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1. 05:11 AM - Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (n8zg@mchsi.com)
2. 05:19 AM - Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (Ralph E. Capen)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (Ron Lee)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: Official RV-List Usage Guidelines (Roger Smart)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: Trial Wing Mounting... (Dale Ensing)
6. 06:54 AM - Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (David Maib)
7. 06:57 AM - Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (John Morgensen)
8. 08:18 AM - Re: Trial Wing Mounting... (Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc.)
9. 09:23 AM - Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ??? (Garey Wittich)
10. 09:28 AM - Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (George Inman 204 287 8334)
11. 09:47 AM - Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... (Tailgummer@aol.com)
12. 10:35 AM - Re: Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ??? (Bruce Gray)
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Subject: | Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
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Subject: | Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
Try these:
http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/store.asp?subsubcat_id=497&category=Nutplate+Rivets&breadCrumb=Nutplate+Rivets%20->%20Blind+Rivets%20->%20Rivets&menuID=149~150~150~151~151&id=152
You may have to reassemble the link.....
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe & Jan Connell <jconnell@fmwildblue.com>
>Sent: Jul 1, 2009 11:09 PM
>To: RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes...
>
>Guys,
>
>I'm trying to install several nut plates in a confined area. MK-319BS rivets
are too wide to fit through through the attachment holes in the nut plates despite
what I read in the A/C Spruce catalog.
>
>I have several small pop rivets from my Kitfox project about 16 years ago and
they will work. For the life of me I can't find any more like them. Any suggestions
and websites?
>
>Joe Connell
>Stewartville, MN
>RV-9A N95JJ
>
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Subject: | Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
tinyurl.com is a great help with links like this.
You can even create a toolbar "link" to make it easy to get the tinyurl.
Ron Lee
> http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/store.asp?subsubcat_id=497&category=Nutplate+Rivets&breadCrumb=Nutplate+Rivets%20->%20Blind+Rivets%20->%20Rivets&menuID=149~150~150~151~151&id=152
>
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Subject: | Re: Official RV-List Usage Guidelines |
this list is more active than the one you use
Matt Dralle wrote:
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Subject: | Re: Trial Wing Mounting... |
For fitting the wings on my 6A, I cut the heads off from the hardware store
bolts and put a slight taper/chamfer on the cut end. The cut end went into
the hole leaving the threaded end available for with drawing the bolts using
a nut and washers. Worked well.
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Birkelbach" <phil@petrasoft.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Trial Wing Mounting...
>
> It's not a problem. "Normal" bolts are a tad bit undersized by design.
> As another poster suggested, grind off the threads and put a nice chamfer
> on the end of it and don't be afraid of lubrication. You won't have any
> problems.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>> How hard is this going to be? Will I ever be able to get the bolts back
>> out again after I get them in?
>>
>> I've heard of people using hardware store bolts for trial fitting. Is
>> this a good idea?
>> Thanks for any insight you can lend.
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>> Finishing Up Right Wing Tip, Left Tip Done
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Subject: | Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
GAHCO carries nutplate rivets, I am pretty sure. Bon Aero at
www.bonaero.com also carries them. Can't remember the numbers, but
they are CCS-32 or something like that.
David Maib
40559
On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Joe & Jan Connell wrote:
Guys,
I'm trying to install several nut plates in a confined area.
MK-319BS rivets are too wide to fit through through the attachment
holes in the nut plates despite what I read in the A/C Spruce catalog.
I have several small pop rivets from my Kitfox project about 16 years
ago and they will work. For the life of me I can't find any more
like them. Any suggestions and websites?
Joe Connell
Stewartville, MN
RV-9A N95JJ
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Subject: | Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
The anti-virus software that I am using, ZoneAlarm, objects to the
tinyurl links because there is no way of knowing where the click will
take you. Aren't viruses fun?
john
Ron Lee wrote:
>
> tinyurl.com is a great help with links like this.
>
> You can even create a toolbar "link" to make it easy to get the tinyurl.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>> http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/store.asp?subsubcat_id=497&category=Nutplate+Rivets&breadCrumb=Nutplate+Rivets%20->%20Blind+Rivets%20->%20Rivets&menuID=149~150~150~151~151&id=152
>>
>>
>
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Subject: | Re: Trial Wing Mounting... |
Matt, This is how I mounted the wings on my RV9a, but this is just the
basics. Go with the hardware store bolts, install two in the top and
bottom on each wing, one of your helps moving the wing on the outside edge
will make it fairly easy to slide the bolts into place. It will take a
little coaxing. I think it's important to have 3 helpers for the project.
There is a ton of information on the list and internet regarding mounting
wings. You will need two of your bolts ground down on the end to use as
starter pins. Good luck.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
<rv7-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:12 PM
Subject: RV-List: Trial Wing Mounting...
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I'm planning on trial mounting the wings on the RV-8 this weekend. I want
> to get the flaps and ailerons rigged as well as get the rear spar drilled.
> Once that's done, however, I want to take the wings back off for storage.
>
> How hard is this going to be? Will I ever be able to get the bolts back
> out again after I get them in?
>
> I've heard of people using hardware store bolts for trial fitting. Is
> this a good idea?
>
> What's the minimum number of bolts I should put in to assure the wings
> will stay on unsupported and rigid enough to set the incidence?
>
> Realistically, how hard (and how much damage) will taking the bolts back
> out be?
>
> Thanks for any insight you can lend.
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> Finishing Up Right Wing Tip, Left Tip Done
>
>
>
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Subject: | Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ??? |
Greetings:Working by myself, the RV-8A QB Project is going too "slooowly".
-Local EAA Chapter here in Santa Monica, CA has no RV Builders or any at
the airport. -Looking for some assistance by an experienced RV Builder or
Builders Assistance Center here in Southern California to complete Project
- where we can work together ( here or at their location) thus speeding th
e Project along. -Want to work on the Project about 40 hours per week.
-Willing to pay a reasonable fee for the help. I have completed the Emhen
nage - now ready to start the Wings.-
Any helpful suggestions ??
Thanks, - Garey Wittich -Santa Monica, CA - (310) 392-1682=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
Guys,
I'm trying to install several nut plates in a confined area. MK-319BS
rivets are too wide to fit through through the attachment holes in the
nut plates despite what I read in the A/C Spruce catalog.
I have several small pop rivets from my Kitfox project about 16 years
ago and they will work. For the life of me I can't find any more like
them. Any suggestions and websites?
Joe Connell
Stewartville, MN
RV-9A N95JJ
Wicks has nuplates for this purpose
CCR264SS-3-5 $0.36
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=4459~subid'46/index.html
--
George H. Inman
ghinman@mts.net
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Subject: | Re: Need pop rivets to fit in #40 holes... |
Simple ... just drill out the nutplate mounting holes. 7/64 if memory
serves me.
John D
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Subject: | Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ??? |
Dave Saylor
http://www.aircraftersllc.com/
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Garey Wittich
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:18 PM
Subject: RV-List: Any Recommendations for Builders Assistance ???
Greetings:
Working by myself, the RV-8A QB Project is going too "slooowly". Local
EAA Chapter here in Santa Monica, CA has no RV Builders or any at the
airport. Looking for some assistance by an experienced RV Builder or
Builders Assistance Center here in Southern California to complete
Project - where we can work together ( here or at their location) thus
speeding the Project along. Want to work on the Project about 40 hours
per week. Willing to pay a reasonable fee for the help. I have
completed the Emhennage - now ready to start the Wings.
Any helpful suggestions ??
Thanks, Garey Wittich Santa Monica, CA (310) 392-1682
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