---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/30/09: 39 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:26 AM - Branson airport (Frazier, Vincent A) 2. 06:55 AM - Oxygen (mr.gsun@gmail.com) 3. 07:23 AM - Re: Oxygen (Bruce Gray) 4. 07:27 AM - Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) (Ralph E. Capen) 5. 07:32 AM - Re: Oxygen (Michael) 6. 07:42 AM - Re: Oxygen (Michael W Stewart) 7. 07:42 AM - Re: Oxygen (Vanremog@AOL.COM) 8. 08:13 AM - Re: Oxygen (Michael Kraus) 9. 08:14 AM - Re: Oxygen (Bret Smith) 10. 08:21 AM - Re: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) (Bret Smith) 11. 08:35 AM - Re: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) (Ralph E. Capen) 12. 09:11 AM - Re: Oxygen (Mike Divan) 13. 09:11 AM - Re: Oxygen (Bruce Gray) 14. 09:42 AM - Re: Oxygen (John Morgensen) 15. 10:20 AM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 16. 10:52 AM - Re: Oxygen (Jerry Springer) 17. 10:56 AM - Re: Oxygen (Dana Overall) 18. 11:05 AM - Re: Oxygen (Tailgummer@aol.com) 19. 11:21 AM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 20. 11:39 AM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 21. 11:49 AM - Re: Oxygen (Charles Kuss) 22. 12:06 PM - Re: Oxygen (Darrell Reiley) 23. 12:08 PM - Re: Oxygen (Tim Olson) 24. 12:21 PM - Re: Oxygen (Jerry Springer) 25. 12:29 PM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 26. 12:55 PM - Re: Oxygen (Dana Overall) 27. 01:50 PM - Re: Oxygen (Terry Watson) 28. 02:11 PM - Re: Oxygen (Denis Walsh) 29. 02:13 PM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 30. 02:17 PM - Re: Oxygen (John Jessen) 31. 02:19 PM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 32. 02:35 PM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 33. 02:49 PM - Re: Oxygen (Terry Watson) 34. 03:42 PM - Re: Oxygen (Jerry Springer) 35. 03:43 PM - Re: Oxygen (Dana Overall) 36. 04:44 PM - Re: Oxygen (Mike) 37. 05:52 PM - Re: Oxygen (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 38. 07:35 PM - Re: Oxygen (William Dean) 39. 10:36 PM - Re: Oxygen (Dave Saylor) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:32 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Branson airport From: "Frazier, Vincent A" SNIP A fly in at an airport that ain't even open yet ????? Now that is Change we can believe in !!!!! do not archive. SNIP IIRC, the new Branson airport (BBG) is privately owned. Now that indeed is change we can believe in... only because we aren't paying for it. If true, it must be the only project of its kind in the country, i.e. large and NOT gov't funded. OTOH, if they say "no" to fly-in traffic, you can bet it's because they know it won't make them any money (compared to a plane load of tourists). It'll be interesting to see how this impacts the industry. Vince ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:16 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Oxygen From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:59 AM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen It used to be that there were different grades of oxygen based on their moisture content (Aviation oxygen being the driest). That's no longer the case. The way the oxygen is now manufactured, results in all oxygen being in the dry category. Oxygen is oxygen, so you may fill your portable bottle from your large welding bottle with little worry. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:14 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) Folks, Looking to visit my sister in Marysville after getting my 40 hrs flown off. I think getting in to Montvale might be easier than McGhee-Tyson. Montvale is listed as a private airpark. Ralph Capen RV6A N822AR @ N06 12.1 hrs on 40 - planning ahead ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:44 AM PST US From: "Michael" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Welding O2 is NOT the same as ABO..aviators breathing oxygen. ABO is much drier to make sure there is no moisture to freeze at altitude. Find a maintenance shop to fill it for you......tip the mechanic and he will fill it in 5 min. ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen From: Michael W Stewart Yes you can. You just need the appropriate line. Its a mountain high TR-875. http://mstewart.net/super8/o2/index.htm Enjoy From: mr.gsun@gmail.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Date: 04/30/2009 10:23 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Sent by: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers.-- I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7.- The medical folks take forever because they are u sed to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads.- The g as suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all.- The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is:- Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank dir ectly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bot tle that way?- (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway)-- They ha ve no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding sh op says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:16 AM PST US From: Vanremog@AOL.COM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Yes, many people have this setup. N1GV (RV-6A Flying 920TTAE Silicon Valley, CA) In a message dated 4/30/2009 6:56:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mr.gsun@gmail.com writes: My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and click.net%2Fclk%3B214102108%3B35952091%3Bs) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:53 AM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Yes, you can buy an adapter. Bought mine from Aerox, about $35. I was told the only difference between the welding and medical oxygen is the cleanliness of the tanks, not the oxygen. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:52 AM, mr.gsun@gmail.com wrote: > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV > drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled > for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever > because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a > different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops > don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and > the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:19 AM PST US From: "Bret Smith" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:53 AM PST US From: "Bret Smith" Subject: Re: RV-List: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) Ralph, McGee-Tyson is easy to get in to by both plane and car. The controllers there are pretty nice too. