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Sat 05/09/09


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 06:49 AM - re- glazed cylinder (Jim)
     2. 10:49 AM - Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (Matt Dralle)
     3. 11:14 AM - RV-8 Side Consoles (Robin Marks)
     4. 11:50 AM - Oregon Mogas & HB3177 (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
     5. 11:51 AM - Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (Kyle Boatright)
     6. 01:12 PM - Re: RV-8 Side Consoles (Charles Kuss)
     7. 04:39 PM - Button Labeling For Infinity Stick Grips... (Matt Dralle)
     8. 05:05 PM - Button Labeling For Infinity Stick Grips... (Matt Dralle)
     9. 07:08 PM - Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (Ralph E. Capen)
    10. 07:13 PM - Securing an RV-7 outboard leading edge (leschampmd@aol.com)
    11. 07:28 PM - Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (Matt Dralle)
    12. 07:53 PM - Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (Ralph E. Capen)
    13. 07:53 PM - Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (Rob Kochman)
    14. 08:52 PM - Re: Securing an RV-7 outboard leading edge (Charlie England)
    15. 11:42 PM - Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... (dmaib@mac.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:49:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jim" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: re- glazed cylinder
    I just received an email asking how I knew that the cylinders on my O- 360 had become glazed. I promptly lost the email in the fog of a too early morning. Send again please. Jim in Kelowna Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.1.1 - 10.100.128). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/


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    Time: 10:49:48 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    Fellow Builders, I'm getting ready to mount the COM (Commant bent whips) and Transponder (Commant shark fin) antennas on the bottom of the RV-8. I plan to mount them to the bottom fuselage skin right behind the aileron torque tubes. I think this is something like .040" skin and its pretty rigid, but what are people's thoughts on adding a skin doubler, perhaps a .032 piece something like 6"x8"? I'd rather not, but on the other hand, I don't want to have the skin end up deformed over time. Thanks in advance. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82882 N998RV Laying Out Carpet in CAD...


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    Time: 11:14:53 AM PST US
    Subject: RV-8 Side Consoles
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Can anyone refer me to photos of side consoles for an RV-8/A. I remember seeing builders modify the side brackets for more surface area and maybe even a slightly different angle to mount switches, breakers or ??? Any photos would be appreciated. Robin


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    Time: 11:50:51 AM PST US
    From: Jerry2DT@aol.com
    Subject: Oregon Mogas & HB3177
    Folks, Seems there is a bit of light at the end of the tunnel for Oregon Mogas users. HB3177 proposes to remove Ethanol from 91 octane mogas, if the Guv signs it, that is. The bill is here: _http://www.leg.state.or.us/09reg/measpdf/hb3100.dir/hb3177.intro.pdf_ (http://www.leg.state.or.us/09reg/measpdf/hb3100.dir/hb3177.intro.pdf) Seems boaters, classic car folks, hot rodders, as well as our own efforts have made a diff. So Oregon pilots, please call or email your legislators or Guv Kulongoski and support passage of HB3177 whether you use mogas or not. Thanks, Jerry Cochran **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)


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    Time: 11:51:53 AM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    I used doublers for both my belly mounted antennae and have 600+ problem free hours. Cracking was my main worry, with the antenna wiggling in the prop slipstream. Also, I'm aware of cracking on antenna mounts on spam cans, so I figured what the heck. I would guess my doublers extend an inch or two beyond the perimeter of the antenna bases, if that helps. I also think I used a skim of proseal between those doublers and the skin. Of course, I'd probably never have seen a crack anyway, but ya never know. Kyle Boatright 2001 RV-6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: RV-List: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... > > > Fellow Builders, > > I'm getting ready to mount the COM (Commant bent whips) and Transponder > (Commant shark fin) antennas on the bottom of the RV-8. I plan to mount > them to the bottom fuselage skin right behind the aileron torque tubes. I > think this is something like .040" skin and its pretty rigid, but what are > people's thoughts on adding a skin doubler, perhaps a .032 piece something > like 6"x8"? I'd rather not, but on the other hand, I don't want to have > the skin end up deformed over time. > > Thanks in advance. > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82882 N998RV > Laying Out Carpet in CAD... > > >


