---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/22/09: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:40 AM - 8MB cards for GX60 (Ralph E. Capen) 2. 06:06 AM - Re: 8MB cards for GX60 (RV6 Flyer) 3. 10:41 AM - Re: 8MB cards for GX60 (Ralph E. Capen) 4. 11:33 AM - Re: 8MB cards for GX60 (gyoung@cs-sol.com) 5. 11:34 AM - Re: 8MB cards for GX60 (Chris Stone) 6. 11:40 AM - Re: Starter Motor (Gregg Costabile) 7. 06:17 PM - Re: 8MB cards for GX60 (Ralph E. Capen) 8. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: Starter Motor (H. Ivan Haecker) 9. 10:33 PM - Re: 8MB cards for GX60 (Greg Young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:56 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 I had the opportunity to pick up an 8MB card which is supposed to be compatible with my GX60. It is originally designed (like the 4MB cards) to work in a Cisco router. My Jeppesen skybound adapter won't recognize it. Any suggestions? I'll probably call Jeppesen Tech support in the AM. I already know that the card works with my GX60 as I have put an older database on it, plugged it in, passed the diagnostics, and flown successfully. Ralph RV6A N822AR @ N06 7.5 hrs ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:05 AM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 How did you get an OLDER database on the card without using the Jeppesen Sk ybound adapter? Yes the original 2 Meg cards will not hold the data required on the new upd ates but the 4 Meg cards for the Cisco Router will. I have used about a half-dozen different 4-Meg cards without problem. This is the first time that I have heard of anyone using an 8-Meg card. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C201+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 > Date: Sun=2C 22 Mar 2009 08:34:56 -0400 > > > I had the opportunity to pick up an 8MB card which is supposed to be > compatible with my GX60. It is originally designed (like the 4MB cards) to > work in a Cisco router. > > My Jeppesen skybound adapter won't recognize it. Any suggestions? > I'll probably call Jeppesen Tech support in the AM. I already know that the > card works with my GX60 as I have put an older database on it=2C plugged it > in=2C passed the diagnostics=2C and flown successfully. > > Ralph > RV6A N822AR @ N06 7.5 hrs > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_03200 9 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:49 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 I have an OmniDrive flash card reader that came with software to create an 'image' of the card which can be written to another card. This allows me to carry a backup and the last cycles databases with me in the event of something that I don't understand about these kind of devices....... I remember reading (somewhere and I wish I could find it) that the GX60 is advertised to support 2, 4, and 8 MB cards and I know it will read the 8MB card with the 4MB image on it without any issues. The skybound adapter seems to be my limitation right now as it will not acknowledge the presence of the 8MB card. Really not an issue as the current database uses just a bit more than the space on the original 2MB card - we shouldn't need to upgrade to an 8MB card for a good long while.... Just trying to figure out if anyone's already done it (maybe that's where I read it....here!......ya ya that's the ticket). ----- Original Message ----- From: RV6 Flyer To: RV List Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 How did you get an OLDER database on the card without using the Jeppesen Skybound adapter? Yes the original 2 Meg cards will not hold the data required on the new updates but the 4 Meg cards for the Cisco Router will. I have used about a half-dozen different 4-Meg cards without problem. This is the first time that I have heard of anyone using an 8-Meg card. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,201+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:34:56 -0400 > > > I had the opportunity to pick up an 8MB card which is supposed to be > compatible with my GX60. It is originally designed (like the 4MB cards) to > work in a Cisco router. > > My Jeppesen skybound adapter won't recognize it. Any suggestions? > I'll probably call Jeppesen Tech support in the AM. I already know that the > card works with my GX60 as I have put an older database on it, plugged it > in, passed the diagnostics, and flown successfully. > > Ralph > RV6A N822AR @ N06 7.5 hrs &========== > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out more. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 From: gyoung@cs-sol.com There is an ini or .sys file that Sky bound checks fo r valid cards. I had to mess with it before to get around some errors. You might try adding the 8Mb to the appropriate entry. Should be in the Sky bound folder. Greg Young Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:01 AM PST US From: Chris Stone Subject: RE: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 I also purchased the 8mb card... Turns out that these are HC which are not backward compatible with the original SD card readers/writers. Chris Stone RV-8 -----Original Message----- >From: RV6 Flyer >Sent: Mar 22, 2009 9:02 AM >To: RV List >Subject: RE: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 > > >How did you get an OLDER database on the card without using the Jeppesen Skybound adapter? > >Yes the original 2 Meg cards will not hold the data required on the new updates but the 4 Meg cards for the Cisco Router will. > >I have used about a half-dozen different 4-Meg cards without problem. This is the first time that I have heard of anyone using an 8-Meg card. > >Gary A. Sobek > >"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, > >2,201+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > > >> From: recapen@earthlink.net >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 >> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:34:56 -0400 >> >> >> I had the opportunity to pick up an 8MB card which is supposed to be >> compatible with my GX60. It is originally designed (like the 4MB cards) to >> work in a Cisco router. >> >> My Jeppesen skybound adapter won't recognize it. Any suggestions? >> I'll probably call Jeppesen Tech support in the AM. I already know that the >> card works with my GX60 as I have put an older database on it, plugged it >> in, passed the diagnostics, and flown successfully. >> >> Ralph >> RV6A N822AR @ N06 7.5 hrs >> >> >=========== >=========== >=========== >=========== >> >> >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. >http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:42 AM PST US From: "Gregg Costabile" Subject: RV-List: Re: Starter Motor Had my starter fail this week and had a ton of help from the Chapter 108 EAA gang trying to get me airborne again. Had my starter side-by-side with a loaner and found both starters have nine tooth pinion gears. However, the pinion gear diameter for my starter was about 3 inches, while the pinion gear diameter for the loaner was about 2.5 inches (as measured with calipers). If you have the starters side-by-side the difference in diameter is easily visible. My engine has a 122 tooth gear ring. So we should be able to conclude the 149 tooth gear ring configuration requires a starter with about a 2.5 inch diameter pinion gear, while the 122 tooth gear ring requires a starter with about a 3 inch diameter pinion gear. Hope this helps. Gregg Costabile RV-6, 1201 hours O-320-A1A, fixed pitch Aymar Demuth Match: #24 Message: #117833 From: "H.Ivan Haecker" Subject: Starter Motor Feb 12, 2005 I need to know how to tell if a particular 12 volt Prestolite starter motor is used with a 122 or a 149 tooth ring gear. The motor in question has 9 teeth on its drive gear and is stamped with the following: A/E P/N 2041 Part No. MZ4222R For the future, does anyone know how to tell which ring gear matches a starter by looking solely at the drive gear? Thanks, Ivan Haecker -4 1175 hrs. S. Cen. TX ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:09 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 Greg, Any more info would be appreciated and worth the wait..... I dug through my folders looking for .sys and .ini files - did find a couple but none had what looked like a section that would differentiate between 2, 4, and 8 MB cards. Thanks, Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: gyoung@cs-sol.com To: RV List Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 There is an ini or .sys file that Sky bound checks for valid cards. I had to mess with it before to get around some errors. You might try adding the 8Mb to the appropriate entry. Should be in the Sky bound folder. Greg Young Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:34:06 -0400 To: Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 I have an OmniDrive flash card reader that came = with software to create an 'image' of the card which can be written to = another card. This allows me to carry a backup and the last = cycles databases with me in the event of something that I don't understand = about these kind of devices....... I remember reading (somewhere and I wish I could = find it) that the GX60 is advertised to support 2, 4, and 8 MB cards and I know = it will read the 8MB card with the 4MB image on it without any issues. The = skybound adapter seems to be my limitation right now as it will not = acknowledge the presence of the 8MB card. Really not an issue as the current database uses = just a bit more than the space on the original 2MB card - we shouldn't need to = upgrade to an 8MB card for a good long while.... Just trying to figure out if anyone's already = done it (maybe that's where I read it....here!......ya ya that's the ticket). ----- Original Message ----- From: RV6 Flyer To: RV List Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 = 9:02 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: 8MB cards = for GX60 How did you get an OLDER database on the card without = using the Jeppesen Skybound adapter? Yes the original 2 Meg cards will = not hold the data required on the new updates but the 4 Meg cards for the Cisco = Router will. I have used about a half-dozen different 4-Meg = cards without problem. This is the first time that I have heard of anyone = using an 8-Meg card. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 = Hartzell, 2,201+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: recapen@earthlink.