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1. 04:19 AM - Hangar at Manassas, VA (HEF) ? (Randy Garrett)
2. 05:06 AM - Generation 3 Ignition (Generation 3 ignition)
3. 06:07 AM - Generation 3 Ignition (Generation 3 ignition)
4. 06:07 AM - Re: RC Allen RCA2600 ADI (marklevy)
5. 10:50 AM - Kit Shipments (John Fasching)
6. 11:44 AM - Re: Kit Shipments (Sam Buchanan)
7. 01:28 PM - Re: Generation 3 Ignition (Dave Cordner)
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| Subject: | Hangar at Manassas, VA (HEF) ? |
I'm looking for an RV builder to share a beautiful new hangar with
insulation, heat, electricity at HEF. $300 per
month.
Randy
RV-6A
800+ hours
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| Subject: | Generation 3 Ignition |
Hello Dave,
All mags should be inspected @ the recommended time interval. Example, I
have inspected Slick mags with 400hrs on them and they were excellent
for the G3i system modification. Depending on what fails in the mag, in
some scenarios, the electronic will back -up the mag and continue to
fire just fine. During run-up, a system off, normal (L-R) mag drop is
recommended to revel any potential ignition problems. We do the mag
modification here and inspections/ repairs. Since the spark plug gap is
slightly larger than the stock (.018") recommendation. New total air gap
being increased to .020" - .026" the secondary voltage range to ionize
the spark adds roughly .2 - .5kv to the overall window. It is the
synchronized multiple discharge that make the G3i systems performs so
well. Here is a link to Larry Vettermans/ Vettermans Exhaust website
scroll down to Hartzell Blended Airfoil vs Whirlwind 200RV Series props
on my RV-7A..Larry Vetterman for info. on his test findings or give him
a call.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam
To: Generation 3 Ignition
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: ***SPAM***Re: FormContactus
Do the mags still need overhaul at 500 hours? What does the system do
in the case of a mag failure?
I plan to order a stock IO-540 from Van's Aircraft in a few weeks.
Can I send you the mags for conversion?
Is the spark voltage energy increased over standard mag voltage? So
far your system sounds very good however I have not been able to get
much feedback in the field about it. How many systems do you have
flying? Thanks for taking the barrage of questions!!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Generation 3 Ignition
To: daveleikam@wi.rr.com
Cc: G3i
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: FormContactus
Hello Dave,
Well, there is really no comparison, Slick/Unison LASAR would be the
closest since it still has the mag redundancy. There are many benefits
to electronic ignitions systems out there, however our product has the
best fall back on redundancy available. You don't have to run half a
ignition system to still have mag redundancy. Its doesn't require
back-up batteries to still operate if you lose the aircraft electrical
system, and/or if a sensor or some other electronic ignition component
fails, the G3i system reverts back to the original magnetos to still
continue ignition firing. The G3i system fires both ignition systems
together in perfect sync. which produces engine smoothness and
performance/economy gains. Fuel economy gains are realistically are from
8% to 14%. On static dynamotor test pulls, 2% - 5% has been record in
pounds of thrust @ 100% power. On starting the G3i provides multiple
spark to both L&R ignitions instantly in sync. making starting much
easier. Does not need 3 crankshaft revolutions to see a signal on when
to fire. Installation is straight forward and easily done. Please ck out
our website on the install manual or give us a call about our product.
We will be in KOSH Airventure booth 1148 this year also.
Thank you for you inquiry.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
Interfacing Aircraft Magnetos
Electronic Multiple Spark Technology
GENERATION 3 IGNITION
2331 W. Hampden Ave. 130
Englewood, CO. 80110
T 303-781-9449
C 303-906-6846
F 303-806-5120
www.g3ignition.com
mail@g3ignition.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
To: <mail@g3ignition.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:56 PM
Subject: FormContactus
> Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> (daveleikam@wi.rr.com) on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 at 21:56:57
>
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> name2: Dave
> Last name: Leikam
> address: S79W16389 Woods Rd
> city2: Muskego
> state2: WI
> zip: 53150
> phone number: 414-807-5499
> email2: daveleikam@wi.rr.com
> hearabout: matronics RV-10 list
> question: How does your system compare to LASAR or Electroair and
others?
