a
> pop-rivet dimple die set. If you bent the tabs so they are flush with the
> edge of the unbent skin, there is adequate space for the dimple die. Just
> did mine a few weeks ago. You are lucky you only have one to do...the 10 has
> two trim tabs, that are interchangeable with the single tab on the 9.
> Kelly
> RV-10
> Tail cone
>
>
> Garey Wittich wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> Ref: RV-8A (RV-7 is the same = Drawing 4)
>>
>> Looked on Matronics, but found no answers to these questions
>>
>> Question 1:
>> When building the Elev Trim Tab Skin it says: 1) bend the Skin with the
>> wooden brake, 2) bend the 2 metal "tabs" that are at each end, 3) match
>> drill the Trim Tab Horns (E-717 and E-718) to the Skin. So far no problem,
>> BUT now how do you then dimple the Skin where the E-718 (INBOARD Trim Tab
>> Horn) goes as the 2 rivets for it are approx 1/8" from the bent Skin Tab
>> ????? One of the 2 rivets is also near the bent trailing edge which makes
>> it impossible to get at.
>>
>> Question 2:
>> Instructions say to "bevel the inboard and aft edges of the Counterbalance
>> Skin (E-713) locally where the Counterbalance Skin overlaps the (Elev) Spar
>> and Rib flanges to provide a smooth transition between the Counterbalance
>> Skin and the Elevator Skin." This does not make sense. I can see
>> "beveling" the Elev Skin "at the point" where the Counterbalance Skin goes
>> UNDER the Elev Skin to make a smooth transition. Am I missing something
>> ???
>>
>> Appreciate your help,
>>
>> Garey Wittich RV-8A Santa Monica, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
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Greg
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