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1. 06:29 AM - Re: XM Weather Delays (Bret Smith)
2. 09:15 AM - removing nose gear wheel. (thomas sargent)
3. 09:54 AM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Bret Smith)
4. 10:19 AM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Larry Bowen)
5. 11:00 AM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Garry)
6. 02:47 PM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Jim)
7. 03:04 PM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Karl Ahamer)
8. 03:29 PM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (John Morgensen)
9. 05:39 PM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Denis Walsh)
10. 06:26 PM - RV-8 F-830C-1 Floor Stiffeners - When To Rivet... (Matt Dralle)
11. 07:06 PM - Re: removing nose gear wheel. (Richard Seiders)
12. 07:28 PM - Re: RV-8 F-830C-1 Floor Stiffeners - When To Rivet... (Kevin Horton)
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Subject: | Re: XM Weather Delays |
Bill,
This makes sense but is irrelevant to me as I have an indicator in my
lower right corner of the screen that "flashes" one of four XM states:
XM Diagnostics
The XM status message and logo will indicated the current XM receiver
status using the following messages:
Screen has found the receiver and is connecting to it.
Screen is receiving the XM data for the first time since turning on.
The XM/WX letters will flash from green to white as data is being
received.
The receiver has lost communications and is resetting the unit.
The WxWorx receiver does not distinguish between the different data
types it is downloading....
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
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From: Bill Schlatterer
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: XM Weather Delays
Not sure if correct but this seems right! Couldn't find it back on
the AOPA site but found this from a report on the older Garmin units.
"There is a wide variety of weather info sent to the unit other than
just the NEXRAD radar images, and they all update at different time
intervals. The NEXRAD data is updated on a 5 minute cycle and storm
cells are updated every 1.25 minutes. On the other end of the spectrum,
the Satellite Mosaic updates every 15 minutes and the Marine Warnings
update every 20 minutes. "
Bill S
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Schlatterer
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:34 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: XM Weather Delays
Sure but remember that facts are only good on the day they are tested
and printed. Next day,.... different system, different software,
different facts ;-) Truth is that whatever weather you are getting is
invaluable compared to anything short of real radar and a stormscope!
Bill S
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:47 AM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: XM Weather Delays
Thanks Bill,
You would think that XM would communicate these facts in their own
documentation so we would not have to rely on AOPA for the REAL facts.
Bret
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From: Bill Schlatterer
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: XM Weather Delays
Bret, according to the AOPA course on Weather Nexrad, some units
won't refresh for considerable periods if there is no activity close by.
Normal refresh should be less than 6 minutes and less than 2 if there
are cells nearby. ( just what it says ) My Garmin 396 is never more
than 6 minutes old when there is any weather nearby and usually less.
Bill S
7a finishing
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:23 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: XM Weather Delays
Garry,
I would verify that your XM antenna has a clear view to the sky and
that there are no problems with the wiring and connections. I have the
same setup except using an AFS EFIS/EM and I get refreshes every 5
minutes.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, Ga
www.FlightInnovations.com
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Garry
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:34 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: XM Weather Delays
I have an XM "aviator lite" weather subscription, received by a WX
WORX receiver and interfaced to my Grand Rapids EFIS. It routinely
takes 12 minutes or so after I've fired up the avionics before I get a
radar picture. Then when flying on a long cross country I sometimes see
messages saying "radar data 21 minutes old". I thought XM sent out
refreshed packages no more than 5 minutes apart. My friend has a Garmin
496 and he says he acquires a radar picture within 2 minutes and never
sees anything older than 5 minutes.
What gives with my system? In reading the latest issue of Kitplane
magazine they say that Garmin has their own "built in" receiver, whereas
I have a separate stand-alone box. Could there be something inferior or
malfunctioning with my WX WORX receiver? Has anyone had a similar
experience?
Garry Stout
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Subject: | removing nose gear wheel. |
How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel and
fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine hoist, but
I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting eye from the
engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors jack under the end of
the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
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Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
I have someone push down on the rear fuse while I put 3-4 2x4's under
the nosegear nut.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
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From: thomas sargent
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: RV-List: removing nose gear wheel.
How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel and
fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine hoist,
but I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting eye from
the engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors jack under
the end of the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
Some have used sandbags on the root end of the HS to make the nose very
light. IE, lift it with one hand.
Why is it necessary to remove the "lifting eye" from the engine? It will be
used again someday. I've never heard of it being taken just because your
ready to fly....
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Sent from Welcome, NC, United States
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Bret Smith <smithhb@tds.net> wrote:
> I have someone push down on the rear fuse while I put 3-4 2x4's under the
> nosegear nut.
>
> Bret Smith
> RV-9A N16BL
> Blue Ridge, GA
> www.FlightInnovations.com
>
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> *From:* thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:13 PM
> *Subject:* RV-List: removing nose gear wheel.
>
> How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel and
> fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine hoist, but
> I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting eye from the
> engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors jack under the end of
> the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
>
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
I drilled a hole in the concrete floor of my hanger and installed a
heavy duty eye bolt............directly underneath the tail tie down
ring. Then I bought a cheap ratcheting strap with two hooks on each end
and I simply ratchet the tail down until the nose gear is off the
ground. Works great for nose wheel and fairing maintenance.