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: RV-List: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) > > Folks, > > Looking to visit my sister in Marysville after getting my 40 hrs flown > off. I think getting in to Montvale might be easier than McGhee-Tyson. > Montvale is listed as a private airpark. > > Ralph Capen > RV6A N822AR @ N06 12.1 hrs on 40 - planning ahead > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:43 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) They probably have rental cars there too....Thanks -----Original Message----- >From: Bret Smith >Sent: Apr 30, 2009 11:17 AM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) > > >Ralph, > >McGee-Tyson is easy to get in to by both plane and car. The controllers >there are pretty nice too. > >Bret Smith >RV-9A N16BL >Blue Ridge, GA >www.FlightInnovations.com > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ralph E. Capen" >To: "rv-list" >Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:22 AM >Subject: RV-List: Any RV'ers In Montvale, TN (TN87) > > >> >> Folks, >> >> Looking to visit my sister in Marysville after getting my 40 hrs flown >> off. I think getting in to Montvale might be easier than McGhee-Tyson. >> Montvale is listed as a private airpark. >> >> Ralph Capen >> RV6A N822AR @ N06 12.1 hrs on 40 - planning ahead >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:38 AM PST US From: Mike Divan Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen You are going to get people telling you "welding" O2 is different than Aviation or medical O2. I doubt that is correct. I know someone that works at an O2 plant and they fill the medical and welding bottles from the same source. They make O2 to one standard. The only difference is when you buy "medical" O2 you get something that tells you it meets standard "X" with the other O2 you just get your O2. Make your own informed choice but I and many others breath "welding" O2 and are not dead yet. Heck the air here in Los Angeles is probably more harmful than anything you get out of a welders tank. Just one opinion though. You can probably save a few bucks by going to your local welding supply place to get your fittings instead of "aviation" fittings. Tank your tank down there tell them what you want to do and in a few minutes you will probabily walk out with what you need and save shipping. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ________________________________ From: "mr.gsun@gmail.com" Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:52:13 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:39 AM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:42:14 AM PST US From: John Morgensen Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen I still have post-it notes on my toolbox drawers... :-) john Michael W Stewart wrote: > > Yes you can. > You just need the appropriate line. > Its a mountain high TR-875. > http://mstewart.net/super8/o2/index.htm > > Enjoy > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:45 AM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > WARNING! WARNING! > > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and > CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > > Subject: RV-List: Oxygen > > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV > drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled > for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever > because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a > different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops > don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and > the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > - The RV-List Email Forum - > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> http://forums.matronics.com > - List Contribution Web Site - > Thank you for your generous support! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:33 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: > All of this to save money..... Typical GA. > > Sent from my iPhone > Mikey > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > >> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. >> >> >> >> Bruce >> WWW.Glasair.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >> >> >> >> WARNING! WARNING! >> >> >> >> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and >> CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. >> >> >> >> Bret Smith >> RV-9A N16BL >> Blue Ridge, GA >> www.FlightInnovations.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com >> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM >> >> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen >> >> >> >> Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV >> drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle >> filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take >> forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has >> a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas >> shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is >> not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. >> >> My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank >> directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set >> and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank >> anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me >> and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. >> >> Comments? >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> >> >> - The RV-List Email Forum - >> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> --> http://forums.matronics.com >> - List Contribution Web Site - >> Thank you for your generous support! >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:56:52 AM PST US From: Dana Overall Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Mikey with iphone=2C the oxygen now days is the same oxygen. Pay more for it as g4mech if you want too or just feel the need but don't trash those of us whom are correctly informed. Typical non GA Dana Overall Richmond=2C KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta=2C useta=2C kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive From: g4mech@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhoneMikey On Apr 30=2C 2009=2C at 8:59 AM=2C "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air=2C NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday=2C April 30=2C 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge=2C GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday=2C April 30=2C 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY=2C experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine h as a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding sho p says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.mat ronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matroni cs.com/c - The RV-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.ma tronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle=2C List Admin. --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail=AE: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_ Storage2_042009 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:13 AM PST US From: Tailgummer@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen See John Deakin's article: "getting high on welder's oxygen" _http://www.warmkessel.com/jr/flying/td/jd/13.jsp_ (http://www.warmkessel.com/jr/flying/td/jd/13.jsp) ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:39 AM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: > You don't like to save money? > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: > >> All of this to save money..... Typical GA. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Mikey >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: >> >>> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bruce >>> WWW.Glasair.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>> ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith >>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >>> >>> >>> >>> WARNING! WARNING! >>> >>> >>> >>> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO >>> and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bret Smith >>> RV-9A N16BL >>> Blue Ridge, GA >>> www.FlightInnovations.