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1. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?) (Ron Lee)
2. 08:40 AM - Metal Shrinker (rveighta)
3. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?) (Ed Anderson)
4. 02:49 PM - RV-8A project for sale, Seattle (Terry Watson)
5. 03:36 PM - O-360 for sale (Dave Saylor)
6. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?) (Charlie England)
7. 07:33 PM - KC - Prescott, AZ (David Schaefer)
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Subject: | Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?) |
So what is the proper maintenance procedure and grease for these fuel
valves?
If you say "grease it" be clearer. Do you have to physically remove the
rotating
part?
Ron Lee
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All, I have a friend who is building a Rocket with a sliding canopy and is in need
of a metal shrinker. If anyone has a shrinker they want to sell, rent or loan,
please contact Greg Stone at: gvstone@embarqmail.com
Walt Shipley RV8A, RV8 (sold)
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Subject: | Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?) |
Just as a side note: I have used Van's Brass ball selector for over 10
years. There is no question it can be very stiff to operate - even at best.
I have noticed that if I fly with 100 LL the valve operates nicely and
without excessive force required. However, if I fly with a tank or two of
automobile gasoline, the valve will become very hard to rotate.
I suspect that the lubricating quality of the lead in the 100LL may help it
turn easier and of course after a couple of tanks of no-lead auto gasoline
the lead is washed off the brass ball.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?)
Pete Cowper wrote:
>
>Periodic lubrication of the fuel selector valve appears to be necessary
>to prevent failure. Using an improper grease can still allow corrosion
>to cause the selector valve to fail..
>
>An example is the John Denver crash. The fuel selector valve in John
>Denver's Long-Eze failed leaving him unable to switch to his other tank
>which had about 45 minutes of remaining fuel.
>
I do not believe you are stating all of the fact sir, while the
investgators could not move the valve after the crash
it was not a failed valve that caused the crash. It was Mr Denvers
inability to reach the valve at the location
where it was mounted that caused the crash, even when he added vice
grips to the valve he still could not reach
without physically turning his body which in turn caused aggresive
control inputs. It was testified that the valve worked
although stiff with good dentents before the crash.
To blindly blame the valve I guess is a lawyer tactic.
Jerry
PROBABLE CAUSE
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause
of this accident was the pilot's diversion of attention from the
operation of the airplane and his inadvertent application of right
rudder that resulted in the loss of airplane control while attempting to
manipulate the fuel selector handle. Also, the Board determines that the
pilot's inadequate preflight planning and preparations, specifically his
failure to refuel the airplane, was causal. The Board determines that
the builder's decision to locate the unmarked fuel selector handle in a
hard-to-access position, unmarked fuel quantity sight gauges, inadequate
transition training by the pilot, and his lack of total experience in
this type of airplane were factors in this acccident.
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Subject: | RV-8A project for sale, Seattle |
RV-8A project, $75,000
Terry Watson
19537 - 55th Avenue NE
Lake Forest Park, WA 98155
(206) 365-2657
RV-8A #80729 slow build project near Seattle; 2500 hours and over $95,000
invested over 11 years. Estimate 90% plus complete
. Tail complete, fitted to fuselage & removed for storage
. Wings complete except bottom skins and wingtips
. Fuselage complete except as noted below
. Engine installed, electrical in progress
Engine: New Aero Sport Power IO-360-B1B
. 1 Lightspeed Plasma II ignition installed on right side
. 1 Slick mag installed on left side
. Airflow performance fuel injection installed
. Engine installed on airframe with plumbing, baffles, engine & prop
controls complete
. Oil cooler with louvered air control installed
. Custom louvered alternate air source installed in filtered air box
Controls
. Rear seat throttle & rudder pedals installed
. Front seat Infinity stick grip on custom shortened and bent stick
installed
. Alternate air, oil filter air flow, and fuel cut-off controls
installed
. Throttle, mixture, and prop controls installed
. Cabin heat & control installed
. Electric trim & flaps installed
. Deluxe throttle quadrant installed
. Ground adjustable front rudder pedals installed
. Andair fuel valve installed
Propeller
. New Whirlwind 200RV still in shipping crate
. Prop control servo, oil line & controls installed
Avionics & Instruments
. Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS/one with remote keypad with
magnetometer, GPS antenna, & engine sensors installed
Approach Systems Pro G rev. C avionics hub installed
. TruTrak Pictorial Pilot wing leveler autopilot; servo installed
. Treo Avionics EZ series altitude control autopilot; servo installed
. Garmin 340 comm panel still in box
. 2.25" airspeed with RV-8 markings
. 2.25" backup altimeter
. 2.25" Vertical Velocity Indicator
. Trim indicators
. AoA Sport angle of attack, custom mount on top of panel
. Fuel low level warning system partially installed
. Hinged instrument panel to allow access behind panel (final panel
not yet cut)
Wings
. Complete except bottom skin & wing tips
. Landing and taxi lights installed
. Capacitive sensors in fuel tanks
. Flop tube in right tank; standard pickup left tank
. Heated pitot tube
. Angle of Attack sensors installed
. Old style wing tips not yet installed
. Wing root mounted Andair gascolator/filter installed
. Wings have not been fit to fuselage
Fuselage
. Complete except front top skin left off for wiring so baggage door
has not been started
. Front top skin fitted to fuselage and has avionics access ports each
side between panel and baggage compartment bulkhead. Access also provided
through baggage compartment bulkhead
. Canopy complete with Sikaflex & rivets. Skirts and latch complete;
windscreen not installed
. Cowl fitted with hinge pins on sides, twist lock fittings at
firewall
Interior
. No seats or upholstery, except aluminum supports
. Rear floorboards fitted but not riveted
. Front & rear baggage compartments complete
. Hooker harnesses not yet installed
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One O-360-A4M for sale, as removed from a 1979 Piper Archer.
1880 since major overhaul, 4007 total time.
Carb, starter, fuel pump, mags, and harness included.
Removed for high time and 50/70 compression on one cylinder, leaking from
the exhaust valve.
All logs since new. No damage history. No prop strike.
It's currently on the airplane and can be run but, will be removed in the
next few days for replacement.
Asking $6750/Best Offer. FOB Watsonville, CA
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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Subject: | Re: on Fuel Pump (fuel selector valve?) |
Ron Lee wrote:
> So what is the proper maintenance procedure and grease for these fuel
> valves?
>
> If you say "grease it" be clearer. Do you have to physically remove
> the rotating
> part?
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
Short answer: yes.
I can't address 'proper maintenance procedure', but when mine started to
get tight enough to worry me, I removed the 'core' (rotating part) &
found a match head sized bit of the lubricant still on the bottom of the
core between the taper & the threads. I spread it on the taper, placed
the core back in the housing & rotated it a few times to spread the
lubricant, & reassembled the valve.
Charlie
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Subject: | KC - Prescott, AZ |
Heading to Prescott, AZ next month from KC. Anyone have any suggetions
about a nice place to stop for fuel etc. somewhere around ABQ? The proposed
route looks like it goes South West towards Wichita then West towards ABQ
and on into Prescott. Any of you that may live in the NM area have any
suggestions?
Thanks...
David W. Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm"
TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
www.n142ds.com
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