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1. 11:05 AM - automotive ignition parts on a Lyc?? (Charlie England)
2. 01:25 PM - Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? (Chris Stone)
3. 04:34 PM - Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? (Richard E. Tasker)
4. 07:44 PM - Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? (PeterHunt1@aol.com)
5. 08:04 PM - Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | automotive ignition parts on a Lyc?? |
I have seen at least a couple of ignition setups using Delco or Chrysler
sensors & 'wasted spark' ignition modules functioning on Lycs. The
setups I've seen were based on two concepts. One had the pickups mounted
at the crank (flywheel) & timing could be mechanically adjusted by
moving the pickups using a cable. The other actually put the pickup in
the case of one of the mags. Neither setup required the toothed wheel &
computer of more modern ignition systems.
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on either system now in my
computer. (The stuff I saw was over 10 years ago & might have been prior
to saving everything on a hard drive, or might have disappeared in a
crash.)
Anyone have any info or links they could share?
Thanks,
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? |
All the engine & related systems installation FWF are easiest done with the fuse
on the gear. The height is just right for access to everything. I'll qualify
that, I'm 6'2"...
Chris Stone
-----Original Message-----
>From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Apr 24, 2009 8:14 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly?
>
>
>That's how I'm thinking, too. Did you go ahead & fit the engine, or did
>you put it back on the gear for that?
>
>Chris Stone wrote:
>>
>> Charlie...
>>
>> I have tried it both ways. The first RV-8 we built was set on it's gear as
soon as the fuse was skinned. It was a nightmare climbing in and out of hundreds
of times during the course of finishing. RV-8 no. two is currently on a four
wheel dolly. I lifted it on to saw horses to fit the wings. After removal
returned to the dolly. Easier to get in and out of for wiring, plumping and
cockpit work. (sticks, floors, etc.). Easy to reach everything for forward fuse
skinning and canopy installation. Also very easy to fit up vert and horz stabs,
rudder and elevs. Easy to flip inverted for gear fit-up. Having tried
it both ways, the dolly is the way to go... of course if you are interested in
a brutal physical exercise program put it on the gear as soon as possible!
>>
>> Chris Stone
>> RV-8
>> Newberg, OR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 4:36 PM
>>> To: RV list <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RV-List: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly?
>>>
>>>
>>> Being somewhat of a deviant in some (not all) areas, I've installed the
>>> motor mount, gear legs, wheels, leg fairings, and pants to get all those
>>> odds & ends properly aligned without the wings in the way. Pants &
>>> fairings have now been removed & stored.
>>>
>>> I haven't yet riveted on any of the fuse top skins, front or rear.
>>> Wings/tail have not yet been fitted to the fuselage.
>>>
>>> Now I'm contemplating the removal of the gear legs & returning the fuse
>>> to its dolly to do the engine/cowl fitting, plumbing, wiring, etc. This
>>> is with the idea that work will be easier with the fuse closer to the
>>> ground. I'll eventually need to 'unhang' the engine to have it
>>> overhauled (waiting until the last moment for that expense), so any
>>> rework would likely have to happen anyway.
>>>
>>> Anyone see any major issues with this idea?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? |
Well, I am 5' 10" and I agree.
Dick Tasker
Chris Stone wrote:
>
> All the engine & related systems installation FWF are easiest done with the fuse
on the gear. The height is just right for access to everything. I'll qualify
that, I'm 6'2"...
>
> Chris Stone
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>> Sent: Apr 24, 2009 8:14 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly?
>>
>>
>> That's how I'm thinking, too. Did you go ahead & fit the engine, or did
>> you put it back on the gear for that?
>>
>> Chris Stone wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Charlie...
>>>
>>> I have tried it both ways. The first RV-8 we built was set on it's gear as
soon as the fuse was skinned. It was a nightmare climbing in and out of hundreds
of times during the course of finishing. RV-8 no. two is currently on a
four wheel dolly. I lifted it on to saw horses to fit the wings. After removal
returned to the dolly. Easier to get in and out of for wiring, plumping and
cockpit work. (sticks, floors, etc.). Easy to reach everything for forward
fuse skinning and canopy installation. Also very easy to fit up vert and horz
stabs, rudder and elevs. Easy to flip inverted for gear fit-up. Having tried
it both ways, the dolly is the way to go... of course if you are interested in
a brutal physical exercise program put it on the gear as soon as possible!
>>>
>>> Chris Stone
>>> RV-8
>>> Newberg, OR
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>>> Sent: Apr 23, 2009 4:36 PM
>>>> To: RV list <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: RV-List: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Being somewhat of a deviant in some (not all) areas, I've installed the
>>>> motor mount, gear legs, wheels, leg fairings, and pants to get all those
>>>> odds & ends properly aligned without the wings in the way. Pants &
>>>> fairings have now been removed & stored.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't yet riveted on any of the fuse top skins, front or rear.
>>>> Wings/tail have not yet been fitted to the fuselage.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm contemplating the removal of the gear legs & returning the fuse
>>>> to its dolly to do the engine/cowl fitting, plumbing, wiring, etc. This
>>>> is with the idea that work will be easier with the fuse closer to the
>>>> ground. I'll eventually need to 'unhang' the engine to have it
>>>> overhauled (waiting until the last moment for that expense), so any
>>>> rework would likely have to happen anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone see any major issues with this idea?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? |
I built a tail dragger and put the motor mount on once the fuselage was
skinned. Then I used a short piece of concrete reinforcing rod to fashion
two very short legs. The reinforcing rod had just the right diameter so I
could tape the end and fit it snugly into the motor mount. I set the base of
the temporary legs into a wood beam and screwed six small swivel wheels
onto the bottom. You must keep the temporary legs short so you can get into
and out of the fuselage easily and so working on the engine and wiring later
places the engine below chest level where it is more easily accessed. The
swivel wheels enabled me to wheel the airplane around the shop in any
direction quite easily.
Pete in Clearwater
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| Subject: | Re: -7: Hang the engine with fuselage still on a dolly? |
PeterHunt1@aol.com wrote:
> I built a tail dragger and put the motor mount on once the fuselage
> was skinned. Then I used a short piece of concrete reinforcing rod to
> fashion two very short legs. The reinforcing rod had just the right
> diameter so I could tape the end and fit it snugly into the motor
> mount. I set the base of the temporary legs into a wood beam and
> screwed six small swivel wheels onto the bottom. You must keep the
> temporary legs short so you can get into and out of the fuselage
> easily and so working on the engine and wiring later places the
> engine below chest level where it is more easily accessed. The swivel
> wheels enabled me to wheel the airplane around the shop in any
> direction quite easily.
>
> Pete in Clearwater
> RV-6 "Best Metal - Homebuilt" 2009 Sun 'n Fun
Thanks Pete; that's what I was thinking of doing. No problems with
working on the sides or bottom of the engine?
Charlie
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