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com >>> >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM >>> >>> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen >>> >>> >>> >>> Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV >>> drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle >>> filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks >>> take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and >>> mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and >>> welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that >>> fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. >>> >>> My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank >>> directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set >>> and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank >>> anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me >>> and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. >>> >>> Comments? >>> >>> >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >>> >>> >>> - The RV-List Email Forum - >>> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>> --> http://forums.matronics.com >>> - List Contribution Web Site - >>> Thank you for your generous support! >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:06 AM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Dana, You must be a republican. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Dana Overall wrote: > Mikey with iphone, the oxygen now days is the same oxygen. Pay more > for it as g4mech if you want too or just feel the need but don't > trash those of us whom are correctly informed. > > Typical non GA > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda > Barrett Precision O 360 A1A > Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > > From: g4mech@sbcglobal.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:14:19 -0700 > > All of this to save money..... Typical GA. > > Sent from my iPhone > Mikey > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > > SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > WARNING! WARNING! > > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and > CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > > Subject: RV-List: Oxygen > > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV > drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled > for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever > because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a > different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops > don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and > the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > - The RV-List Email Forum - > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> http://forums.matronics.com > - List Contribution Web Site - > Thank you for your generous support! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?R========= > > > Rediscover Hotmail=C2=AE: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. Check i > t out. > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:00 AM PST US From: Charles Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Aviation Consumer had an article in their February 2004 issue on this. As another listed posted, they found that ALL oxygen is generated to the same standard now. It's cheaper for the manufacturers that way. The Aviation Consumer article details how to re-fill your oxygen cylinders at home. If you are a subscriber to Aviation Consumer, you can go online and do a search for this article. It's titled ROLL YOUR OWN OXYGEN. Charlie Kuss --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Bret Smith wrote: > From: Bret Smith > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:10 AM > WARNING! WARNING! > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to > remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill > scuba tanks. > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > Subject: RV-List: Oxygen > > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, > experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my > little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my > RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used > to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of > threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't > want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my > little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my > Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to > the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem > filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding > shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:49 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Mikey, - Education is key to success in most fields... you may want to do a little m ore research to support your position. - Darrell - "do not archive" --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Mike wrote: From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. - Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro nics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen - WARNING!- WARNING! - The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2!- Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. - Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen - Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers.-- I 'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7.- The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads.- The ga s suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all.- The F BO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is:- Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directl y to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottl e that way?- (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway)-- They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding sh op says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? - -href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http:/ /www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">ht tp://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">htt p://www.matronics.com/c - ---------- - The RV-List Em ail Forum --- --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List--- ----------- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS --- --> http:/ /forums.matronics.com------------ - List Contributi on Web Site -- Thank you for your generous support!------- ---------------------- -Matt Dr alle, List Admin.-- --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -href ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:18 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen You can check out my fill setup here: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/accessories/oxygen/index.html I've been through my local Welding/Medical gas supply shop many times, and have spent lots of times with various gasses, dealing with these places for the Semiconductor industry, the technical Mixed Gas SCUBA industry, and welding. Indeed at least at our local center, ALL of the oxygen filled comes off the same lines, and is all generated from the same Liquid O2 source. There is no CO2/C0 worry, there is no "pumping" factors to deal with. It's just liquid O2 put into bottles, and it's all the exact same O2. The standards that they work under become labeling standards, and in some extreme cases they pump the bottle to a vacuum before filling it. I've purchased Heilum, and Oxygen, for use for deep diving, and have spent hours and hours using and filling oxygen for those purposes too, as Oxygen is used in decompression stops while deep diving, and air/oxygen mixes used for some of the other depths and types of diving. So I had a real concern and verified it by going there and visiting their gas fill area personally. I'd suggest you do that just for your own education...just tell them you're looking at leasing welding O2 and you would like to see how it's filled there, and then ask them what differences they have for filling medical O2...and if they hook up to the same supply. I'd bet yes. That is not to