> I am building an RV-10. I was considering Electroair until I saw
your product.
> Ease of install? Any better performance than others? Thanks.
>
> Dave Leikam
> RV-10
> Submit32: Submit
>
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| Subject: | Generation 3 Ignition |
Hello Dave,
All mags should be inspected @ the recommended time interval. Example,
I have inspected Slick mags with 400hrs on them and they were excellent
for the G3i system modification. Depending on what fails in the mag, in
some scenarios, the electronic will back -up the mag and continue to
fire just fine. During run-up, a system off, normal (L-R) mag drop is
recommended to revel any potential ignition problems. We do the mag
modification here and inspections/ repairs. Since the spark plug gap is
slightly larger than the stock (.018") recommendation. New total air gap
being increased to .020" - .026" the secondary voltage range to ionize
the spark adds roughly .2 - .5kv to the overall window. It is the
synchronized multiple discharge that make the G3i systems performs so
well. Here is a link to Larry Vettermans/ Vettermans Exhaust website
scroll down to Hartzell Blended Airfoil vs Whirlwind 200RV Series props
on my RV-7A..Larry Vetterman for info. on his test findings or give him
a call.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: FormContactus
Do the mags still need overhaul at 500 hours? What does the system
do in the case of a mag failure?
I plan to order a stock IO-540 from Van's Aircraft in a few weeks.
Can I send you the mags for conversion?
Is the spark voltage energy increased over standard mag voltage? So
far your system sounds very good however I have not been able to get
much feedback in the field about it. How many systems do you have
flying? Thanks for taking the barrage of questions!!
Dave
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: FormContactus
Hello Dave,
Well, there is really no comparison, Slick/Unison LASAR would be
the closest since it still has the mag redundancy. There are many
benefits to electronic ignitions systems out there, however our product
has the best fall back on redundancy available. You don't have to run
half a ignition system to still have mag redundancy. Its doesn't require
back-up batteries to still operate if you lose the aircraft electrical
system, and/or if a sensor or some other electronic ignition component
fails, the G3i system reverts back to the original magnetos to still
continue ignition firing. The G3i system fires both ignition systems
together in perfect sync. which produces engine smoothness and
performance/economy gains. Fuel economy gains are realistically are from
8% to 14%. On static dynamotor test pulls, 2% - 5% has been record in
pounds of thrust @ 100% power. On starting the G3i provides multiple
spark to both L&R ignitions instantly in sync. making starting much
easier. Does not need 3 crankshaft revolutions to see a signal on when
to fire. Installation is straight forward and easily done. Please ck out
our website on the install manual or give us a call about our product.
We will be in KOSH Airventure booth 1148 this year also.
Thank you for you inquiry.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
Interfacing Aircraft Magnetos
Electronic Multiple Spark Technology
GENERATION 3 IGNITION
2331 W. Hampden Ave. 130
Englewood, CO. 80110
T 303-781-9449
C 303-906-6846
F 303-806-5120
www.g3ignition.com
mail@g3ignition.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:56 PM
Subject: FormContactus
> hearabout: matronics RV-10 list
> question: How does your system compare to LASAR or Electroair
and others?
> I am building an RV-10. I was considering Electroair until I
saw your product.
> Ease of install? Any better performance than others? Thanks.
>
> Dave
> RV-10
> Submit32: Submit
>
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| Subject: | Re: RC Allen RCA2600 ADI |
Thanks for the feedback guys. I posted on the RV forum, as it has a huge database
of experience. The ADI is, however for my YAK50, and I don't want an EFIS as
it would not be in keeping with the rest of the panel.
I know that the electro mechanical RC Allen horizons don't fare well in high vibration
installations (the YAK's usual environment) but this is a solid state
unit.
I was also looking at the TruTrak ADI, but was put off by its use of processed
Vertical speed data to provide pitch info, and its inability to show roll beyond
30 degrees.
Has anyone had experience with this bit of kit? How does it handle continuous acro?
Mike; any feedback from the avionics shop on the quality of the RCA2600?
