---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/19/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - TCW Technologies Promotion (Bob-tcw) 2. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: How To Accurately Measure Aileron Throws... (RICHARD MILLER) 3. 10:53 AM - Lean of Peak (Robin Marks) 4. 01:51 PM - Re: Lean of Peak (Jerry Springer) 5. 04:59 PM - Flap Skins Too Short? (Matt Dralle) 6. 05:39 PM - Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (scott bilinski) 7. 09:09 PM - Air conditioning stuff for sale (DEAN PSIROPOULOS) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:54 AM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: RV-List: TCW Technologies Promotion Fellow Builders, I wanted to let you know that TCW Technologies LLC in conjunction with Stein Air have starter our promotion called Super Buck-a-Builder. The promotion runs through Aug 10th, 2009. The details are available at http://www.tcwtech.com/Promotions_copy(1).htm Please visit us at Oshkosh, Hangar D, booth 4095 Thanks, Bob Newman TCW Technologies, LLC RV-10 40176 ( fiberglass paradise :) Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:04 AM PST US From: RICHARD MILLER Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: How To Accurately Measure Aileron Throws... the reason it does not list inches is it is referenced to the fuselage center line. rick --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc. wrote: > From: Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc. > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: How To Accurately Measure Aileron Throws... > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 5:34 AM > "Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc." > > Mark, Do you have the same travel down on your flaps > on both sides, left and right? > > Jim > RV9a Building > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:53 PM > Subject: RV-List: Re: How To Accurately Measure Aileron > Throws... > > > > At 08:48 AM 7/17/2009 Friday, Matt Dralle > wrote: > >> Dear Listers, > >> > >> The construction manual on my RV-8 says to set the > aileron throws to 25-32 degrees Up and 15-17 degrees > Down. But can't really see how you would accurately > measure that? Why doesn't it just list it in inches of > throw measured at the trailing edge? > >> > >> Additionally, 25 to 32 degrees is a pretty big > range. What do people recommend? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Matt Dralle > >> RV-8 #82880 N998RV > >> Wing To Fuselage Fairings... > > > > > > Once again, you guys really came though for me! > I can't believe I didn't think about using my digital > level!! Duh! As you can see from the attached > pictures, taping the level right to the aileron and flap > works great! The level has a "zeroing" function which > worked out perfect so that I didn't have to do any math in > my head (ouch). I've attached some pictures for future > archive reference. > > > > I haven't made the little aileron control stops > yet. I assume that since everything seems to be rigged > pretty close to perfect I can just place them such that at > my current 32 degrees of Up will hit the stop? Maybe > just a hair shy something like 31.5 or something? > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Matt Dralle > > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > > Wing To Fuselage Fairings... > > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:09 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Lean of Peak From: "Robin Marks" It looks like AOPA is all over LOP with a detailed article last month and now an online article & video. http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pilot/2009/july/frugal0907.html "the debate is over, the data is conclusive" quotes the video. Robin ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:18 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Lean of Peak For some of us that don't care to join AOPA that link is useless do not archive Robin Marks wrote: > > It looks like AOPA is all over LOP with a detailed article last month > and now an online article & video. > > http://www.aopa.org/members/files/pilot/2009/july/frugal0907.html > > the debate is over, the data is conclusive quotes the video. > > Robin > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:07 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Flap Skins Too Short? Dear Listers, Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8. I was going to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80. But, it appears that the aft portion of the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders. Note that the front part seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly. But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to continue the diagonal line. Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right there, this will act like a giant air scoop. The flaps appear to be mounted in the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons. The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture. Thoughts? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV FWF Is Right Around The Corner!! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:17 PM PST US From: scott bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Flap Skins Too Short? This picture opened fine..... This looks normal to me IIRC, geez its been 5.5 yrs flying now, just trim t o the fuse IIRC. I also recall that it is somewhat common for the flaps to fit differently to the fuse L or R side. Maybe this is not a problem with t he quick builds but in the "old" days I recall this isssue. Scott =0ARV-8a --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Matt Dralle wrote: From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Flap Skins Too Short? --- Dear Listers, Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8.- I was going to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage sk in per the "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80.- But, it appears that the aft portion of the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders.- Note that the front part seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly.- But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to continue the diagonal line.- Since the fuselag e side skin is curving up right there, this will act like a giant air scoop .- The flaps appear to be mounted in the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons. The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture .. Thoughts? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV FWF Is Right Around The Corner!!=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:27 PM PST US From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" Subject: RV-List: Air conditioning stuff for sale Don't know if any of you are contemplating an air conditioning system in your airplane or have an old R-12 system in your airplane (or car) that needs fixing but I may have what you need. Since I no longer own a vehicle that uses R-12 refrigerant I have seven 12 ounce cans available for sale at $35 dollars apiece (a repair shop now charges upwards of $100 a pound for R-12, if they can locate some). I also have an R-12 manifold gauge set (used to monitor the high and low pressures in an R-12 system while filling) and a tap for the R-12 cans ($35.00 for both of these). Let me know if you need any of these or, buy the whole ball of wax for $250.00. 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