say you don't need to use care in HANDLING the Oxygen. I've personally seen O2 fires start, and things can get out of control in a hurry. So every single item that you're going to have O2 flowing through should be both O2 compatible and O2 clean. This isn't anything too extrordinary... they just must be made for the purpose and not have any greases on them. Additionally, any time you open an O2 bottle, do it slowly. I've felt the air rushing out of a hose from a fast-turn-on, and you'd be surprised at how hot it gets for that couple seconds from adiabatic compression. But just do it slowly, use real O2 hardware, and you will be just fine. (oh, and don't smoke...but if you are a pilot, you probably can't afford to both own planes and cigarettes at the same time anyway, so it's probably not something you need to worry about) Leasing O2 bottles is a great way to go. Just least at least 2, or maybe 3 if you use O2 often, because the more bottles you have the larger the number of totally "full" fills you can get out of it. 2 would be good for the occasional user. 1 probably won't cut it if you really want bottles to end up full....too much volume/pressure drop from the first bottle. Then when one empties, just drop it off and swap them, and they'll charge you only for the contents...maybe $25 or so for a huge bottle. I was lucky enough to have owned about 25 or more large storage cylinders over time, so as I got rid of them I held on to 4 of them for use for my O2 for my aviation filling. Then I just got a little hardware and it's been working out great. There is a lot of misinformation out there, and info that is from the old days of gasses. But just go check it out for yourself. It's easy to learn and understand. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive mr.gsun@gmail.com wrote: > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. > I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross > country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they > are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of > threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to > me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just > to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) > They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at > the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > * ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:21 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen LOL!! Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows how uninformed you are. Your comments about someone being being a republican are way out of line. Do not archive Sent from MY iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: > Not when it comes to my safety > > Sent from my iPhone > Mikey > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer > wrote: > >> You don't like to save money? >> >> Do not archive >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: >> >>> All of this to save money..... Typical GA. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> Mikey >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: >>> >>>> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> WWW.Glasair.org >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>> ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM >>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WARNING! WARNING! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO >>>> and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bret Smith >>>> RV-9A N16BL >>>> Blue Ridge, GA >>>> www.FlightInnovations.com >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com >>>> >>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM >>>> >>>> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV >>>> drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle >>>> filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks >>>> take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and >>>> mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and >>>> welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that >>>> fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. >>>> >>>> My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank >>>> directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set >>>> and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large >>>> tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank >>>> for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the >>>> same anyway. >>>> >>>> Comments? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >>>> >>>> >>>> - The RV-List Email Forum - >>>> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>>> --> http://forums.matronics.com >>>> - List Contribution Web Site - >>>> Thank you for your generous support! >>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:28 PM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Darell, I am good with education, thanks. Until the industry changes it SOP, that is what I am going with. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Darrell Reiley wrote: > Mikey, > > Education is key to success in most fields... you may want to do a > little more research to support your position. > > Darrell > > "do not archive" > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Mike wrote: > > > From: Mike > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > To: "rv-list@matronics.com" > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 1:19 PM > > > Not when it comes to my safety > > Sent from my iPhone > Mikey > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer > wrote: > > > You don't like to save money? > > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: > > > All of this to save money..... Typical GA. > > Sent from my iPhone > Mikey > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > > > SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > WARNING! WARNING! > > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and > CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > > Subject: RV-List: Oxygen > > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV > drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled > for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever > because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a > different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops > don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and > the guy at the welding sh ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:40 PM PST US From: Dana Overall Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Jerry=2C the reason I didn't respond to his=2C again uninformed=2C statemen t is I never enter into a battle of wits with the unarmed. Dana Overall Richmond=2C KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta=2C useta=2C kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive From: jsflyrv@verizon.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen LOL!! Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of showshow uninformed you are.Your com ments about someone beingbeing a republican are way out of line. Do not archive Sent from MY iPhone On Apr 30=2C 2009=2C at 11:19 AM=2C Mike wrote: Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhoneMikey On Apr 30=2C 2009=2C at 10:48 AM=2C Jerry Springer wr ote: You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30=2C 2009=2C at 10:14 AM=2C Mike wrote: All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhoneMikey On Apr 30=2C 2009=2C at 8:59 AM=2C "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air=2C NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday=2C April 30=2C 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge=2C GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday=2C April 30=2C 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY=2C experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine h as a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding sho p says the oxygen is the same anyway. 