Appreciate the help.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236510#236510
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Can you private message me regarding your experience with Partain
shipping your kits...particularly in regard to communications with them,
delays, and any other perteninet infor in confidence. Thank you
John
n1cxo320@salidaco.com
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Shipments |
A lot of info on this subject on the VAF forum. Here are just three
examples pulled up by the forum Search engine:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=40172&highlight=Partain
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=40001&highlight=Partain
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=26969&highlight=Partain
Sam Buchanan
=========================
John Fasching wrote:
> Can you private message me regarding your experience with Partain
> shipping your kits...particularly in regard to communications with
> them, delays, and any other perteninet infor in confidence. Thank you
>
>
> John n1cxo320@salidaco.com
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| Subject: | Re: Generation 3 Ignition |
Thomas
Do you have some ".bcc" list going? Interesting email, I learned a
couple things, but I don't think it was intended for me?
Dave Cordner
davcor@comcast.net
btw, my son got the nova/396 running... had to re-adj the valves to get
it to start.
----- Original Message -----
From: Generation 3 ignition
To: Dave Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 6:50 AM
Subject: RV-List: Generation 3 Ignition
Hello Dave,
All mags should be inspected @ the recommended time interval.
Example, I have inspected Slick mags with 400hrs on them and they were
excellent for the G3i system modification. Depending on what fails in
the mag, in some scenarios, the electronic will back -up the mag and
continue to fire just fine. During run-up, a system off, normal (L-R)
mag drop is recommended to revel any potential ignition problems. We do
the mag modification here and inspections/ repairs. Since the spark plug
gap is slightly larger than the stock (.018") recommendation. New total
air gap being increased to .020" - .026" the secondary voltage range to
ionize the spark adds roughly .2 - .5kv to the overall window. It is the
synchronized multiple discharge that make the G3i systems performs so
well. Here is a link to Larry Vettermans/ Vettermans Exhaust website
scroll down to Hartzell Blended Airfoil vs Whirlwind 200RV Series props
on my RV-7A..Larry Vetterman for info. on his test findings or give him
a call.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: FormContactus
Do the mags still need overhaul at 500 hours? What does the
system do in the case of a mag failure?
I plan to order a stock IO-540 from Van's Aircraft in a few weeks.
Can I send you the mags for conversion?
Is the spark voltage energy increased over standard mag voltage?
So far your system sounds very good however I have not been able to get
much feedback in the field about it. How many systems do you have
flying? Thanks for taking the barrage of questions!!
Dave
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: FormContactus
Hello Dave,
Well, there is really no comparison, Slick/Unison LASAR would be
the closest since it still has the mag redundancy. There are many
benefits to electronic ignitions systems out there, however our product
has the best fall back on redundancy available. You don't have to run
half a ignition system to still have mag redundancy. Its doesn't require
back-up batteries to still operate if you lose the aircraft electrical
system, and/or if a sensor or some other electronic ignition component
fails, the G3i system reverts back to the original magnetos to still
continue ignition firing. The G3i system fires both ignition systems
together in perfect sync. which produces engine smoothness and
performance/economy gains. Fuel economy gains are realistically are from
8% to 14%. On static dynamotor test pulls, 2% - 5% has been record in
pounds of thrust @ 100% power. On starting the G3i provides multiple
spark to both L&R ignitions instantly in sync. making starting much
easier. Does not need 3 crankshaft revolutions to see a signal on when
to fire. Installation is straight forward and easily done. Please ck out
our website on the install manual or give us a call about our product.
We will be in KOSH Airventure booth 1148 this year also.
Thank you for you inquiry.
Sincerely,
Thomas Shpakow
Interfacing Aircraft Magnetos
Electronic Multiple Spark Technology
GENERATION 3 IGNITION
2331 W. Hampden Ave. 130
Englewood, CO. 80110
T 303-781-9449
C 303-906-6846
F 303-806-5120
www.g3ignition.com
mail@g3ignition.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:56 PM
Subject: FormContactus
> hearabout: matronics RV-10 list
> question: How does your system compare to LASAR or Electroair
and others?
> I am building an RV-10. I was considering Electroair until I
saw your product.
> Ease of install? Any better performance than others? Thanks.
>
> Dave
> RV-10
> Submit32: Submit
>
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