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    Time: 01:12:23 PM PST US
    From: Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-8 Side Consoles
    Hi Robin, I suspect I'm the guilty party. I'll email you photos, off list. Charlie Kuss RV-8A wiring --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> wrote: > From: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com> > Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Side Consoles > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 2:07 PM > <robin1@mrmoisture.com> > > Can anyone refer me to photos of side consoles for an > RV-8/A. I remember > seeing builders modify the side brackets for more surface > area and maybe > even a slightly different angle to mount switches, breakers > or ??? Any > photos would be appreciated. > > Robin > >


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    Time: 04:39:49 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Button Labeling For Infinity Stick Grips...
    Dear Listers, I've been pondering for a while how to "label" the various button functions of the Infinity stick grips I have wired up in the front and back of the RV-8. I spent some time today with the 'ol CAD program making a caricature drawing of the Infinity stick grip and buttons and adding some labeling. My plan is to silk screen the attached layout right to the instrument panel in the front, and to a small metal piece for the back. The cockpit and instrument panel will be black, so the diagram should pop nicely on that background. Just thought I'd pass on my efforts. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 Laying Out Carpet Patterns In CAD...


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    Time: 05:05:20 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Button Labeling For Infinity Stick Grips...
    Dear Listers, I've been pondering for a while how to "label" the various button functions of the Infinity stick grips I have wired up in the front and back of the RV-8. I spent some time today with the 'ol CAD program making a caricature drawing of the Infinity stick grip and buttons and adding some labeling. My plan is to silk screen the attached layout right to the instrument panel in the front, and to a small metal piece for the back. The cockpit and instrument panel will be black, so the diagram should pop nicely on that background. Just thought I'd pass on my efforts. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 Laying Out Carpet Patterns In CAD...


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    Time: 07:08:50 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    I put a .032 doubler on my bent whip mounting skin - want pictures? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: RV-List: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... > > > Fellow Builders, > > I'm getting ready to mount the COM (Commant bent whips) and Transponder > (Commant shark fin) antennas on the bottom of the RV-8. I plan to mount > them to the bottom fuselage skin right behind the aileron torque tubes. I > think this is something like .040" skin and its pretty rigid, but what are > people's thoughts on adding a skin doubler, perhaps a .032 piece something > like 6"x8"? I'd rather not, but on the other hand, I don't want to have > the skin end up deformed over time. > > Thanks in advance. > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82882 N998RV > Laying Out Carpet in CAD... > > >


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    Time: 07:13:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Securing an RV-7 outboard leading edge
    From: leschampmd@aol.com
    I am building the wing of an RV-7A and need help on?fastening the outboard leading edge ribs to the main spar. The job is obviously 2-man work, but how how those of you who have built this wing fastened those ribs to the spars? have you managed to use AN470-4 rivets and if so, how did you accomplish this? I ask the question because there is no room for a?double offset cupped set to fit a rivet head. Have you used a special tool or modified the set? Have you used "pop" rived instead of solid ones? If, what rivets? Thanks, Bill