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He appears only to be interested in some official certification of anything - if the government doesn't certify it, he doesn't believe it. My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea of flying an airplane that hasn't had every nut, bolt screw and electron blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare the crap out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worries. How does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not certified. It must be a scary world he lives in. I can't allow myself to speculate about what the republican remark was all about, but it somehow fits with the rest of it. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen LOL!! Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows how uninformed you are. Your comments about someone being being a republican are way out of line. Do not archive Sent from MY iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. 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Any one who really gives a crap please raise your hand> This thread has yielded some very good stuff along with the adolescent stuff. lets give it a decent burial. Denis Sent from my emac. On Apr 30, 2009, at 1:28 , Mike wrote: > > Darell, > > I am good with education, thanks. Until the industry changes it SOP, > that is what I am going with. > > Sent from my iPhone > Mikey > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Darrell Reiley > wrote: > >> Mikey, >> >> Education is key to success in most fields... you may want to do a >> little more research to support your position. >> >> Darrell >> >> "do not archive" >> >> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Mike wrote: >> >> >> From: Mike >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >> To: "rv-list@matronics.com" >> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 1:19 PM >> >> >> >> Not when it comes to my safety >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Mikey >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> You don't like to save money? >> >> >> Do not archive >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> All of this to save money..... Typical GA. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Mikey >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. >> >> >> Bruce >> WWW.Glasair.org >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >> >> >> WARNING! WARNING! >> >> >> >> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and >> CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. >> >> >> >> Bret Smith >> RV-9A N16BL >> Blue Ridge, GA >> www.FlightInnovations.com >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com >> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM >> >> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen >> >> >> Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV >> drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle >> filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take >> forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has >> a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas >> shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is >> not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. >> >> My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank >> directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set >> and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank >> anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me >> and the guy at the welding sh > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:21 PM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Jerry, How about a fricken sense of humor guys!!!!! Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Jerry Springer wrote: > LOL!! > > Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows > how uninformed you are. > Your comments about someone being > being a republican are way out of line. > > Do not archive > Sent from MY iPhone > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: > >> Not when it comes to my safety >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Mikey >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer >> wrote: >> >>> You don't like to save money? >>> >>> Do not archive >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: >>> >>>> All of this to save money..... Typical GA. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> Mikey >>>> >>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruce >>>>> WWW.Glasair.org >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>>> ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM >>>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WARNING! WARNING! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO >>>>> and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bret Smith >>>>> RV-9A N16BL >>>>> Blue Ridge, GA >>>>> www.FlightInnovations.com >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV >>>>> drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle >>>>> filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks >>>>> take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and >>>>> mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and >>>>> welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that >>>>> fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. >>>>> >>>>> My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little >>>>> tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne >>>>> torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of >>>>> my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping >>>>> that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen >>>>> is the same anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Comments? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - The RV-List Email Forum - >>>>> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>>>> --> http://forums.matronics.com >>>>> - List Contribution Web Site - >>>>> Thank you for your generous support! >>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>> --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>> >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>> >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:51 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen You know, I keep hoping this list will positively support each other. Good argument, not derision. On both sides. I have been enjoying this discussion about oxygen, but let's keep it a discussion about oxygen and not about what each labels the other. But, I'm sure I'm pissing into the wind.... John _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Jerry, You assume that Mike is interested in facts. He appears only to be interested in some official certification of anything - if the government doesn't certify it, he doesn't believe it. My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea of flying an airplane that hasn't had every nut, bolt screw and electron blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare the crap out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worries. How does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not certified. It must be a scary world he lives in. I can't allow myself to speculate about what the republican remark was all about, but it somehow fits with the rest of it. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen LOL!! Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows how uninformed you are. Your comments about someone being being a republican are way out of line. Do not archive Sent from MY iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. Comments? href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c - The RV-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 02:19:48 PM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Terry, You are completely off with what my whole point was. But you have a right to speak your opinion like I do. Don't be so quick to guess what I do or what I know. My whole point is be safe. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 1:48 PM, "Terry Watson" wrote: > Jerry, > > > You assume that Mike is interested in facts. He appears only to be > interested in some official certification of anything =93 if the gover > nment doesn=99t certify it, he doesn=99t believe it. > > > My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental > aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea > of flying an airplane that hasn=99t had every nut, bolt screw and elec > tron blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare t > he crap out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worr > ies. How does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not c > ertified. > > > It must be a scary world he lives in. I can=99t allow myself to specul > ate about what the republican remark was all about, but it somehow f > its with the rest of it. > > > Terry > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > LOL!! > > > Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows > > how uninformed you are. > > Your comments about someone being > > being a republican are way out of line. > > > Do not archive > Sent from MY iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: > > Not when it comes to my safety > > Sent from my iPhone > > Mikey > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer > wrote: > > You don't like to save money? > > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: > > All of this to save money..... Typical GA. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Mikey > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > > SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > WARNING! WARNING! > > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and > CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > > Subject: RV-List: Oxygen > > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV > drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled > for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever > because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a > different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops > don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and > the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > - The RV-List Email Forum - > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> http://forums.matronics.com > - List Contribution Web Site - > Thank you for your generous support! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:14 PM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Dennis, Well said!!! Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Denis Walsh wrote: > > I have an iphone and I was once a Republican I also use oxygen. > > Any one who really gives a crap please raise your hand> > > > This thread has yielded some very good stuff along with the > adolescent stuff. lets give it a decent burial. > > Denis > > Sent from my emac. > On Apr 30, 2009, at 1:28 , Mike wrote: > >> >> Darell, >> >> I am good with education, thanks. Until the industry changes it >> SOP, that is what I am going with. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Mikey >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Darrell Reiley > > wrote: >> >>> Mikey, >>> >>> Education is key to success in most fields... you may want to do a >>> little more research to support your position. >>> >>> Darrell >>> >>> "do not archive" >>> >>> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Mike wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Mike >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >>> To: "rv-list@matronics.com" >>> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 1:19 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> Not when it comes to my safety >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> Mikey >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> You don't like to save money? >>> >>> >>> Do not archive >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> All of this to save money..... Typical GA. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> Mikey >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. >>> >>> >>> Bruce >>> WWW.Glasair.org >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>> ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith >>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen >>> >>> >>> WARNING! WARNING! >>> >>> >>> >>> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO >>> and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bret Smith >>> RV-9A N16BL >>> Blue Ridge, GA >>> www.FlightInnovations.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com >>> >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM >>> >>> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen >>> >>> >>> Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV >>> drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle >>> filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks >>> take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and >>> mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and >>> welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that >>> fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. >>> >>> My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank >>> directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set >>> and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank >>> anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me >>> and the guy at the welding sh >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:48 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen No, you are right John. My apologies to the list. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:17 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen You know, I keep hoping this list will positively support each other. Good argument, not derision. On both sides. I have been enjoying this discussion about oxygen, but let's keep it a discussion about oxygen and not about what each labels the other. But, I'm sure I'm pissing into the wind.... John _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Jerry, You assume that Mike is interested in facts. He appears only to be interested in some official certification of anything - if the government doesn't certify it, he doesn't believe it. My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea of flying an airplane that hasn't had every nut, bolt screw and electron blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare the crap out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worries. How does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not certified. It must be a scary world he lives in. I can't allow myself to speculate about what the republican remark was all about, but it somehow fits with the rest of it. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen LOL!! Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows how uninformed you are. Your comments about someone being being a republican are way out of line. Do not archive Sent from MY iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. 