Garry Stout
flying RV-7A
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From: thomas sargent
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: RV-List: removing nose gear wheel.
How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel and
fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine hoist,
but I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting eye from
the engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors jack under
the end of the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
Tom,
I use a low profile automotive hydraulic floor jack.
A 3/8" thick piece of plywood is used to protect the threads on the end
of the nose gear strut. A temporary protective plug made out of tough
plastic could be made if the use of a lathe is available.
Jacking this way has become a bit easier to do with the advent of the
new added nose wheel leg ground clearance height.
The hydraulic jack allows for very fine axle/fork height adjustment so
that the axle bolt can be slipped in or out of place with the wheel just
resting on the ground.
Jim in Kelowna
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From: thomas sargent
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: RV-List: removing nose gear wheel.
How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel and
fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine hoist,
but I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting eye from
the engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors jack under
the end of the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
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Subject: | removing nose gear wheel. |
Put a sling onto the engine mount and lift it there.
Karl 7A
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent
Sent: Friday, 5 June 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: RV-List: removing nose gear wheel.
How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel and
fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine hoist, but
I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting eye from the
engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors jack under the end of
the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
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Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
18:00:00
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
I use a Harbor Freight motorcycle lift to raise all 3 wheels at onece:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cpM5MJHMDgu9ZoQwA1yAOw?feat=directlink
John Morgensen
AA1B - flying
RV9A - wiring
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
I use a couple sandbags on the horizontal stab.
Good rule of thumb. Don't never use the engine lifting eye for
anything other than lifting the engine! Even then be sure it is
"free". If you tear out a chunk of the engine case it will ruin your
whole day.
I have also used someone pushing down on the tail while I shove some
blocks under the nose strut.
It is my personal opinion that the belly skin is not a good choice for
hoisting the plane. Maybe ok with a Grumman Iron Works plane, but not
an RV-6A. If you want to try that one, I would run it by the
structures guys at Van's .
On Jun 4, 2009, at 10:13 , thomas sargent wrote:
> How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel
> and fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine
> hoist, but I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting
> eye from the engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors
> jack under the end of the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
>
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
>
>
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Subject: | RV-8 F-830C-1 Floor Stiffeners - When To Rivet... |
RV-8 Builders:
In Section 8 of the builders manual (Page 8-50 for the 4/26/07 rev), Drawing 77,
it appears that they are having you hold off riveting the floor stiffeners along
the sides of the stick mount until *after* the floor skins are installed
rather than before they are installed. Is this because there's no way you can
get the floor skins into the right position once these stiffeners are riveted
on? I'm referring to F-830C-1 Floor Stiffeners.
That's kind of a bummer to have to try to rivet those after the skin is installed
for obvious reasons, but begs a bigger question; what about down the road when
you might have to remove the floor skins for some reason. Do you have to
drill those stiffener rivets out too? Ugg...
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
Second Try On The Wheel Pants...
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Subject: | Re: removing nose gear wheel. |
Get someone to push down the tail and place a sawhorse under the fuse
just behind the xhaust stacks.
At 12:13 PM 6/4/2009, you wrote:
>How do people normally prop up the plane to remove the nose wheel
>and fairing (6A/7A)? During construction I've been using the engine
>hoist, but I'm in final assembly now and have to remove the lifting
>eye from the engine. Is it OK (or even possible) to put a scissors
>jack under the end of the nose gear? Is there a better way ?
>
>--
>Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly
>
>
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Subject: | Re: RV-8 F-830C-1 Floor Stiffeners - When To Rivet... |
On 4 Jun 2009, at 21:24, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> In Section 8 of the builders manual (Page 8-50 for the 4/26/07 rev),
> Drawing 77, it appears that they are having you hold off riveting
> the floor stiffeners along the sides of the stick mount until
> *after* the floor skins are installed rather than before they are
> installed. Is this because there's no way you can get the floor
> skins into the right position once these stiffeners are riveted on?
> I'm referring to F-830C-1 Floor Stiffeners.
>
> That's kind of a bummer to have to try to rivet those after the skin
> is installed for obvious reasons, but begs a bigger question; what
> about down the road when you might have to remove the floor skins
> for some reason. Do you have to drill those stiffener rivets out
> too? Ugg...
Short version - Try inserting the floors with the stiffeners clecoed
in place, and the issues will immediately be apparent.
Long version - My kit is a lot older than yours, but I think the
issues are similar. You need to push the floors outboard as you slip
them in place, to slide the outer edges of the floors between the
angles that support them, and the flanges on the 805 and 806 ribs on
the fuselage sides. But, with the stiffeners in place, the ends of
the stiffeners straddle the floor ribs, which prevents you from
sliding the floors sideways. I wanted my floors to be removable, so I
trimmed the corners off the stiffeners, and the same on the bottoms of
the flanges on the 805 and 806 ribs on the fuselage sides. I still
have to utter a few choice words to wiggle them in and out of place,
but it is doable.
--
Kevin Horton (Grounded)
RV-8 (Flight Test Phase)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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