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:34:56 -0400 > > = --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" > > I had the opportunity = to pick up an 8MB card which is supposed to be > compatible with my = GX60. It is originally designed (like the 4MB cards) to > work in a Cisco router. > > My Jeppesen skybound adapter won't recognize = it. Any suggestions? > I'll probably call Jeppesen Tech support in the = AM. I already know that the > card works with my GX60 as I have put = an older database on it, plugged it > in, passed the diagnostics, and = flown successfully. > > Ralph > RV6A N822AR @ N06 7.5 hrs = &=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. 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Ivan Haecker" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter Motor Greg, Thanks for the info. I never did find the answer to my question from 4 years ago until now. In fact, I had totally forgotten the whole affair. I finally just bolted the starter I had on the engine and the gears seemed to mesh so I went with that and had no problems. But thanks to you, I now know how to tell the difference. Ivan Haecker -4 1546 hrs. S. Cen. TX ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregg Costabile To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: RV-List: Re: Starter Motor Had my starter fail this week and had a ton of help from the Chapter 108 EAA gang trying to get me airborne again. Had my starter side-by-side with a loaner and found both starters have nine tooth pinion gears. However, the pinion gear diameter for my starter was about 3 inches, while the pinion gear diameter for the loaner was about 2.5 inches (as measured with calipers). If you have the starters side-by-side the difference in diameter is easily visible. My engine has a 122 tooth gear ring. So we should be able to conclude the 149 tooth gear ring configuration requires a starter with about a 2.5 inch diameter pinion gear, while the 122 tooth gear ring requires a starter with about a 3 inch diameter pinion gear. Hope this helps. Gregg Costabile RV-6, 1201 hours O-320-A1A, fixed pitch Aymar Demuth Match: #24 Message: #117833 From: "H.Ivan Haecker" Subject: Starter Motor Date: Feb 12, 2005 I need to know how to tell if a particular 12 volt Prestolite starter motor isused with a 122 or a 149 tooth ring gear. The motor in question has 9 teeth onits drive gear and is stamped with the following:A/E P/N 2041Part No. MZ4222R For the future, does anyone know how to tell which ring gear matches a starterby looking solely at the drive gear?Thanks,Ivan Haecker -4 1175 hrs. S. Cen. TX ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:33 PM PST US From: "Greg Young" Subject: RE: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 The file is Services.ini in the Skybound2 folder. The entries are like: DUPS12 = 2MB,4MB represent a subscription type and the card sizes that are valid. I let my subscription lapse while my plane was down and have not re-upped as yet so I can't reconstruct how I deduced which entry to change. IIRC you can see some details on the card using the Read IID menu selection. The subscription type may be in the subscription dropdown. Worst case you can try adding ",8MB" to all the ones that don't have it. You can edit it with Notepad. Just be sure to back up the file first. But if they have updated the software dramatically since I subscribed then the above may not apply. Regards, Greg Young _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 Greg, Any more info would be appreciated and worth the wait..... I dug through my folders looking for .sys and .ini files - did find a couple but none had what looked like a section that would differentiate between 2, 4, and 8 MB cards. Thanks, Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: gyoung@cs-sol.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 There is an ini or .sys file that Sky bound checks for valid cards. I had to mess with it before to get around some errors. You might try adding the 8Mb to the appropriate entry. Should be in the Sky bound folder. Greg Young Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _____ From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: 8MB cards for GX60 I have an OmniDrive flash card reader that came = with software to create an 'image' of the card which can be written to = another card. This allows me to carry a backup and the last = cycles databases with me in the event of something that I don't understand = about these kind of devices....... I remember reading (somewhere and I wish I could = find it) that the GX60 is advertised to support 2, 4, and 8 MB cards and I know = it will read the 8MB card with the 4MB image on it without any issues. The = skybound adapter seems to be my limitation right now as it will not = acknowledge the presence of the 8MB card. Really not an issue as the current database uses = just a bit more than the space on the original 2MB card - we shouldn't need to = upgrade to an 8MB card for a good long while.... Just trying to figure out if anyone's already = done it (maybe that's where I read it....here!......ya ya that's the ticket). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.