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Jerry do not archive Terry Watson wrote: > > No, you are right John. My apologies to the list. > > Terry > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Jessen > *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:17 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV-List: Oxygen > > You know, I keep hoping this list will positively support each other. > Good argument, not derision. On both sides. I have been enjoying this > discussion about oxygen, but let's keep it a discussion about oxygen > and not about what each labels the other. > > But, I'm sure I'm pissing into the wind.... > > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Terry Watson > *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:48 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV-List: Oxygen > > Jerry, > > You assume that Mike is interested in facts. He appears only to be > interested in some official certification of anything if the > government doesnt certify it, he doesnt believe it. > > My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental > aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea of > flying an airplane that hasnt had every nut, bolt screw and electron > blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare the crap > out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worries. How > does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not certified. > > It must be a scary world he lives in. I cant allow myself to > speculate about what the republican remark was all about, but it > somehow fits with the rest of it. > > Terry > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Springer > *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > LOL!! > > > Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows > > how uninformed you are. > > Your comments about someone being > > being a republican are way out of line. > > Do not archive > Sent from MY iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike > wrote: > > Not when it comes to my safety > > Sent from my iPhone > > Mikey > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer > wrote: > > You don't like to save money? > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike > wrote: > > All of this to save money..... Typical GA. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Mikey > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" > > wrote: > > *SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2.* > > * * > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf > Of *Bret Smith > *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > WARNING! WARNING! > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to > remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that > fill scuba tanks. > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* mr.gsun@gmail.com > > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > > *Subject:* RV-List: Oxygen > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, > experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles > getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross > country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take > forever because they are used to swapping out > bottles and mine has a different type of threads. > The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want > to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect > my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle > on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle > that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that > tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says > the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * * > > * * > > * - The RV-List Email Forum -* > > * --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > * - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -* > > * --> http://forums.matronics.com* > > * - List Contribution Web Site -* > > * Thank you for your generous support!* > > * -Matt Dralle, List Admin.* > > * --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * * > * * > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > *http://forums.matronics.com* > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > * * > * * > * * > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > ** > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:06 PM PST US From: Dana Overall Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Here ya go gang=2C read all you want on the subject: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=28412&highlight= roll+oxygen Dana Overall Richmond=2C KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta=2C useta=2C kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail=AE: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_ Mobile2_042009 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:40 PM PST US From: Mike Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen Dito Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 2:48 PM, "Terry Watson" wrote: > No, you are right John. My apologies to the list. > > > Terry > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of John Jessen > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:17 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen > > > You know, I keep hoping this list will positively support each > other. Good argument, not derision. On both sides. I have been > enjoying this discussion about oxygen, but let's keep it a > discussion about oxygen and not about what each labels the other. > > > But, I'm sure I'm pissing into the wind.... > > > John > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Terry Watson > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:48 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen > > Jerry, > > > You assume that Mike is interested in facts. He appears only to be > interested in some official certification of anything =93 if the gover > nment doesn=99t certify it, he doesn=99t believe it. > > > My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental > aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea > of flying an airplane that hasn=99t had every nut, bolt screw and elec > tron blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare t > he crap out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worr > ies. How does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not c > ertified. > > > It must be a scary world he lives in. I can=99t allow myself to specul > ate about what the republican remark was all about, but it somehow f > its with the rest of it. > > > Terry > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > LOL!! > > > Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows > > how uninformed you are. > > Your comments about someone being > > being a republican are way out of line. > > > Do not archive > Sent from MY iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: > > Not when it comes to my safety > > Sent from my iPhone > > Mikey > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer > wrote: > > You don't like to save money? > > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: > > All of this to save money..... Typical GA. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Mikey > > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > > SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Bret Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen > > > WARNING! WARNING! > > > The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and > CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. > > > Bret Smith > RV-9A N16BL > Blue Ridge, GA > www.FlightInnovations.