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    Time: 07:28:58 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    Of course! Thank you! Post them. Matt Dralle At 07:00 PM 5/9/2009 Saturday, you wrote: > >I put a .032 doubler on my bent whip mounting skin - want pictures? > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> >To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>; <rv-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:46 PM >Subject: RV-List: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... > > >> >> >>Fellow Builders, >> >>I'm getting ready to mount the COM (Commant bent whips) and Transponder (Commant shark fin) antennas on the bottom of the RV-8. I plan to mount them to the bottom fuselage skin right behind the aileron torque tubes. I think this is something like .040" skin and its pretty rigid, but what are people's thoughts on adding a skin doubler, perhaps a .032 piece something like 6"x8"? I'd rather not, but on the other hand, I don't want to have the skin end up deformed over time. >> >>Thanks in advance. >> >>Matt Dralle >>RV-8 #82882 N998RV >>Laying Out Carpet in CAD... >> >> >> >> > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 07:53:38 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    Matt, I just posted a bunch of pictures IAW the instructions on the main website and copied you..... Hope they help, Ralph Capen RV6A N822AR @ N06 12.1 hours on the 40.......yeeeeehaaaaaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... > > Of course! > > Thank you! Post them. > > Matt Dralle > > > At 07:00 PM 5/9/2009 Saturday, you wrote: >> >>I put a .032 doubler on my bent whip mounting skin - want pictures? >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> >>To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>; <rv-list@matronics.com> >>Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:46 PM >>Subject: RV-List: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... >> >> >>> >>> >>>Fellow Builders, >>> >>>I'm getting ready to mount the COM (Commant bent whips) and Transponder >>>(Commant shark fin) antennas on the bottom of the RV-8. I plan to mount >>>them to the bottom fuselage skin right behind the aileron torque tubes. >>>I think this is something like .040" skin and its pretty rigid, but what >>>are people's thoughts on adding a skin doubler, perhaps a .032 piece >>>something like 6"x8"? I'd rather not, but on the other hand, I don't >>>want to have the skin end up deformed over time. >>> >>>Thanks in advance. >>> >>>Matt Dralle >>>RV-8 #82882 N998RV >>>Laying Out Carpet in CAD... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > >


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    Time: 07:53:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    While we're on the subject, anyone have a picture of their "V" nav/gs antenna install on the bottom of the fuselage, near the rear of the tailcone? I'm not sure where to mount it and bring the wires in. On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > > Of course! > > Thank you! Post them. > > Matt Dralle > > > At 07:00 PM 5/9/2009 Saturday, you wrote: > > > >I put a .032 doubler on my bent whip mounting skin - want pictures? > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> > >To: <rv8-list@matronics.com>; <rv-list@matronics.com> > >Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:46 PM > >Subject: RV-List: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin... > > > > > >> > >> > >>Fellow Builders, > >> > >>I'm getting ready to mount the COM (Commant bent whips) and Transponder > (Commant shark fin) antennas on the bottom of the RV-8. I plan to mount > them to the bottom fuselage skin right behind the aileron torque tubes. I > think this is something like .040" skin and its pretty rigid, but what are > people's thoughts on adding a skin doubler, perhaps a .032 piece something > like 6"x8"? I'd rather not, but on the other hand, I don't want to have the > skin end up deformed over time. > >> > >>Thanks in advance. > >> > >>Matt Dralle > >>RV-8 #82882 N998RV > >>Laying Out Carpet in CAD... > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Wings Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 08:52:21 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Securing an RV-7 outboard leading edge
    leschampmd@aol.com wrote: > I am building the wing of an RV-7A and need help on fastening the > outboard leading edge ribs to the main spar. The job is obviously > 2-man work, but how how those of you who have built this wing fastened > those ribs to the spars? have you managed to use AN470-4 rivets and if > so, how did you accomplish this? I ask the question because there is > no room for a double offset cupped set to fit a rivet head. Have you > used a special tool or modified the set? Have you used "pop" rived > instead of solid ones? If, what rivets? > Thanks, > Bill I had rotten luck with offset sets. It's been a while since I did it, but if I remember correctly, I used a long straight set & warped the rib to the side slightly. The combination made room for the gun. Charlie


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    Time: 11:42:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mounting Antennas On Bottom Fuselage Skin...
    From: "dmaib@mac.com" <dmaib@mac.com>
    Here is my installation on the RV-10. Doubler on the inside. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=243369#243369 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0718_735.jpg




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