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM > > Subject: RV-List: Oxygen > > > Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV > drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled > for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever > because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a > different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops > don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not > convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. > > My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank > directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and > fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank > anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and > the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. > > Comments? > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > - The RV-List Email Forum - > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > --> http://forums.matronics.com > - List Contribution Web Site - > Thank you for your generous support! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution > > 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LO L=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Denis Walsh =0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:10:05 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen=0A=0A--> RV-List message po sted by: Denis Walsh =0A=0AI have an iphone and I was once a Republican- I also use oxygen.=0A=0AAny one who really gives a crap please raise your hand>=0A=0A=0AThis thread has yielded some very goo d stuff along with the adolescent stuff.- lets give it a decent burial. =0A=0ADenis=0A=0ASent from my emac.=0AOn Apr 30, 2009, at 1:28 , Mike wrote > Darell,=0A> =0A> I am good with education, thanks. Until the industry cha nges it SOP, that is what I am going with.=0A> =0A> Sent from my iPhone=0A> Mikey=0A> =0A> On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Darrell Reiley wrote:=0A> =0A>> Mikey,=0A>> =0A>> Education is key to succe ss in most fields... you may want to do a little more research to support y our position.=0A>> =0A>> Darrell=0A>> =0A>> "do not archive"=0A>> =0A>> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Mike wrote:=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> From: Mike =0A>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen=0A>> To: "rv -list@matronics.com" =0A>> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 1:19 PM=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Not when it comes to my safety=0A>> =0A>> Sent from my iPhone=0A>> Mikey=0A>> =0A>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 A M, Jerry Springer wrote:=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> You don't like to save money?=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Do not archive=0A>> =0A>> Sent from my iPhone=0A>> =0A>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote:=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> All of this t o save money..... Typical GA.=0A>> =0A>> Sent from my iPhone=0A>> Mikey=0A> > =0A>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote :=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Bruce=0A>> WWW.Glasair.org=0A>> -----Original Message---- -=0A>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-serve r@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith=0A>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 200 9 11:11 AM=0A>> To: rv-list@matronics.com=0A>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> WARNING!- WARNING!=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2!- Check with l ocal dive shops that fill scuba tanks.=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Bret Smith=0A >> RV-9A N16BL=0A>> Blue Ridge, GA=0A>> www.FlightInnovations.com=0A>> =0A> > =0A>> ----- Original Message -----=0A>> =0A>> From: mr.gsun@gmail.com=0A> > =0A>> To: rv-list@matronics.com=0A>> =0A>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM=0A>> =0A>> Subject: RV-List: Oxygen=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Here's a ques tion for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers.- I'm having hassle s getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV 7.- The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads.- The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all.- The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up.=0A>> =0A>> My question is:- Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my lar ge oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? - (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway)- They have no problem fi lling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding sh=0A> =0A> =0A> ===============0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:29 PM PST US From: "Dave Saylor" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Time to end this thread, or at least get back on the subject. DO NOT ARCHIVE _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Oxygen Jerry, You assume that Mike is interested in facts. He appears only to be interested in some official certification of anything - if the government doesn't certify it, he doesn't believe it. My question is what he is doing on a list devoted to experimental aviation. By the very definition, it is uncertified. The whole idea of flying an airplane that hasn't had every nut, bolt screw and electron blessed by those who must be of Superior Knowledge must scare the crap out of him. Unblessed oxygen should be the least of his worries. How does he dare take a breath on the ground? Free air is not certified. It must be a scary world he lives in. I can't allow myself to speculate about what the republican remark was all about, but it somehow fits with the rest of it. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen LOL!! Has nothing to do with safety. Kind of shows how uninformed you are. Your comments about someone being being a republican are way out of line. Do not archive Sent from MY iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Mike wrote: Not when it comes to my safety Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: You don't like to save money? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Mike wrote: All of this to save money..... Typical GA. Sent from my iPhone Mikey On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:59 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: SCUBA is compressed air, NOT O2. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Oxygen WARNING! WARNING! The O2 filled by the welding shops is NOT filtered to remove CO and CO2! Check with local dive shops that fill scuba tanks. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: mr.gsun@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: RV-List: Oxygen Here's a question for you experienced DIY, experimental RV drivers. I'm having hassles getting my little oxygen bottle filled for cross country flights in my RV7. The medical folks take forever because they are used to swapping out bottles and mine has a different type of threads. The gas suppliers and welding gas shops don't want to talk to me at all. The FBO that fills it is not convenient and wants $50 just to hook it up. My question is: Can I get the fittings to connect my little tank directly to my large oxygen bottle on my Oxy-acetelyne torch set and fill my bottle that way? (Up to the pressure of my large tank anyway) They have no problem filling/swapping that tank for me and the guy at the welding shop says the oxygen is the same anyway. 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